Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread discusster
Ben said: If someone with a contrast-related vision problem can't read the default version, how can they read the site to find the alternate stylesheet in the first place?And Mike said: but with an incredibly obvious user preference control first and foremost at the top of the document; and for

RE: [WSG] Access Keys and large sites

2006-06-30 Thread michael.brockington
Well if no-one else is going to say it, then I will have to: Don't use Access Keys except on an Intranet site. IF you do a quick Google search for 'Access Keys' and 'Bad' you should find several articles which have researched the number of such keys that do not clash with a Browser, OS or AT

Re: [WSG] LInks Multi-language

2006-06-30 Thread Carlos Rincon Sanchez
SHould the link stay in the some language of page or in the language that gonna change? -- http://www.artideias.com Hi, i think that is better to put the links in its language (English, EspaƱol and so on) If i only speak Spanish and i'm in an English web page i will not know what Change to

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/06/30 03:32 (GMT-0400) discusster apparently typed: http://theletter.co.uk/longhand?id=1918 Feedback would be appreciated. 1-Firefox and SeaMonkey here seem to be loading no stylesheet by default. 2-Normal vision users already have their default set to the size they prefer, and so don't

Re: [WSG] LInks Multi-language

2006-06-30 Thread Martin Heiden
Gaspar, on Friday, June 30, 2006 at 10:52 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: for me the only mean useful for this page it's teh 3 links but i thing it's better take retire this page, dont't u thing the same? Yes, definitly! My big question it's the in body i will tell what language or in the

Re: [WSG] LInks Multi-language

2006-06-30 Thread Matthew Pennell
You may find this article helpful:http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200604/indicating_language_choice_flags_text_both_neither/ **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

RE: [WSG] LInks Multi-language

2006-06-30 Thread Frances Berriman
I agree. On language versions I've done, we've presented selections with either the language or country presented in the native language (and twice, if there are two languages in a country), so you'd easily be able to spot your own language in a listing. For example - would you recognise

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread discusster
Firefox and SeaMonkey here seem to be loading no stylesheet by defaultStrange one... anyone else got this problem?Cheers,BlairOn 30/06/06, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 06/06/30 03:32 (GMT-0400) discusster apparently typed: http://theletter.co.uk/longhand?id=1918 Feedback would be

Re: [WSG] LInks Multi-language

2006-06-30 Thread Steve Olive
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:18 pm, Martin Heiden wrote: Gaspar, From a user perspective it would be more useful to describe the link in the language of links destiny. If I were on your site and I couldn't understand Portuguese, I would definitely prefer a link with text in a language that I

Re: [WSG] LInks Multi-language

2006-06-30 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 6/30/06, Steve Olive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree - another option is to use small icons that are flags of the nationsassociated with the destiny languageBut (as per the link I posted above) languages are spoken in more than one country. The name of the language, in that language, is the

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating - Accessibility Navbar

2006-06-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/06/30 10:40 (GMT+0100) discusster apparently typed: On 30/06/06, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/06/30 08:32 (GMT+0100) discusster apparently typed: http://theletter.co.uk/longhand?id=1918 Feedback would be appreciated. 1-Firefox and SeaMonkey here seem to be loading

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread discusster
perhaps it was just a moment of unstyled-ness before the loadThat's a relief, thanks Frances!BlairOn 30/06/06, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was a spot slow to load, but FF got your stylesheet, so perhaps it was just a moment of unstyled-ness before the load? I've

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread Tony Crockford
Felix Miata wrote: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/bigdefaults.html can you explain the logic of separating this content into two columns that are not continuous down the page, but short sections across the page. I was reading down the left hand column and wondering why it kept jumping...

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Firefox and SeaMonkey here seem to be loading no stylesheet by default Strange one... anyone else got this problem? I've only seen it dressed Blair... looks good to me. Firefox 1.0.7 Mike ** The discussion list for

[WSG CMS] Rob Griffin is out of the office.

2006-06-30 Thread rob . griffin
I will be out of the office starting 06/29/2006 and will not return until 07/04/2006. Im traveling and out of the office Thursday and Friday June 29th and 30th, but will be checking voice and email. Monday and Tuesday our offices are closed for the 4th. Ill be back in the office on Wednesday

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating - Accessibility Navbar

2006-06-30 Thread Tom Livingston
-- Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com Internet Explorer 6 is crap. My apologies to the IE7 team for the above signature. That was an internal/inside joke, never meant to be seen in the wild... -- Tom Livingston |

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread Jan Brasna
I also think low contrast is bad for general users and not just disabled or low vision users... good contrast can be viewed as a usability feature :) Or not ;) I personally dislike high contrast as it strains my eyes more than an overall combination with not that sharp/aggressive/tense

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread Designer
Jan Brasna wrote: I think the ball is on the side of browser vendors. This should be UI/UA thing, not a job for the website itself. Absolutely! And lets add a page-zoom (Like Opera) as a must for ALL browsers . . . -- Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK)

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/06/30 18:59 (GMT+0100) Designer apparently typed: Jan Brasna wrote: I think the ball is on the side of browser vendors. This should be UI/UA thing, not a job for the website itself. Absolutely! And lets add a page-zoom (Like Opera) as a must for ALL browsers . . . An still open

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread Jan Brasna
An still open enhancement request was filed to include this ... We all know how it's like with the browsers today :/ Zoom functions are designed primarily as user defense mechanisms Sorry Felix, but this is really nonsense. It is made for what it should do - making the whole site more

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/06/30 21:43 (GMT+0200) Jan Brasna apparently typed: Felix Miata wrote: Zoom functions are designed primarily as user defense mechanisms Sorry Felix, but this is really nonsense. Necessary nonsense required as a result of virtually universal poor web page design. A web browser viewport

Re: [WSG] Access Keys and large sites

2006-06-30 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if no-one else is going to say it, then I will have to: Don't use Access Keys except on an Intranet site. And why would an intranet warrant different treatment from any other web content? P -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [WSG] LInks Multi-language

2006-06-30 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Steve Olive wrote: I agree - another option is to use small icons that are flags of the nations associated with the destiny language Flags are not a good indicator for language, as certain countries can be multi-lingual, and the same language can be spoken in a variety of countries (e.g.

Re: [WSG] LInks Multi-language

2006-06-30 Thread Jan Brasna
too tired to hunt for it... ... but have slaves to that for me ;) Servez-vous: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/flags.html http://www.useit.com/alertbox/flagproblem.html http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200604/indicating_language_choice_flags_text_both_neither/