Re: [pfSense] support costs?

2015-01-06 Thread Vick Khera
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Rick Payton r...@mai-hawaii.com wrote:

 Is there a direct e-mail address I can hit at either Netgate or ESF to
 discuss cost and what's included, or is it ok to discuss it here?


For using pfSense there are no mandatory support costs. It is free open
source software. However, unless you have the expertise, I would recommend
highly to get the support from one of the vendors who develop the project.
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Re: [pfSense] 32 or 64?

2015-01-06 Thread Paul Mather
On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Márcio Merlone marcio.merl...@a1.ind.br wrote:

 Happy 2015 for all!
 
 I am planning to replace some Linksys boxes on remote offices with a virtual 
 pfSense in the next months and was wondering  what's recommended for a new 
 install today: 32 or 64 bits? I ask considering what's best for the mid-long 
 term, are there any 64bit-only features now or planned? Will I loose 
 something running a 32 bit version now or a few years from now?
 
 What are the advantages/disadvantages of each now and what is expected for a 
 near future? I am not asking for an in-depth analysis, but rather a general 
 overview and opinion of the main diffs.


I would recommend using a 64-bit version unless you can't.

pfSense is based on FreeBSD, and, it's fair to say, development and 
installed user base is focused more on FreeBSD/amd64 than FreeBSD/i386.

There has also been talk of of using ZFS in future pfSense, e.g., for 
boot environments and rollbacks on updates, and I would not recommend 
using ZFS on FreeBSD/i386; it's far better on FreeBSD/amd64.

Cheers,

Paul.

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Re: [pfSense] 32 or 64?

2015-01-06 Thread Robert Pickett
Is there an easy way to convert from 32bit to 64bit? preferably without
reinstalling.

-Robert

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Subject: Re: [pfSense] 32 or 64?

On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Márcio Merlone marcio.merl...@a1.ind.br
wrote:

 Happy 2015 for all!
 
 I am planning to replace some Linksys boxes on remote offices with a
virtual pfSense in the next months and was wondering  what's recommended for
a new install today: 32 or 64 bits? I ask considering what's best for the
mid-long term, are there any 64bit-only features now or planned? Will I
loose something running a 32 bit version now or a few years from now?
 
 What are the advantages/disadvantages of each now and what is expected for
a near future? I am not asking for an in-depth analysis, but rather a
general overview and opinion of the main diffs.


I would recommend using a 64-bit version unless you can't.

pfSense is based on FreeBSD, and, it's fair to say, development and
installed user base is focused more on FreeBSD/amd64 than FreeBSD/i386.

There has also been talk of of using ZFS in future pfSense, e.g., for boot
environments and rollbacks on updates, and I would not recommend using ZFS
on FreeBSD/i386; it's far better on FreeBSD/amd64.

Cheers,

Paul.

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Re: [pfSense] 32 or 64?

2015-01-06 Thread Chris Buechler
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Robert Pickett wcktk...@wcktklwn.net wrote:
 Is there an easy way to convert from 32bit to 64bit? preferably without
 reinstalling.

https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Upgrade_Guide#Changing_architecture_.2832-bit_to_64-bit_or_vice_versa.29_during_upgrade
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Re: [pfSense] support costs?

2015-01-06 Thread Rick Payton
I’m recommending pfSense (and hardware from netgate) for a job that I’ll be 
very hands off of. The people that will be doing the work, I have no idea what 
skillset they’ll be bringing to the table, so I wanted to be sure there was an 
official paid support channel they could access. I personally use pfSense for 
work and home, and fairly comfortable with it, hence why I’m recommending it 
over other stuff. It’s well worth the money IMHO.

Rick Payton, I.T. Manager
Morikawa  Associates, LLC
(808) 572-1745 Office
(808) 442-0978 eFax
(808) 344-8249 Mobile
www.mai-hawaii.comhttp://www.mai-hawaii.com

From: List [mailto:list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org] On Behalf Of Vick Khera
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:15 AM
To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List
Subject: Re: [pfSense] support costs?


On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Rick Payton 
r...@mai-hawaii.commailto:r...@mai-hawaii.com wrote:
Is there a direct e-mail address I can hit at either Netgate or ESF to discuss 
cost and what's included, or is it ok to discuss it here?

For using pfSense there are no mandatory support costs. It is free open source 
software. However, unless you have the expertise, I would recommend highly to 
get the support from one of the vendors who develop the project.
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[pfSense] Prioritize VoIP in MultiWAN

2015-01-06 Thread Kostas Backas
Hello,

Any issues-advice for prioritize VoIP in multiWAN (3 WANs-variable speed)? I 
have group gateways for load balancing and failover and policy routing” by 
setting specific IPs WAN routing.

Best regards

Kostas
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Re: [pfSense] 32 or 64?

2015-01-06 Thread Renato Botelho
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 16:11, Jim Pingle li...@pingle.org wrote:
 
 On 01/06/2015 12:57 PM, Márcio Merlone wrote:
 I am planning to replace some Linksys boxes on remote offices with a
 virtual pfSense in the next months and was wondering  what's recommended
 for a new install today: 32 or 64 bits? I ask considering what's best
 for the mid-long term, are there any 64bit-only features now or planned?
 Will I loose something running a 32 bit version now or a few years from now?
 
 What are the advantages/disadvantages of each now and what is expected
 for a near future? I am not asking for an in-depth analysis, but rather
 a general overview and opinion of the main diffs.
 
 If the hardware can run 64-bit, use 64-bit. If the hardware can't run
 64-bit, don't buy it. :-)

+1

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Re: [pfSense] 32 or 64?

2015-01-06 Thread Jim Pingle
On 01/06/2015 04:08 PM, Jeppe Øland wrote:
 https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Upgrade_Guide#Changing_architecture_.2832-bit_to_64-bit_or_vice_versa.29_during_upgrade
 
 From that link:
 Upgrading from 32-bit to 64-bit mostly works fine with a couple caveats - the
 32-bit RRD data is invalid on the 64-bit version and will have to be deleted 
 by
 running rm -rf /var/db/rrd*. All RRD history will be lost, this cannot be 
 converted.
 
 That is only partially true, but you will have to do it manually...
 Before backup/upgrade/restore, convert your RRD files to XML and store
 them on another machine.

Read the next paragraph below the one you quoted. :-)

It does precisely that provided you start with pfSense 2.1.x.

What doesn't work is a 2.0.x backup w/RRD 32-bit to 2.1 64-bit.

Jim

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Re: [pfSense] 32 or 64?

2015-01-06 Thread Jeppe Øland
 That is only partially true, but you will have to do it manually...
 Before backup/upgrade/restore, convert your RRD files to XML and store
 them on another machine.

 Read the next paragraph below the one you quoted. :-)

Apparently I'm blind!
Awesome that this is already in place!

 It does precisely that provided you start with pfSense 2.1.x.
 What doesn't work is a 2.0.x backup w/RRD 32-bit to 2.1 64-bit.

Ah that makes sense.
The last time I had to do the manual conversion was from way before 2.1 days.
I guess the RRD backup in 2.0 (and earlier) was just the raw
platform-dependent files...

Regards,
-Jeppe
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Re: [pfSense] 32 or 64?

2015-01-06 Thread Jeppe Øland
 https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Upgrade_Guide#Changing_architecture_.2832-bit_to_64-bit_or_vice_versa.29_during_upgrade

From that link:
 Upgrading from 32-bit to 64-bit mostly works fine with a couple caveats - the
 32-bit RRD data is invalid on the 64-bit version and will have to be deleted 
 by
 running rm -rf /var/db/rrd*. All RRD history will be lost, this cannot be 
 converted.

That is only partially true, but you will have to do it manually...
Before backup/upgrade/restore, convert your RRD files to XML and store
them on another machine.
Then after the new machine is running, convert/replace the XML files
to the new installation.

Somebody detailed it here: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=49955.0

rrdtool is actually installed on pfSense itself, so you don't need
any additional machines if you don't mind ssh'ing to pfSense and doing
it there.

Actually, I guess it would be nice to have an option to make a backup
of the pfSense configurations, with RRD data stored as an XML blob.
It should probably come with a warning that the backup will be
significantly larger, but that it's useful when changing
architectures.
This might also be useful in the future if ARM/MIPS platforms become
more commonplace...

Regards,
-Jeppe
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[pfSense] 32 or 64?

2015-01-06 Thread Márcio Merlone

Happy 2015 for all!

I am planning to replace some Linksys boxes on remote offices with a 
virtual pfSense in the next months and was wondering  what's recommended 
for a new install today: 32 or 64 bits? I ask considering what's best 
for the mid-long term, are there any 64bit-only features now or planned? 
Will I loose something running a 32 bit version now or a few years from now?


What are the advantages/disadvantages of each now and what is expected 
for a near future? I am not asking for an in-depth analysis, but rather 
a general overview and opinion of the main diffs.


Thanks and best regards.

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Re: [pfSense] 32 or 64?

2015-01-06 Thread Thiago Coutinho
The only problem I see in long term is that they can drop the x86
development/support and focus on x86_64 only.

2015-01-06 15:57 GMT-02:00 Márcio Merlone marcio.merl...@a1.ind.br:

  Happy 2015 for all!

 I am planning to replace some Linksys boxes on remote offices with a
 virtual pfSense in the next months and was wondering  what's recommended
 for a new install today: 32 or 64 bits? I ask considering what's best for
 the mid-long term, are there any 64bit-only features now or planned? Will I
 loose something running a 32 bit version now or a few years from now?

 What are the advantages/disadvantages of each now and what is expected for
 a near future? I am not asking for an in-depth analysis, but rather a
 general overview and opinion of the main diffs.

 Thanks and best regards.

 --
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Re: [pfSense] 32 or 64?

2015-01-06 Thread Jim Pingle
On 01/06/2015 12:57 PM, Márcio Merlone wrote:
 I am planning to replace some Linksys boxes on remote offices with a
 virtual pfSense in the next months and was wondering  what's recommended
 for a new install today: 32 or 64 bits? I ask considering what's best
 for the mid-long term, are there any 64bit-only features now or planned?
 Will I loose something running a 32 bit version now or a few years from now?
 
 What are the advantages/disadvantages of each now and what is expected
 for a near future? I am not asking for an in-depth analysis, but rather
 a general overview and opinion of the main diffs.

If the hardware can run 64-bit, use 64-bit. If the hardware can't run
64-bit, don't buy it. :-)

https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Is_32-bit_or_64-bit_pfSense_Preferred
https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Does_pfSense_support_64_bit_systems

Jim
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