Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-22 Thread Peter Collins
On 22 May 2014 02:15, David QuayCendre david.quaycen...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 2850, with ESX you can't have VM in 64bits (CPU to old and VMWare don't work on this CPU family), but ESX is in 64bits Depending what guests you want to run, you could look at using Xen with a pv DomU.

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-22 Thread David QuayCendre
Yes the CPU is 64bits, I think it work to in Proxmox. But VMWare don't want to work on this CPU to permit to use 64bits for VM. 2014-05-22 10:04 GMT+02:00 Peter Collins pfse...@mail-box.me.uk: On 22 May 2014 02:15, David QuayCendre david.quaycen...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 2850, with ESX

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-22 Thread Peter Collins
On 22 May 2014 11:43, David QuayCendre david.quaycen...@gmail.com wrote: Yes the CPU is 64bits, I think it work to in Proxmox. But VMWare don't want to work on this CPU to permit to use 64bits for VM. Yes if you want to limit yourself to using VMWare then you can't have 64bit guests unless

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Giles Coochey
On 20/05/2014 02:12, Chris Bagnall wrote: Forgive me for saying so, but that's a massive overkill for routing a 15Mbps connection. Granted, it'd be entirely appropriate if you were routing multiple gig transits in a datacentre environment where the power consumption might be justified, but in

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Ryan Coleman
On May 20, 2014, at 1:59, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: On 20/05/2014 02:12, Chris Bagnall wrote: Forgive me for saying so, but that's a massive overkill for routing a 15Mbps connection. Granted, it'd be entirely appropriate if you were routing multiple gig transits in a

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Brian Caouette
Are we talking fan noise? Hard drive noise? Also a comment was made about power. What are we talking? On 5/20/2014 2:59 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: On 20/05/2014 02:12, Chris Bagnall wrote: Forgive me for saying so, but that's a massive overkill for routing a 15Mbps connection. Granted, it'd be

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Jason Pyeron
-Original Message- From: Brian Caouette Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:00 Are we talking fan noise? Hard drive noise? Also a comment was made about power. What are we talking? The general comments about how a PE2850 is overkill in the described home environment. On 5/20/2014

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Jim Thompson
On May 20, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: On 20/05/2014 12:28, Ryan Coleman wrote: On May 20, 2014, at 1:59, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: s Not to mention that if I ran a PE 2850 at home there would probably be complaints about the noise!!! Those

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Rick Payton
, although 4GB of ram is rather limiting in that regard. --mauirixxx From: List [mailto:list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org] On Behalf Of Brian Caouette Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:00 AM To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List Subject: Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850 Are we talking fan noise

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Bagnall
I concur with Ryan's readings with the 2950s - we use them as KVM host machines in a datacentre environment and they average around 250W under moderate load. That's with 4x SSDs in each. Also worth mentioning that pfSense will barely use a gig of disk space; the 6x 73GB SAS units specced by

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Brian Caouette
For the price paid it can't be beat. I've seen smaller systems go for much more so figured I had room to grow. At some point I maybe be able to have to virtual machines on this unit and use one for a media center or cloud backup for the home business. Are their packages available for this? I

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Doug Lytle
What software is available to do virtual machines? I'm currently using ESXi 5.10 Free version. Doug ___ List mailing list List@lists.pfsense.org https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Jim Pingle
On 5/20/2014 1:45 PM, Brian Caouette wrote: For the price paid it can't be beat. There is more than the sticker price to be considered. Note that these are just vague numbers that would vary by the specific equipment power usage and local power costs. Atom, ~35W, 24h/day @ $0.05/kWh = About

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Ryan Coleman
Same here - 4 servers around the country running it. On May 20, 2014, at 12:57, Doug Lytle supp...@drdos.info wrote: What software is available to do virtual machines? I'm currently using ESXi 5.10 Free version. Doug ___ List mailing list

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Chris L
Citrix XenServer is worth a look too. On May 20, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote: Same here - 4 servers around the country running it. On May 20, 2014, at 12:57, Doug Lytle supp...@drdos.info wrote: What software is available to do virtual machines? I'm

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Bagnall
On 20 May 2014, at 18:45, Brian Caouette bri...@dlois.com wrote: What software is available to do virtual machines? We use KVM. Kind regards, Chris -- This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ List mailing list List@lists.pfsense.org

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Jim Thompson
If you had purchased something more modern, (even an APU, which uses 5-10% of your 2850, and is completely silent) bhyve would be an option. Which is the general direction I'm headed with pfSense for being able to run a media center or NAS on top. Refurb c1100s are $600 on fleabay with 8

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Harlan Stenn
On 5/20/14 11:01 AM, Jim Pingle wrote: On 5/20/2014 1:45 PM, Brian Caouette wrote: For the price paid it can't be beat. There is more than the sticker price to be considered. Note that these are just vague numbers that would vary by the specific equipment power usage and local power

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Bagnall
On 20 May 2014, at 21:37, Harlan Stenn har...@everett.org wrote: Where are you that you get electricity for .05/kWh? Here in Oregon we have pretty great rates, and I think we're paying .10-.12/kWh. I don't know where the OP hails from, but here in the UK (Scotland, specifically, at the

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Derek Vance
As far as architecture is concerned, AMD64 means its written 64-bit processor. Although someone with more knowledge of the inner workings may be able to tell you specific differences, it usually means it was compiled on an AMD processor, but will work on (almost) any 64-bit processor. The thing to

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Ryan Coleman
Many states, but not Minnesota, give you retail rates on putting power back on the grid… in Minnesota we get producer rates (about $.03kwh instead of $.13-16 [seasonally]). On May 20, 2014, at 15:48, Chris Bagnall pfse...@lists.minotaur.cc wrote: On 20 May 2014, at 21:37, Harlan Stenn

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Jim Pingle
On 5/20/2014 4:37 PM, Harlan Stenn wrote: On 5/20/14 11:01 AM, Jim Pingle wrote: On 5/20/2014 1:45 PM, Brian Caouette wrote: For the price paid it can't be beat. There is more than the sticker price to be considered. Note that these are just vague numbers that would vary by the specific

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Ryan Coleman
Check the model of the Xeon processor but I believe its 64bit. Once you check the model if it's a 64 use the AMD version otherwise if you can't find out go with the intel. -- Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com m. 651.373.5015 o. 612.568.2749 On May 19, 2014, at 17:37, Brian Caouette

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Walter Parker
The amd64 is for all 64 bit machines (amd64 and Intel EMT64) The x86 is for all 32 bit machines (Intel and AMD) According the spec sheet, http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2850_specs.pdf, that is a 64 bit machine. Note, because AMD developed 64 for the x86 first, the BSDs

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Ryan Coleman
Itanium is the only one that’s different from AMD64. I’ve never touched an Itanium-driven machine. On May 19, 2014, at 18:06, Walter Parker walt...@gmail.com wrote: The amd64 is for all 64 bit machines (amd64 and Intel EMT64) The x86 is for all 32 bit machines (Intel and AMD) According

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Walter Parker
Yea, I forgot about Itanium. For Itanium the initials are IA-64. There is a Tier-2 supported version of FreeBSD for that processor, but pfSense does not ship an IA-64 version. Walter On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote: Itanium is the only one that’s

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Brian Caouette
So this machine should scream for a home based network from the looks of it. My current test machine you'll all laugh www.dlois.com/status.html is here. (I kepted my old domain from when I was a dialup provider) VERY old machine with limited hardware. It works well but doesn't always keep up