Re: [pfSense] Configs or hardware?

2018-02-19 Thread Eero Volotinen
Maybe. I think that hardware can still do full gigabit nat and firewalling.

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On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Moshe Katz  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Paul Mather 
> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 19, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Eero Volotinen 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Well. Does it require so much power, that I cannot run it on intel
> core2
> > > quad Q9400, 2.66Ghz processor (4 cores) ?
> >
> >
> > What a curious question.  It does not require "so much power" but it does
> > require a minimum hardware spec, which that CPU will lack (no AESNI).
> >
> > I can understand why people would be unhappy that their hardware becomes
> > unsupported by a new release, but I also understand it's common in the
> > computing industry and makes a lot of sense for Netgate to do this
> (reduced
> > support costs; increased developer focus; etc.).  It's nice, also,
> they've
> > laid out a roadmap for doing this and telegraphed clearly how they plan
> to
> > support older hardware and for how long.  It's not like they just decided
> > yesterday over a couple of pints at the pub to throw everyone without
> > AESNI-capable CPUs under the bus right now.
> >
> > I still have a CF NanoBSD-based pfSense installation running on Netgate
> > hardware, and I appreciate they are still supporting 2.3, giving people
> > like me time to migrate off to something else.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Paul.
>
>
> It's also worth mentioning that the Q9400 is turning 10 years old this
> year.
>
> I am a very enthusiastic proponent of reusing old computer hardware instead
> of throwing it away, but there still comes a point in time at which it's
> time to move on, and ten years is a very long life for commodity computing
> hardware.
>
> Moshe
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Re: [pfSense] Configs or hardware?

2018-02-19 Thread Moshe Katz
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Paul Mather 
wrote:

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Eero Volotinen 
> wrote:
>
> > Well. Does it require so much power, that I cannot run it on intel core2
> > quad Q9400, 2.66Ghz processor (4 cores) ?
>
>
> What a curious question.  It does not require "so much power" but it does
> require a minimum hardware spec, which that CPU will lack (no AESNI).
>
> I can understand why people would be unhappy that their hardware becomes
> unsupported by a new release, but I also understand it's common in the
> computing industry and makes a lot of sense for Netgate to do this (reduced
> support costs; increased developer focus; etc.).  It's nice, also, they've
> laid out a roadmap for doing this and telegraphed clearly how they plan to
> support older hardware and for how long.  It's not like they just decided
> yesterday over a couple of pints at the pub to throw everyone without
> AESNI-capable CPUs under the bus right now.
>
> I still have a CF NanoBSD-based pfSense installation running on Netgate
> hardware, and I appreciate they are still supporting 2.3, giving people
> like me time to migrate off to something else.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.


It's also worth mentioning that the Q9400 is turning 10 years old this year.

I am a very enthusiastic proponent of reusing old computer hardware instead
of throwing it away, but there still comes a point in time at which it's
time to move on, and ten years is a very long life for commodity computing
hardware.

Moshe

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Re: [pfSense] Configs or hardware?

2018-02-19 Thread Paul Mather
On Feb 19, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Eero Volotinen  wrote:

> Well. Does it require so much power, that I cannot run it on intel core2
> quad Q9400, 2.66Ghz processor (4 cores) ?


What a curious question.  It does not require "so much power" but it does 
require a minimum hardware spec, which that CPU will lack (no AESNI).

I can understand why people would be unhappy that their hardware becomes 
unsupported by a new release, but I also understand it's common in the 
computing industry and makes a lot of sense for Netgate to do this (reduced 
support costs; increased developer focus; etc.).  It's nice, also, they've laid 
out a roadmap for doing this and telegraphed clearly how they plan to support 
older hardware and for how long.  It's not like they just decided yesterday 
over a couple of pints at the pub to throw everyone without AESNI-capable CPUs 
under the bus right now.

I still have a CF NanoBSD-based pfSense installation running on Netgate 
hardware, and I appreciate they are still supporting 2.3, giving people like me 
time to migrate off to something else.

Cheers,

Paul.

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Re: [pfSense] pfsense on watchguard xtm 810?

2018-02-19 Thread Eero Volotinen
Thanks. that worked. It was a bit hard without console :)

Eero

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Melvin  wrote:

> I've had good luck in similar cases by installing on a generic machine
> then putting the media in the target box.
>
> On Feb 16, 2018, 13:40, at 13:40, Eero Volotinen 
> wrote:
> >Hi List,
> >
> >I need to install pfsense 2.4 on watchguard xtm 810. there is issue as
> >it
> >does not boot from usb stick, only from cf or sata.
> >
> >Any idea how to install pfsense on it? it works with 2.3 nano-vga
> >image,
> >but such is not available for pfsense 2.4
> >
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