Re: [pfSense] NetFlow analysis tools

2015-01-19 Thread b...@todoo.biz

> Le 18 janv. 2015 à 16:22, Larry Sampas  a écrit :
> 
> I haven't played with many GUI tools other than FlowBAT, which is very new, 
> but I have been using SiLK at scale for some time now, and it's been very 
> stable.
> 
> Since we run securityonion, I've been using these instructions for installing 
> SiLK/Yaf and configuring rwflowpack:
> http://www.appliednsm.com/silk-on-security-onion/  (With the latest code 
> version from CERT)
> 
> it also works for collecting Netflow data if you listen on the right ports.
> 
> I'm definitely going to look at FlowViewer as an alternative to our plan of 
> getting the SiLK flow records into R and using a chart package. While GUI 
> tools are great, the command-line SiLK tools work very well if you want to 
> know exactly which IPs a host has contacted, at what times, on which ports, 
> and how much data was sent/received. 
> 
> --Larry

I would like to thank all the persons which have been answering this question. 

Thanks for your support, if we come with a bright idea regarding NetFlow 
analysis tools, I’ll let everyone know ! 



Sincerely yours. 


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Re: [pfSense] NetFlow analysis tools

2015-01-18 Thread Larry Sampas
I haven't played with many GUI tools other than FlowBAT, which is very new,
but I have been using SiLK at scale for some time now, and it's been very
stable.

Since we run securityonion, I've been using these instructions for
installing SiLK/Yaf and configuring rwflowpack:
http://www.appliednsm.com/silk-on-security-onion/  (With the latest code
version from CERT)

it also works for collecting Netflow data if you listen on the right ports.

I'm definitely going to look at FlowViewer as an alternative to our plan of
getting the SiLK flow records into R and using a chart package. While GUI
tools are great, the command-line SiLK tools work very well if you want to
know exactly which IPs a host has contacted, at what times, on which ports,
and how much data was sent/received.

--Larry

On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 5:27 AM, Mathieu Simon (Lists) <
matsimon.li...@simweb.ch> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Am 15.01.2015 um 17:08 schrieb b...@todoo.biz:
>
> > I am particularly interested in GUI back-end.
> For a students project on the Uni's HPC cluster co-students and I were
> also looking at first for such a tool and stumbled on FlowViewer used
> and largely developed at NASA ESDIS:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/flowviewer/
>
> FlowViewer was a beast to compile from source, but we made it run and it
> look pretty good including graphs and had quite some documentation. Its
> collector side supports NetFlow 5, 9 and IPFIX. Back then when we looked
> at it looked promising but too big for our needs of a 1-semester
> project. If it would have been for a serious deployment, we may have
> ended up with that.
>
> Because of our tight schedule and the excellent examples found in
> 'Network Flow Analysis' from the known BSD author Michael W. Lucas we
> ended up filtering our NetFlow 5 data using good ol' flow-tools and
> plotting data with gnuplot for our final report.
>
> -- Mathieu
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Re: [pfSense] NetFlow analysis tools

2015-01-17 Thread Mathieu Simon (Lists)
Hi

Am 15.01.2015 um 17:08 schrieb b...@todoo.biz:

> I am particularly interested in GUI back-end. 
For a students project on the Uni's HPC cluster co-students and I were
also looking at first for such a tool and stumbled on FlowViewer used
and largely developed at NASA ESDIS:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/flowviewer/

FlowViewer was a beast to compile from source, but we made it run and it
look pretty good including graphs and had quite some documentation. Its
collector side supports NetFlow 5, 9 and IPFIX. Back then when we looked
at it looked promising but too big for our needs of a 1-semester
project. If it would have been for a serious deployment, we may have
ended up with that.

Because of our tight schedule and the excellent examples found in
'Network Flow Analysis' from the known BSD author Michael W. Lucas we
ended up filtering our NetFlow 5 data using good ol' flow-tools and
plotting data with gnuplot for our final report.

-- Mathieu

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Re: [pfSense] NetFlow analysis tools

2015-01-16 Thread Jon Gerdes
On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 17:08 +0100, b...@todoo.biz wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> I would like to know which flow-tools you are using in conjunction with 
> pfflowd / netflow 
> 
> I am particularly interested in GUI back-end. 
> 
> If you have any good pointer, that would really be helpful. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely yours. 

Softflowd -> Logstash receiver -> Redis -> Logstash indexer ->
Elasticsearch -> Kibana

Logstash has a Netflow input and then I use the GeoIP and DNS filters to
augment the data, finally in Kibana I plot the flows on a map from the
GeoIP.  That single report has told me an awful lot.

For example someone came to our office and had a SSL VPN of some sort,
they also use an external web proxy.  Before they fired up the VPN their
flows were going through European IPs.  As soon as the VPN was started,
their 443/tcp flows instantly switched to the US.  When the VPN was shut
down it moved back to Europe.  Coincidence - perhaps.  I couldn't do
much more testing in the time available.

Cheers
Jon


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Re: [pfSense] NetFlow analysis tools

2015-01-15 Thread Giles Coochey

On 15/01/2015 18:37, Kurt Buff wrote:

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:08 AM, b...@todoo.biz  wrote:

Hello,

I would like to know which flow-tools you are using in conjunction with pfflowd 
/ netflow

I am particularly interested in GUI back-end.

If you have any good pointer, that would really be helpful.



I'm using NFSEN http://nfsen.sourceforge.net/


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Re: [pfSense] NetFlow analysis tools

2015-01-15 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:08 AM, b...@todoo.biz  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know which flow-tools you are using in conjunction with 
> pfflowd / netflow
>
> I am particularly interested in GUI back-end.
>
> If you have any good pointer, that would really be helpful.

o- ntop on *nix
o- perhaps PRTG - a commercial Windows app


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[pfSense] NetFlow analysis tools

2015-01-15 Thread b...@todoo.biz
Hello, 

I would like to know which flow-tools you are using in conjunction with pfflowd 
/ netflow 

I am particularly interested in GUI back-end. 

If you have any good pointer, that would really be helpful. 



Sincerely yours. 



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