How many working Widgets?

[sauersr]

I'm curious. How many people have working Widgets? Did they require major
assistance, like low-level formatting, or some sort of surgery?

I bought a new Widget years ago from a company and sold it on Ebay because
I have a Lisa 2/5 with a working ProFile and couldn't attach it. I don't
know if the Widget worked or not (which is something that was clear on the
auction page). The company was a Lisa parts dealer and they said it hadn't
been used.

It seems that the ProFile is a much more reliable drive. Is it because the
Widget has some type of variable rotation speed, like the Twiggy?


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Re: How many working Widgets?

[Steve Hatle]

My Widget works. I've had the machine for 15 years.

My Profiles are toast, however

Steve


On 11/4/05 3:24 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm curious. How many people have working Widgets? Did they require major
> assistance, like low-level formatting, or some sort of surgery?



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Re: How many working Widgets?

[Chris Riedl]

   My Lisa 2/10 came as it is (just got it from a previous owner, who got 
it from a garage sale I think), and the P.O. said that the drive would 
occasionally work, but it was having trouble.  I actually suspect that my 
Widget is mechanically sound, but one of the controller boards has an issue. 
It usually will not talk to the Lisa, and its presence isn't announced at 
all, vs the normal problems which normally give an error every time.


-Chris
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I'm curious. How many people have working Widgets? Did they require major
assistance, like low-level formatting, or some sort of surgery?

I bought a new Widget years ago from a company and sold it on Ebay because
I have a Lisa 2/5 with a working ProFile and couldn't attach it. I don't
know if the Widget worked or not (which is something that was clear on the
auction page). The company was a Lisa parts dealer and they said it hadn't
been used.

It seems that the ProFile is a much more reliable drive. Is it because the
Widget has some type of variable rotation speed, like the Twiggy?


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Re: How many working Widgets?

[Dr. Helmut Post]

No, the Widget doesn't have a variable rotational speed ( 3600 RPM constant
speed +-3%)- it uses the same GCR (group code recording) as known from other
Apple mass storage devices.
The problem with the widget is the doubled track density- the Widget uses
only one platter/2 surfaces/ 612 tracks/17 sectors/ 532 Bytes per sector.
the 10 MB Profile with a Seagate ST 412 HDU has 2 platters/4 surfaces/306
tracks/17 sectors/ 532 Bytes/sector.
The higher track density of the Widget was only possible with a new
developed voice coil actuator using a DTF (dynamic track following) system
with an optical servo. This was one of the first hard disks using a voice
coil actuator.
The Profile uses a stepper actuator without a DTF system.
I have made the experience that the 5 MB Profile (Seagate ST 506 DU) is much
more reliable than the 10 MB Profile- thanks to the half track density (153
tracks instead of 306)
Most of these old 10 MB Profiles can be repaired by a simple low level
format.








on 04.11.2005 23:24 Uhr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> It seems that the ProFile is a much more reliable drive. Is it because the
> Widget has some type of variable rotation speed, like the Twiggy?


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Re: How many working Widgets?

[Mike]

My Lisa 2/10 has a dead Widget, it really wants to work...but just 
doesn't quite get there (Error 85)


I have high hopes for my SCSI card and drive though !
Mike


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I'm curious. How many people have working Widgets? Did they require major
assistance, like low-level formatting, or some sort of surgery?

I bought a new Widget years ago from a company and sold it on Ebay because
I have a Lisa 2/5 with a working ProFile and couldn't attach it. I don't
know if the Widget worked or not (which is something that was clear on the
auction page). The company was a Lisa parts dealer and they said it hadn't
been used.

It seems that the ProFile is a much more reliable drive. Is it because the
Widget has some type of variable rotation speed, like the Twiggy?


 




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