Re: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...

2014-05-17 Thread Espen Johansen
Tell your provider to do what mojo said. Or set it up yourself if you have
access to the provider routers. Third option is VPN between the pfsense
boxes so you can override the routing.
17. mai 2014 21:53 skrev "Klaus Wunder"  følgende:

> Hello,
>
> you can use pfSense as a BGP
> Router. There is a paket you can install.
>
> Also you can ask your ISP about the use of the Dynamic Routing Protokoll.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Klaus
>
> Am 17.05.2014 um 20:14 schrieb "J. Echter" <
> j.ech...@echter-kuechen-elektro.de>:
>
> Am 17.05.2014 08:25, schrieb faisal.gill...@akesp.org:
>
>  Thank you for replying MoJo ..
> So you recommend me removing pfsense acting as static routes router with
> real hardware routers ? Or ur asking me to add dynamic routing
> functionality to pfsense ?
>
>  Thanks
> Faisal
>
>
>  Sent from my HTC
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "mOjO"  
> To: "pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List" 
> ,
> "dragonator"  
> Subject: [pfSense]Gateway on a gateway...
> Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 10:07 AM
>
> On the pfSense firewall?  Nothing.
> You need to change your routers.
> Ideally, your MPLS routers are using BGP.  Then on the site 1 router under
> the BGP section you can tell it to advertise the 0.0.0.0 route by adding
> "network 0.0.0.0" and make sure you have a static route on that router for
> 0.0.0.0 to the firewall. Site 2 should then use the MPLS router as their
> default gateway instead of the firewall.  As an added bonus you can have
> site 2 failover to their local internet when the MPLS is down by adding a
> lower metric (255) default route that will kick in when the BGP advertised
> route disappears when the MPLS goes down.
>
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "faisal.gill...@akesp.org" 
>  
> To: "dragonator" ,
>  
> Subject: [pfSense]Gateway on a gateway...
> Date: Fri, May 16, 2014 11:27 PM
>
>  When i try to do this .. Pfsense gives me error that firewall is not
> local to my subnet which is ..
> 172.16.1.16 on subnet 255.255.248.0
> Branch router is on 172.16.11.0/24 which connects to firewall subnet via
> MPLS provider router i.e 10.152.8.117/30
>
>  So what to do ?
>
>  Regards
>
>  Sent from my HTC
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "dragonator" 
> To:  ,
>  
> Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...
> Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 12:51 AM
>
> Change route on the site 2 gateway to route all traffic to that firewall.
>
>
>  Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: faisal.gill...@akesp.org
> Date: 05/15/2014 19:39 (GMT-05:00)
> To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List 
> 
> Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...
>
>
>   II have two networks connected together with an MPLS network all the
> clients on both networks can access each other.
> Site 1( 172.16.0.0/21) has a packet filtering multi WAN firewall
> (172.16.1.16) on its local subnet which local clients connect to use
> internet.
> Site 2  (172.16.11.0/24) clients connects to local router (172.16.11.17)
> which routes all site 1 destend traffic to site 1 router (172.16.0.17). all
> site 2 clients have the ip of site 2 router which is (172.16.11.17) in
> their default gateway.
>
> Now i want clients on site 2 to use my packet filtering firewall
> (172.16.1.16) for their internet needs so how do i define this which out
> breaking the already communication
>
> can anyone guide me in this ?
>
>  Sent from my HTC
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Re: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...

2014-05-17 Thread Klaus Wunder
Hello,

you can use pfSense as a BGP
Router. There is a paket you can install. 

Also you can ask your ISP about the use of the Dynamic Routing Protokoll.

Kind Regards

Klaus

> Am 17.05.2014 um 20:14 schrieb "J. Echter" 
> :
> 
> Am 17.05.2014 08:25, schrieb faisal.gill...@akesp.org:
>> Thank you for replying MoJo .. 
>> So you recommend me removing pfsense acting as static routes router with 
>> real hardware routers ? Or ur asking me to add dynamic routing functionality 
>> to pfsense ? 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Faisal
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my HTC
>> 
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "mOjO" 
>> To: "pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List" , 
>> "dragonator" 
>> Subject: [pfSense]Gateway on a gateway...
>> Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 10:07 AM
>> 
>> On the pfSense firewall?  Nothing. 
>> You need to change your routers.
>> Ideally, your MPLS routers are using BGP.  Then on the site 1 router under 
>> the BGP section you can tell it to advertise the 0.0.0.0 route by adding 
>> "network 0.0.0.0" and make sure you have a static route on that router for 
>> 0.0.0.0 to the firewall. Site 2 should then use the MPLS router as their 
>> default gateway instead of the firewall.  As an added bonus you can have 
>> site 2 failover to their local internet when the MPLS is down by adding a 
>> lower metric (255) default route that will kick in when the BGP advertised 
>> route disappears when the MPLS goes down. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "faisal.gill...@akesp.org" 
>> To: "dragonator" , 
>> Subject: [pfSense]Gateway on a gateway...
>> Date: Fri, May 16, 2014 11:27 PM
>> 
>> When i try to do this .. Pfsense gives me error that firewall is not local 
>> to my subnet which is .. 
>> 172.16.1.16 on subnet 255.255.248.0
>> Branch router is on 172.16.11.0/24 which connects to firewall subnet via 
>> MPLS provider router i.e 10.152.8.117/30 
>> 
>> So what to do ?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Sent from my HTC
>> 
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "dragonator" 
>> To: , 
>> Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...
>> Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 12:51 AM
>> 
>> Change route on the site 2 gateway to route all traffic to that firewall.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: faisal.gill...@akesp.org 
>> Date: 05/15/2014 19:39 (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List  
>> Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway... 
>> 
>> 
>> II have two networks connected together with an MPLS network all the clients 
>> on both networks can access each other.
>> Site 1( 172.16.0.0/21) has a packet filtering multi WAN firewall 
>> (172.16.1.16) on its local subnet which local clients connect to use 
>> internet.
>> Site 2  (172.16.11.0/24) clients connects to local router (172.16.11.17) 
>> which routes all site 1 destend traffic to site 1 router (172.16.0.17). all 
>> site 2 clients have the ip of site 2 router which is (172.16.11.17) in their 
>> default gateway.
>> 
>> Now i want clients on site 2 to use my packet filtering firewall 
>> (172.16.1.16) for their internet needs so how do i define this which out 
>> breaking the already communication
>> can anyone guide me in this ? 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my HTC
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Re: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...

2014-05-17 Thread J. Echter
Am 17.05.2014 08:25, schrieb faisal.gill...@akesp.org:
> Thank you for replying MoJo .. 
> So you recommend me removing pfsense acting as static routes router
> with real hardware routers ? Or ur asking me to add dynamic routing
> functionality to pfsense ? 
>
> Thanks
> Faisal
>
>
> Sent from my HTC
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "mOjO" 
> To: "pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List"
> , "dragonator" 
> Subject: [pfSense]Gateway on a gateway...
> Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 10:07 AM
>
> On the pfSense firewall?  Nothing. 
> You need to change your routers.
> Ideally, your MPLS routers are using BGP.  Then on the site 1 router
> under the BGP section you can tell it to advertise the 0.0.0.0 route
> by adding "network 0.0.0.0" and make sure you have a static route on
> that router for 0.0.0.0 to the firewall. Site 2 should then use the
> MPLS router as their default gateway instead of the firewall.  As an
> added bonus you can have site 2 failover to their local internet when
> the MPLS is down by adding a lower metric (255) default route that
> will kick in when the BGP advertised route disappears when the MPLS
> goes down. 
>
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "faisal.gill...@akesp.org" 
> To: "dragonator" , 
> Subject: [pfSense]Gateway on a gateway...
> Date: Fri, May 16, 2014 11:27 PM
>
> When i try to do this .. Pfsense gives me error that firewall is not
> local to my subnet which is .. 
> 172.16.1.16 on subnet 255.255.248.0
> Branch router is on 172.16.11.0/24 which connects to firewall subnet
> via MPLS provider router i.e 10.152.8.117/30 
>
> So what to do ?
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my HTC
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "dragonator" 
> To: , 
> Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...
> Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 12:51 AM
>
> Change route on the site 2 gateway to route all traffic to that firewall.
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S^(TM) III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: faisal.gill...@akesp.org
> Date: 05/15/2014 19:39 (GMT-05:00)
> To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List 
> Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...
>
>
> II have two networks connected together with an MPLS network all
> the clients on both networks can access each other.
> Site 1( 172.16.0.0/21) has a packet filtering multi WAN firewall
> (172.16.1.16) on its local subnet which local clients connect to
> use internet.
> Site 2  (172.16.11.0/24) clients connects to local router
> (172.16.11.17) which routes all site 1 destend traffic to site 1
> router (172.16.0.17). all site 2 clients have the ip of site 2
> router which is (172.16.11.17) in their default gateway.
>
> Now i want clients on site 2 to use my packet filtering firewall
> (172.16.1.16) for their internet needs so how do i define this
> which out breaking the already communication
>
> can anyone guide me in this ? 
>
>
> Sent from my HTC
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Re: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...

2014-05-16 Thread faisal.gill...@akesp.org
Thank you for replying MoJo .. 
So you recommend me removing pfsense acting as static routes router with real 
hardware routers ? Or ur asking me to add dynamic routing functionality to 
pfsense ? 

Thanks
Faisal


Sent from my HTC

- Reply message -
From: "mOjO" 
To: "pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List" , 
"dragonator" 
Subject: [pfSense]Gateway on a gateway...
Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 10:07 AM

On the pfSense firewall?  Nothing. You need to change your routers.
Ideally, your MPLS routers are using BGP.  Then on the site 1 router under the 
BGP section you can tell it to advertise the 0.0.0.0 route by adding "network 
0.0.0.0" and make sure you have a static route on that router for 0.0.0.0 to 
the firewall. Site 2 should then use the MPLS router as their default gateway 
instead of the firewall.  As an added bonus you can have site 2 failover to 
their local internet when the MPLS is down by adding a lower metric (255) 
default route that will kick in when the BGP advertised route disappears when 
the MPLS goes down. 



- Reply message -
From: "faisal.gill...@akesp.org" 
To: "dragonator" , 
Subject: [pfSense]Gateway on a gateway...
Date: Fri, May 16, 2014 11:27 PM

When i try to do this .. Pfsense gives me error that firewall is not local to 
my subnet which is .. 
172.16.1.16 on subnet 255.255.248.0
Branch router is on 172.16.11.0/24 which connects to firewall subnet via MPLS 
provider router i.e 10.152.8.117/30 

So what to do ?

Regards

Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "dragonator" 
To: , 
Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...
Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 12:51 AM

Change route on the site 2 gateway to route all traffic to that firewall.


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone



 Original message 
From: faisal.gill...@akesp.org 
Date: 05/15/2014  19:39  (GMT-05:00) 
To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List  
Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway... 


II have two networks connected together with an MPLS network all the clients on 
both networks can access each other.
Site 1( 172.16.0.0/21) has a packet filtering multi WAN firewall (172.16.1.16) 
on its local subnet which local clients connect to use internet.
Site 2  (172.16.11.0/24) clients connects to local router (172.16.11.17) which 
routes all site 1 destend traffic to site 1 router (172.16.0.17). all site 2 
clients have the ip of site 2 router which is (172.16.11.17) in their default 
gateway.Now i want clients on site 2 to use my packet filtering firewall 
(172.16.1.16) for their internet needs so how do i define this which out 
breaking the already communication
can anyone guide me in this ? 

Sent from my HTC

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Re: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...

2014-05-16 Thread mOjO
On the pfSense firewall?  Nothing. You need to change your routers.
Ideally, your MPLS routers are using BGP.  Then on the site 1 router under the 
BGP section you can tell it to advertise the 0.0.0.0 route by adding "network 
0.0.0.0" and make sure you have a static route on that router for 0.0.0.0 to 
the firewall. Site 2 should then use the MPLS router as their default gateway 
instead of the firewall.  As an added bonus you can have site 2 failover to 
their local internet when the MPLS is down by adding a lower metric (255) 
default route that will kick in when the BGP advertised route disappears when 
the MPLS goes down.

- Reply message -
From: "faisal.gill...@akesp.org" 
To: "dragonator" , 
Subject: [pfSense]Gateway on a gateway...
Date: Fri, May 16, 2014 11:27 PM

When i try to do this .. Pfsense gives me error that firewall is not local to 
my subnet which is .. 
172.16.1.16 on subnet 255.255.248.0
Branch router is on 172.16.11.0/24 which connects to firewall subnet via MPLS 
provider router i.e 10.152.8.117/30 

So what to do ?

Regards

Sent from my HTC

- Reply message -
From: "dragonator" 
To: , 
Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...
Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 12:51 AM

Change route on the site 2 gateway to route all traffic to that firewall.


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone



 Original message 
From: faisal.gill...@akesp.org 
Date: 05/15/2014  19:39  (GMT-05:00) 
To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List  
Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway... 


II have two networks connected together with an MPLS network all the clients on 
both networks can access each other.
Site 1( 172.16.0.0/21) has a packet filtering multi WAN firewall (172.16.1.16) 
on its local subnet which local clients connect to use internet.
Site 2  (172.16.11.0/24) clients connects to local router (172.16.11.17) which 
routes all site 1 destend traffic to site 1 router (172.16.0.17). all site 2 
clients have the ip of site 2 router which is (172.16.11.17) in their default 
gateway.Now i want clients on site 2 to use my packet filtering firewall 
(172.16.1.16) for their internet needs so how do i define this which out 
breaking the already communication
can anyone guide me in this ? 

Sent from my HTC

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Re: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...

2014-05-16 Thread faisal.gill...@akesp.org
When i try to do this .. Pfsense gives me error that firewall is not local to 
my subnet which is .. 
172.16.1.16 on subnet 255.255.248.0
Branch router is on 172.16.11.0/24 which connects to firewall subnet via MPLS 
provider router i.e 10.152.8.117/30 

So what to do ?

Regards

Sent from my HTC

- Reply message -
From: "dragonator" 
To: , 
Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...
Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 12:51 AM

Change route on the site 2 gateway to route all traffic to that firewall.


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone



 Original message 
From: faisal.gill...@akesp.org 
Date: 05/15/2014  19:39  (GMT-05:00) 
To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List  
Subject: [pfSense] Gateway on a gateway... 


II have two networks connected together with an MPLS network all the clients on 
both networks can access each other.
Site 1( 172.16.0.0/21) has a packet filtering multi WAN firewall (172.16.1.16) 
on its local subnet which local clients connect to use internet.
Site 2  (172.16.11.0/24) clients connects to local router (172.16.11.17) which 
routes all site 1 destend traffic to site 1 router (172.16.0.17). all site 2 
clients have the ip of site 2 router which is (172.16.11.17) in their default 
gateway.Now i want clients on site 2 to use my packet filtering firewall 
(172.16.1.16) for their internet needs so how do i define this which out 
breaking the already communication
can anyone guide me in this ? 

Sent from my HTC

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[pfSense] Gateway on a gateway...

2014-05-15 Thread faisal.gill...@akesp.org
II have two networks connected together with an MPLS network all the clients on 
both networks can access each other.
Site 1( 172.16.0.0/21) has a packet filtering multi WAN firewall (172.16.1.16) 
on its local subnet which local clients connect to use internet.
Site 2  (172.16.11.0/24) clients connects to local router (172.16.11.17) which 
routes all site 1 destend traffic to site 1 router (172.16.0.17). all site 2 
clients have the ip of site 2 router which is (172.16.11.17) in their default 
gateway.Now i want clients on site 2 to use my packet filtering firewall 
(172.16.1.16) for their internet needs so how do i define this which out 
breaking the already communication
can anyone guide me in this ? 

Sent from my HTC

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