Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-21 Thread Dave Warren
On 2016-08-21 05:50, Paul Mather wrote: Not to sound like an apologist or a shill for the pfSense project, but in the line just above the "Products" link that you presumably clicked on, right at the very top of the page, is a link labelled "Store". On the same line as the "Store" link is a

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-21 Thread WebDawg
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Dave Warren wrote: > On 2016-08-20 04:02, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 3:10 AM, Dave Warren wrote: >>> On 2016-08-03 08:43, Steve Yates wrote: I'm being serious but what is your rationale for

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-21 Thread Paul Mather
On Aug 21, 2016, at 4:03 PM, Bryan D. wrote: > On 2016-Aug-21, at 5:50 AM, Paul Mather wrote: > >> Even on that page it's incorrect to say it "only" offers the XG-2758. >> That's the only one they show in the main table on that page ... > >

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-21 Thread Peder Rovelstad
> Blaming a would-be customer for not seeing/finding something on a catalog/store/marketing page is probably not a good strategy as it won't help sales. I'd 'Like' this myself, but I don't have thumbs. ___ pfSense mailing list

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-21 Thread Bryan D.
On 2016-Aug-21, at 5:50 AM, Paul Mather wrote: > Even on that page it's incorrect to say it "only" offers the XG-2758. That's > the only one they show in the main table on that page ... There's likely good science behind the fact that nearly all e-stores will present

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-21 Thread Bret Busby
On 21/08/2016, Paul Mather wrote: > On Aug 21, 2016, at 2:56 AM, Dave Warren wrote: > > >> I started at https://pfsense.org/, then clicked on Products, which took me >> to https://pfsense.org/products/ which only offers >>

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-21 Thread Paul Mather
On Aug 21, 2016, at 2:56 AM, Dave Warren wrote: > On 2016-08-20 04:02, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 3:10 AM, Dave Warren wrote: >>> On 2016-08-03 08:43, Steve Yates wrote: I'm being serious but what is your rationale for not

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-21 Thread Eero Volotinen
Who is reselling lanner units in europe? I just bought one lanner unit from china.it looks perfect for my home usage.. Eero 21.8.2016 10.22 ap. "Kendrick Vargas" kirjoitti: > Don't know how late I am to the game on this suggestion, but I am quite > happy with the Lanner Inc.

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-21 Thread Kendrick Vargas
Don't know how late I am to the game on this suggestion, but I am quite happy with the Lanner Inc. product I bought. I was able to get them to sell me a single unit, the cost was fine for my needs (at the time an Atom D510). They're rackable, and my FW-7539 has been running non-stop for years. I

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-21 Thread Dave Warren
On 2016-08-20 04:02, Jim Thompson wrote: On Aug 20, 2016, at 3:10 AM, Dave Warren wrote: On 2016-08-03 08:43, Steve Yates wrote: I'm being serious but what is your rationale for not using pfSense's/NetGate's? https://www.pfsense.org/products/ The "cheap" part (< $299)?

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-20 Thread Jim Thompson
-- Jim > On Aug 20, 2016, at 3:10 AM, Dave Warren wrote: > >> On 2016-08-03 08:43, Steve Yates wrote: >> I'm being serious but what is your rationale for not using >> pfSense's/NetGate's? >> >> https://www.pfsense.org/products/ >> >> The "cheap" part (< $299)? We tried

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-20 Thread Dave Warren
On 2016-08-03 08:43, Steve Yates wrote: I'm being serious but what is your rationale for not using pfSense's/NetGate's? https://www.pfsense.org/products/ The "cheap" part (< $299)? We tried a "build our own" approach and it's tough to get a small package. Any old PC will do just fine if one

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-04 Thread Moshe Katz
Jim, I have to say that I agree with everything that you wrote. I am no stranger to the problems and concerns that plague funding of open-source software, and to the one-sided expectation of many (perhaps even most) users. My original concern was merely about implications of the particular

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-04 Thread Bob Gustafson
+1 On 08/04/2016 06:50 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: Open source is no different, there are sill value exchanges that must exist. All sides must be content with the exchange. I look forward to your response. Jim ___ pfSense mailing list

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-04 Thread Jim Thompson
> On Aug 3, 2016, at 9:18 PM, Moshe Katz wrote: > > Maybe I'm reading too much into points 1 (second paragraph) and 4 of your > message, but it sounds somewhat hostile to the old use-your-own-hardware > selling point that brought me into the pfSense community ten years ago

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Ryan Coleman
Ahh, well, it’s hard to tell when you don’t give a name but a blanket response without a quoted email. > On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: > > My response was not directed at you, Ryan. > > > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Ryan Coleman

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Moshe Katz
Jim, As a long-time member of this list, a former contributor (and hopefully future contributor again once my work allows), and a major proponent of pfSense any time I hear anyone talking about purchasing new firewalls (I even wrote a paper back in college about using and contributing back to

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Jim Thompson
My response was not directed at you, Ryan. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Correction. Instead the system is ON an open-SOURCE platform. > > > On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > > > > Instead the system is

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Ryan Coleman
Correction. Instead the system is ON an open-SOURCE platform. > On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > > Instead the system is open platform. ___ pfSense mailing list https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Ryan Coleman
Jim, I realize that - I’ve purchased thousands of dollars of your branded equipment to be installed at my corporate customer sites. However I find them lacking in some regards and have moved on to buying other hardware. If you wanted to sell just your hardware to support the system you’d find

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Jim Thompson
Here's all you need to know: 1) we only test releases on the hardware we sell, or have sold in the past two years. (Obviously doesn't include VM images.) We don't intentionally break anything, but your J1900 box isn't in the test matrix, nor will it ever be. That said, we have included fixes

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Robert Obrinsky
I put a Kill-a-Watt meter on it and measured it. During boot-up, it spiked around 58 watts. After settling down at boot, it seems to run consistently at 32-34 watts. Processor utilization rarely exceeds 6%. I run different firewall software but am running a web proxy with AV, snort,

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Jeremy Bennett
I can only second what everyone else has said... If cheap is 'best', grab any old box and throw some NICs in it. Downsides of this approach are power consumption and the associated 'mostly works' weirdness of used hardware. I've found a 4 port j1900 board in a case with rack mount brackets that

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Karl Fife
Honestly that j1900 looks like a really great choice. I think the right questions would be whether you can tolerate the VGA console, whether it will cost more in terms of power consumption, whether you need the AES-NI instructions. I was going to mention ECC ram, but the netgate box appears

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Ryan Coleman
And there are many people on the list here who have vouched for the J1900 box mentioned earlier. I am pretty sure we’ve vetted it; I know I have and I am going to start deploying it at customer sites over NetGate hardware. > On Aug 3, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Karl Fife wrote: >

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Ryan Coleman
Mine is footprint vs function. For $200 I have a box that takes up less room on the wall than the NetGate product and offers more functionality (the J1900 device mentioned earlier). The SG-2220 is $100 more than I paid with half the ports. I’ll pass. > On Aug 3, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Steve Yates

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Karl Fife
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:37 AM To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List <list@lists.pfsense.org> Subject: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home? Any ideas where to find perfect pfsense box for home usage. Must be cheap and silent

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Steve Yates
lists.pfsense.org> Subject: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home? Any ideas where to find perfect pfsense box for home usage. Must be cheap and silent? netgate device? shuttle box? ___ pfSense mailing list https://lists.pfsense.org/

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread rainer
Am 2016-08-03 17:15, schrieb Robert Obrinsky: I am currently using a refurb HP Elite 8200 SFF that I bought through Newegg. I removed the video card so I could use the built-in video and added 2 dual port HP gigabit NICs (Intels in reality) from Amazon. It came with 4 GB RAM, 500 GB hard drive,

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Robert Obrinsky
I am currently using a refurb HP Elite 8200 SFF that I bought through Newegg. I removed the video card so I could use the built-in video and added 2 dual port HP gigabit NICs (Intels in reality) from Amazon. It came with 4 GB RAM, 500 GB hard drive, and Core I-5 processor at 3.3 GHz. Very

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Vick Khera
My home office is protected by a Netgate APU box (which it seems they have replaced with some other device at the low end now). It is a little pricey, but they offer great support and it supports the project in the best way. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Eero Volotinen

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread John Martinez
>>> >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856205007 >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: List [mailto:list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org] On Behalf Of Eero >>> Volotinen >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 2:

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Ryan Coleman
t 03, 2016 2:37 AM >> To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List <list@lists.pfsense.org> >> Subject: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home? >> >> Any ideas where to find perfect pfsense box for home usage. >> >> Must be cheap and si

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Eero Volotinen
> > -Original Message- > From: List [mailto:list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org] On Behalf Of Eero > Volotinen > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 2:37 AM > To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List <list@lists.pfsense.org> > Subject: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfse

Re: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Peder Rovelstad
Support and Discussion Mailing List <list@lists.pfsense.org> Subject: [pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home? Any ideas where to find perfect pfsense box for home usage. Must be cheap and silent? netgate device? shuttle box? -

[pfSense] looking for perfect pfsense box for home?

2016-08-03 Thread Eero Volotinen
Any ideas where to find perfect pfsense box for home usage. Must be cheap and silent? netgate device? shuttle box? -- Eero ___ pfSense mailing list https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list Support the project with Gold! https://pfsense.org/gold