Re: [pfSense] Multi-WAN network access

2013-12-05 Thread Robert Fuller
Make sure you have outbound NAT rules for both WAN and COMCAST. 

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From: Walter Parker walt...@gmail.com 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 5:57:41 PM 
Subject: [pfSense] Multi-WAN network access 

Hi, 

I've got a pfSense router with a WAN connection that has 4 interfaces: 

WAN - A 200 mbs connection. This is on a /20 subnet and the other side is the 
default route. 
LAN - This is a static routed /24 network from the company providing the 200 
mbs WAN connection 
COMCAST - This is a static routed /28 network from Comcast. 

I set the WAN interface with a route back to Provider A, and the COMCAST 
interface with a route back to the Comcast gateway address. I created two 
gateway groups, one that the WAN network as Tier1 and COMCAST as Tier2, and 
another that COMCAST as Tier2 and the WAN network as Tier2. The instructions on 
the wiki say firewall rules must be add changed to use these groups rather than 
the system routing. I tried changed the allow all route to use the gateway 
group (rather than the default of *), but this didn't seem to route packets out 
the COMCAST link when the WAN link was down. 

I did a little bit of testing: I used the ping test and was able to ping the 
outside world when using WAN as the interface, but when I changed the interface 
to COMCAST, I could only ping the Comcast gateway (as if the packets would not 
route). From an external host, I was able to do an ICMP ping to the COMCAST 
interface, but was not able to do a UDP ping or make a TCP connection. 

Questions: 

I think I missed a step in the whole add a firewall rule for the gateway 
group process, which seem more like a solution left as exercise for the 
reader, what do I need to do to get gateway groups working on the firewall? 

When using ping, when I pick the interface, does it work like a Cisco, where 
the source IP is the interface address and the next hop router would be 
interface's router, in this case the Comcast gateway? 

When I have squid running a bound to the LAN interface, I'd like the system use 
which ever WAN/COMCAST interface is currently up and working. I want that to be 
the WAN interface unless it is down. 

When the WAN interface is down, I'd like to be able to ssh/https to the COMCAST 
interface address to see what is gong wrong. Can I set up the system to work 
like this? 


Thank you for any ideas as to what I might has done wrong, 


Walter 





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Re: [pfSense] Multi-WAN network access

2013-12-05 Thread Wade Blackwell
Walter did you get all your questions answered?
  I just set this up (Charter ethernet handoff/ATT PPoE) and there are
some nuances in the fw rules and routing that were not so intuitive. Let me
know if you need a hand. I'd be happy to webex and show you what I have.
Hit me off list (wade.blackw...@bablam.com).

  -W


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Walter Parker walt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I've got a pfSense router with a WAN connection that has 4 interfaces:

 WAN - A 200 mbs connection. This is on a /20 subnet and the other side is
 the default route.
 LAN - This is a static routed /24 network from the company providing the
 200 mbs WAN connection
 COMCAST - This is a static routed /28 network from Comcast.

 I set the WAN interface with a route back to Provider A, and the COMCAST
 interface with a route back to the Comcast gateway address. I created two
 gateway groups, one that the WAN network as Tier1 and COMCAST as Tier2, and
 another that COMCAST as Tier2 and the WAN network as Tier2. The
 instructions on the wiki say firewall rules must be add changed to use
 these groups rather than the system routing. I tried changed the allow all
 route to use the gateway group (rather than the default of *), but this
 didn't seem to route packets out the COMCAST link when the WAN link was
 down.

 I did a little bit of testing: I used the ping test and was able to ping
 the outside world when using WAN as the interface, but when I changed the
 interface to COMCAST, I could only ping the Comcast gateway (as if the
 packets would not route). From an external host, I was able to do an ICMP
 ping to the COMCAST interface, but was not able to do a UDP ping or make a
 TCP connection.

 Questions:

 I think I missed a step in the whole add a firewall rule for the gateway
 group process, which seem more like a solution left as exercise for the
 reader, what do I need to do to get gateway groups working on the firewall?

 When using ping, when I pick the interface, does it work like a Cisco,
 where the source IP is the interface address and the next hop router would
 be interface's router, in this case the Comcast gateway?

 When I have squid running a bound to the LAN interface, I'd like the
 system use which ever WAN/COMCAST interface is currently up and working. I
 want that to be the WAN interface unless it is down.

 When the WAN interface is down, I'd like to be able to ssh/https to the
 COMCAST interface address to see what is gong wrong. Can I set up the
 system to work like this?


 Thank you for any ideas as to what I might has done wrong,


 Walter






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[pfSense] Multi-WAN network access

2013-12-04 Thread Walter Parker
Hi,

I've got a pfSense router with a WAN connection that has 4 interfaces:

WAN - A 200 mbs connection. This is on a /20 subnet and the other side is
the default route.
LAN - This is a static routed /24 network from the company providing the
200 mbs WAN connection
COMCAST - This is a static routed /28 network from Comcast.

I set the WAN interface with a route back to Provider A, and the COMCAST
interface with a route back to the Comcast gateway address. I created two
gateway groups, one that the WAN network as Tier1 and COMCAST as Tier2, and
another that COMCAST as Tier2 and the WAN network as Tier2. The
instructions on the wiki say firewall rules must be add changed to use
these groups rather than the system routing. I tried changed the allow all
route to use the gateway group (rather than the default of *), but this
didn't seem to route packets out the COMCAST link when the WAN link was
down.

I did a little bit of testing: I used the ping test and was able to ping
the outside world when using WAN as the interface, but when I changed the
interface to COMCAST, I could only ping the Comcast gateway (as if the
packets would not route). From an external host, I was able to do an ICMP
ping to the COMCAST interface, but was not able to do a UDP ping or make a
TCP connection.

Questions:

I think I missed a step in the whole add a firewall rule for the gateway
group process, which seem more like a solution left as exercise for the
reader, what do I need to do to get gateway groups working on the firewall?

When using ping, when I pick the interface, does it work like a Cisco,
where the source IP is the interface address and the next hop router would
be interface's router, in this case the Comcast gateway?

When I have squid running a bound to the LAN interface, I'd like the system
use which ever WAN/COMCAST interface is currently up and working. I want
that to be the WAN interface unless it is down.

When the WAN interface is down, I'd like to be able to ssh/https to the
COMCAST interface address to see what is gong wrong. Can I set up the
system to work like this?


Thank you for any ideas as to what I might has done wrong,


Walter






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