Lisa Office System source code ?

2005-08-26 Thread Shirl
Hi Does anyone have Lisa Office System source listings? I'm trying to find the source listing to such programs as the Lisa Desktop Manager (Lisa Finder in Mac parlance) or any of the Lisa applications such as LisaWrite. Paper listings are fine. I just want to see how these programs were built

Re: Lisa Office System

2005-01-09 Thread Marcin Wichary
That sounds reasonable since Microsoft worked on both Lisa and Macintosh projects. I know Microsoft worked on a version of UNIX for the Lisa (Xenix) but believe it never released it due to the Lisa's short life span. I think I've seen copies floating around. As far as I know, Microsoft's GUI

Re: Lisa Office System and GUI

2005-01-09 Thread Marcin Wichary
And the following Lines are very interesting, cause Jef Raskin didn't agree with Bruce Horn's notes, so a very very very interesting discussion began and there you can read some remarkable facts, who cloned what (or even copied from whom) and then tried to tell the rest of the world that

Re: Lisa Office System and GUI

2005-01-09 Thread Shirl
the Lisa ads I have. I just moved to a new house and have not had time to do this scanning. Will do so by the next week. - David Craig -- From: macmoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LisaList lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: Lisa Office System and GUI Date: Sun, Jan 9, 2005, 2:31 AM Hi David

Re: Lisa Office System

2005-01-09 Thread Shirl
Marcin, I did not research IBM's GUI development in as much detail as I would love to, but I think it all happened later. First OS/2 1.1 with GUI (joint creation of Microsoft and IBM) was released as late as in 1988. My undrstanding is IBM investigated an icon-based GUI _before_ there was a

Re: Lisa Office System and GUI

2005-01-09 Thread Shirl
failed due to WIMP's hegemony in the computing world UI. - David Craig -- From: Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LisaList lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: Lisa Office System and GUI Date: Sun, Jan 9, 2005, 3:13 AM And the following Lines are very interesting, cause Jef Raskin

Re: Lisa Office System and GUI

2005-01-09 Thread Ray Arachelian
Shirl wrote: The only regret I have about this area is the WIMP (windows/icons/mouse pointer) interface is still around. There must be something better than this. I know efforts have been made to develop the WIMP successor, but these seemed to have failed due to WIMP's hegemony in the computing

Re: Lisa Office System

2005-01-09 Thread Marcin Wichary
My undrstanding is IBM investigated an icon-based GUI _before_ there was a Lisa or Macintosh. This interface was called DATALAND. The Lisa GUI history paper by Perkins talks about this a bit. I think you mean PictureWorld... (Dataland was the one from M.I.T.) True, this one was from 1980,

Lisa Office System versions.

2005-01-08 Thread Marcin Wichary
How many versions of Lisa Office System were released? I've been able to come up with this list: - 1.0 (c) 1983 - 1.2 (c) 1983 - 2.0 (c) 1983 - 3.0 (c) 1983, 1984 - 3.1 (c) 1983, 1984 If you know of some other versions, or have more specific launch dates for those above... please, drop me

Re: Lisa Office System versions.

2005-01-08 Thread Stuart Bell
On 8 Jan 2005, at 14:07, Marcin Wichary wrote: It wasn't my intention to originally ask for copies of software, just for information. Not sure if the former is even allowed on this list -- however, since Lisa software is 20++ years old, I personally think of it now in terms of preservation,

Lisa Office System

2005-01-08 Thread macmoni
Wichary: How many versions of Lisa Office System were released? I've been able to come up with this list: -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList

Re: Lisa Office System

2005-01-08 Thread Shirl
of Apple for beta testing purposes. I was never involved with this testing but know of several people who were. This included the Lisa Office System, Lisa Workshop (the development system for the Lisa), and the Lisa-to-Macintosh Migration Kit. wrote, that even Micro[soft] Billy got a Lisa from