Re: [pfSense] My son is able to bypass my captivate portal

2014-05-14 Thread Ryan Rodrigue
You can set a nat forward on dns port to force all dns request to go to a 
specific address.
FirewallNAT
Interface  LAN (or your internal interface you wish to use) Protocol TCP/UDP
Destination: Any
Destination Port Range: 53
Redirect Target IP:  Where you want it to go, Perhaps OpenDNS address.  I think 
you could put the IP of the router in there.  I never tried it like that.
This may or may not fix the captive portal issue, but should let you use 
opendns for all dns queries.
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Re: [pfSense] My son is able to bypass my captivate portal

2014-05-11 Thread Ryan Coleman
I don’t have the brain power to rewrite this right now… but this page is pretty 
well written:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_portal

Basically it takes a DNS call the first time and goes elsewhere. then it 
corrects itself. If he’s got a different DNS set up then either CP does not 
work or, potentially, it could be bypassed.

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Ryan


On May 11, 2014, at 8:04, Wajih Ahmed wajih.ah...@gmail.com wrote:

 He plays online games and i don't see him logged in the captivate portal.  
 Furthermore i have some MAC address that i allow to passthough but i have 
 checked and he doesn't seem to be duplicating them.  Does the captivate 
 portal cover all ports or specific one?
 
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Re: [pfSense] My son is able to bypass my captivate portal

2014-05-11 Thread Mehma Sarja
My Samsung Chromebook bypasses my router/OpenDNS because it has it's own
DNS entries.

Yudhvir



 Basically it takes a DNS call the first time and goes elsewhere. then it
 corrects itself. If he’s got a different DNS set up then either CP does not
 work or, potentially, it could be bypassed.

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Re: [pfSense] My son is able to bypass my captivate portal

2014-05-11 Thread Adam Thompson
On May 11, 2014 1:37:01 PM CDT, Mehma Sarja mehmasa...@gmail.com wrote:
My Samsung Chromebook bypasses my router/OpenDNS because it has it's
own
DNS entries.

Yudhvir



 Basically it takes a DNS call the first time and goes elsewhere. then
it
 corrects itself. If he’s got a different DNS set up then either CP
does not
 work or, potentially, it could be bypassed.

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The simple solution is to block all outbound DNS at the firewall, but this can 
also break things (like some Google and Apple devices).
Even broken devices usually have a fallback mode, but be careful of what breaks 
when you do this!
-Adam
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Re: [pfSense] My son is able to bypass my captivate portal

2014-05-11 Thread Ryan Coleman
Correct. Using this feature will break any client with a hard-defined DNS - as 
we found out in testing at the bar.


On May 11, 2014, at 13:48, Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net wrote:

 On May 11, 2014 1:37:01 PM CDT, Mehma Sarja mehmasa...@gmail.com wrote:
 My Samsung Chromebook bypasses my router/OpenDNS because it has it's own DNS 
 entries. 
 
 Yudhvir
 
 
 
 Basically it takes a DNS call the first time and goes elsewhere. then it 
 corrects itself. If he’s got a different DNS set up then either CP does not 
 work or, potentially, it could be bypassed.
 
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 The simple solution is to block all outbound DNS at the firewall, but this 
 can also break things (like some Google and Apple devices).
 Even broken devices usually have a fallback mode, but be careful of what 
 breaks when you do this!
 -Adam
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Re: [pfSense] My son is able to bypass my captivate portal

2014-05-11 Thread Stefan Baur
Am 11.05.2014 21:28, schrieb Ryan Coleman:

 The simple solution is to block all outbound DNS at the firewall, but
 this can also break things (like some Google and Apple devices).
 Even broken devices usually have a fallback mode, but be careful of
 what breaks when you do this!

 Correct. Using this feature will break any client with a hard-defined
 DNS - as we found out in testing at the bar.

(Guys, could we please use proper quoting etiquette instead of
full-quoting and alternating top- and bottom-posting?)

I've never tried this in combination with a captive portal, but how
about redirecting *:53 to the pfsense DNS with a NAT rule that listens
on LAN instead of WAN?
Would that break the captive portal setup?

-Stefan
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Re: [pfSense] My son is able to bypass my captivate portal

2014-05-11 Thread Matthias May

Am 11.05.2014 21:48, schrieb Stefan Baur:

Am 11.05.2014 21:28, schrieb Ryan Coleman:


The simple solution is to block all outbound DNS at the firewall, but
this can also break things (like some Google and Apple devices).
Even broken devices usually have a fallback mode, but be careful of
what breaks when you do this!

Correct. Using this feature will break any client with a hard-defined
DNS - as we found out in testing at the bar.

(Guys, could we please use proper quoting etiquette instead of
full-quoting and alternating top- and bottom-posting?)

I've never tried this in combination with a captive portal, but how
about redirecting *:53 to the pfsense DNS with a NAT rule that listens
on LAN instead of WAN?
Would that break the captive portal setup?

-Stefan
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I have a setup where i use this together.
Rewrite all dns traffic to the pfSense and capture all clients with the CP.
Works quite well.
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Re: [pfSense] My son is able to bypass my captivate portal

2014-05-11 Thread Ryan Coleman
I’ll expand this: My email client defaults to top-reply. I have not found a way 
to fix that. My mobile client is top-reply only. Removing the cruft - I do that 
when necessary but when it’s a main reply to the content, no. Footers are 4 
lines long, not enough to make even the most stringent of ISP and mobile data 
plans wince.

We don’t include images (the biggest of all data hogs) or html in our emails.

On May 11, 2014, at 15:48, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:

 No. 
 
 
 On May 11, 2014, at 14:48, Stefan Baur newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de 
 wrote:
 
 Am 11.05.2014 21:28, schrieb Ryan Coleman:
 
 The simple solution is to block all outbound DNS at the firewall, but
 this can also break things (like some Google and Apple devices).
 Even broken devices usually have a fallback mode, but be careful of
 what breaks when you do this!
 
 Correct. Using this feature will break any client with a hard-defined
 DNS - as we found out in testing at the bar.
 
 (Guys, could we please use proper quoting etiquette instead of
 full-quoting and alternating top- and bottom-posting?)
 
 I've never tried this in combination with a captive portal, but how
 about redirecting *:53 to the pfsense DNS with a NAT rule that listens
 on LAN instead of WAN?
 Would that break the captive portal setup?
 
 -Stefan
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