Re: [lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp-alt

2011-09-13 Thread Jari Arkko
Vince, Dino, I wrote: I'd still like to understand the ICMP message situation better. I realize that the traffic is supposed to be unidirectional, but how would, say, lower MTU somewhere along the path be dealt with? I'm not necessarily asking for a change in what the spec does, but it should

[lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-list-ms

2011-09-14 Thread Jari Arkko
I have reviewed this specification. I think it is ready to move forward, and I have sent it to IETF Last Call. I did see a couple of minor editorial issues, however (see below). You may fix those either by issuing a new draft or wait until further issues are brought up in directorate or other

Re: [lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp-alt

2011-09-19 Thread Jari Arkko
Vince, I'm looking at the Map-Request message format and cannot quite convince myself that there would never be a situation where MTU would be exceeded. 99.999% of the time it would be fine, but I think we need to describe (if not fix) what happens when its not. How about adding the following

Re: [lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp-alt

2011-09-19 Thread Jari Arkko
Yes, this text is great. Thank you. Put it in the draft and lets move forward. Jari ___ lisp mailing list lisp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp

[lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp (part 1)

2011-09-30 Thread Jari Arkko
I am reviewing this draft. Here's the first part of my review. So far I like what I've seen, but there are a few small observations below. I'm at the beginning of Section 4, and will continue tomorrow with the rest. Technical: 2. Introduction I liked how this section was written. I would

[lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp (part 2)

2011-10-03 Thread Jari Arkko
Continuing with my review. Many of the observations below are questions. I may understand most of these better once I finish the whole document, but I wanted to send out my notes already now. Technical: o End-systems (hosts) only send to addresses which are EIDs. They don't know

[lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp (part 7)

2011-10-22 Thread Jari Arkko
This is the last part of my review, as far as the actual document contents go. I will send another summary e-mail. Technical: 14.1. LISP Address Type Codes Instance ID type codes have a range from 0 to 15, of which 0 and 1 have been allocated [LCAF]. New Type Codes MUST be allocated

Re: [lisp] draft-ietf-lisp-15 review

2011-10-23 Thread Jari Arkko
Yes, but setting up the entire system so that this works would be challenging (how names resolve to addresses, how applications know about this, etc). But it probably doesn't matter, it is of course true that it could be done. My point was that this is probably not the usual configuration, and

Re: [lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp (part 2)

2011-10-27 Thread Jari Arkko
, and given that this is experimental, it seems sufficient to leave the text the way it is. Yours, Joel On 10/27/2011 1:04 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote: On Oct 23, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: ... Second, I wish you would have specified the source address checks better. Are there situations

Re: [lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp (part 6)

2011-10-30 Thread Jari Arkko
Dino, Technical: Overall, the security considerations section is a bit thin. I don't think we need a lot of additional text, but there are some additional pieces of information that need to be added. Some suggested text below. The nonce, coupled with the ITR accepting only solicited

Re: [lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp (part 6)

2011-10-30 Thread Jari Arkko
Dino, It is a good idea to have instrumentation in place to detect thrashing of the cache. Implementation experimentation will be used to determine which cache management strategies work best. Yes, but I think we should also acknowledge that defending against cache trashing attacks is

Re: [lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp (part 7)

2011-10-31 Thread Jari Arkko
Iana sect looks good (but i will review lcaf parts in another email). One nit though: Sect 14, change ietf consensus to ietf review. The term changed in rfc 5226. Jari Dino Farinacci d...@cisco.com wrote: I'm not sure if we have seen a response, but I also don't think it is hard to develop

Re: [lisp] LISP (re-)Charter discussion

2011-10-31 Thread Jari Arkko
Yakov, Furthermore, as John Scudder asked in his e-mail on 9/28, the base spec calls out a number of areas that require more experimentation. A simple grep will find these. These experiments and what has been learned from them should be documented. The same applies if other specs have similar

[lisp] FW: next steps on draft-ietf-lisp

2011-12-01 Thread Jari Arkko
Copying the WG list as well on the results of the IESG review of draft-ietf-lisp: We discussed this draft on our IESG call tonight. The draft (as well as other Lisp drafts) has been very carefully reviewed by everyone on the IESG, and I think the feedback is useful. Of course there are

[lisp] new charter

2011-12-20 Thread Jari Arkko
Internet Area Directors: Ralph Droms rdroms.i...@gmail.com Jari Arkko jari.ar...@piuha.net Internet Area Advisor: Jari Arkko jari.ar...@piuha.net Secretaries: Wassim Haddad wassim.had...@ericsson.com Luigi Iannone lu...@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de Mailing Lists

[lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp-interworking

2012-01-02 Thread Jari Arkko
I have reviewed this document. In general, it is well written and almost ready to go forward. There are a couple of areas that need further text, however. The main issue is a clear description of the to-experiment and problematic areas of LISP interworking. (Making those is also needed in

Re: [lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp-interworking

2012-01-19 Thread Jari Arkko
Was there a response on this, and a new document version, or did I miss something? I'd like to take this document forward but we need those changes first. I realize that you have many documents still in the IESG discussion, but part of the criticism that we've gotten in IESG review is that

Re: [lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp-interworking

2012-02-06 Thread Jari Arkko
On 03.02.2012 20:21, Darrel Lewis wrote: Jari, Sorry for taking so long to respond to your review. Please find suggested text below as well as a proposed -03 draft attached. On Jan 2, 2012, at 1:27 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: I have reviewed this document. In general, it is well written

Re: [lisp] AD review of draft-ietf-lisp-interworking

2012-02-06 Thread Jari Arkko
That also works for me. Jari On 03.02.2012 22:14, Joel M. Halpern wrote: Removing option 1 would solve my concern very nicely. Thanks. Joel On 2/3/2012 3:10 PM, Darrel Lewis wrote: On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: I am a bit concerned that the description of the cases

Re: [lisp] base specification, working group charter

2012-02-14 Thread Jari Arkko
On 15.02.2012 00:48, Dino Farinacci wrote: I have some news for you. The LISP base specification has just been approved yesterday, joining the three other documents from this working group that had already been approved earlier. We'll be working with the remaining two in the coming weeks. I

Re: [lisp] WG Review: Recharter of Locator/ID Separation Protocol (lisp)

2012-02-17 Thread Jari Arkko
On 15.02.2012 23:31, Thomas Narten wrote: A WG Review message for this WG already went out a month ago. What has changed to necessitate another Last Call? Could the-powers-that-be please make it easier for those who might care to understand if there is something here that we should know and

Re: [lisp] WG Review: Recharter of Locator/ID Separation Protocol (lisp)

2012-03-08 Thread Jari Arkko
I hear what you are saying. But I think the opinion in the IESG at least was, however, that those three really are high priority, and that other documents before them are not so useful before they are completed. I guess it is a different perspective, whether you do things top-down or

Re: [lisp] [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-ietf-lisp-introduction-11

2015-03-06 Thread Jari Arkko
Thanks for your review, Alexey! On 11 Feb 2015, at 13:55, Alexey Melnikov alexey.melni...@isode.com wrote: I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq. Please resolve these

Re: [lisp] Jari Arkko's Block on charter-ietf-lisp-03-00: (with BLOCK)

2016-02-03 Thread Jari Arkko
Joel, > There have beeen some comments that we should make clearer that the top > priority (although not preventing the WG from working on other topics) is > moving the needed core documents from Experimental to PS. That change is one > we can and should make. That is ok. > Beyond that, I

[lisp] Jari Arkko's No Objection on charter-ietf-lisp-03-01: (with COMMENT)

2016-04-06 Thread Jari Arkko
Jari Arkko has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-lisp-03-01: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along

[lisp] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-lisp-ddt-08: (with DISCUSS)

2016-10-27 Thread Jari Arkko
Jari Arkko has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lisp-ddt-08: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https

Re: [lisp] [Gen-art] Gen-ART Review for draft-ietf-lisp-crypto-09

2016-10-13 Thread Jari Arkko
Many thanks for your review, Pete. I have balloted no-objection for this document in today’s IESG telechat. Authors, please note Pete’s editorial suggestion. Jari signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ lisp mailing

[lisp] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2016-10-13 Thread Jari Arkko
Jari Arkko has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-17: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https