[WSG] Numbered paragraphs

Hi guys, I work for a government organisation in Singapore and one of the practices is numbering paragraphs on press releases. I'd use an ordered list, but where headers are inserted, I am forced to do an start="n">, which I understand is deprecated. What other more semantic alternatives ar

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

Jough wrote: > I hate to bring this up because it will probably start one heck of an > argument, but I would like to give my opinion on the semantics of this > particular project. > > In some rare occasions multiple 's are necessary to define a > particular , but I do not think that is the case her

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

I use definition lists to markup the semantics of name/value pairs. Can anyone suggest a better way of representing that a relation exists between two elements? - nello Nello Lucchesi The October Group, Ltd. *** List Guideli

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Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

If the programmer's markup had been better than the example you gave then it would be ok to be picky about whether a DL is the best choice. However it isn't. DL is of course a standard that is included in the W3C spec. I do agree though, with Patrick's comment; "DL is a badly (or rather, fl

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Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

On 10/11/06, Rob O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problems were with a liquid form layout I was doing for a new cms with tooltips floated left and the labels and form controls in regular flow inside the dd's. Plus nearly everything had % widths which doesn't make things any easier for

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Rob O'Rourke wrote: Well yeah but its never that straightforward though, I've been messing with dls inside forms recently and there are loads of IE quirks and cross browser differences even before adding any scripts. Strange, I've never had issues like that with DLs..

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

Title: Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise Tee,   As patrick says wheb it comes to dl usage there are plenty of ways to skin the cat. The question to ask is a dl appropriate?  If yes then the point moves to the programmers familiarity with the dl cons

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

Tee G. Peng wrote: Patrick, please enlighten me, so that next time I can do a better job. What I'm saying is: the definition list is fine, the additional proposed use of a DL and a UL is probably fine as well, and you could even treat it as a small table (as long as appropriate headings are

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:44 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: so there are probably 100s of ways to skin that particular cat (or orang utan). Patrick, please enlighten me, so that next time I can do a better job. tee *** List Guidel

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

Jough wrote: I hate to bring this up because it will probably start one heck of an argument DL is a badly (or rather, fluffily) designed construct, so there are probably 100s of ways to skin that particular cat (or orang utan). P -- Patrick H. Lauke _

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

Rob O'Rourke wrote: Divs are more stable for playing with css properties so that might be why. Playing with CSS properties always works regardless of the tag, as long as it is a block by default in this case. Well yeah but its never that straightforward though, I've been messing with dls in

RE: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

> > > > Orang utan > 1012 total posts > 3028 overall score > I hate to bring this up because it will probably start one heck of an argument, but I would like to give my opinion on the semantics of this particular project. In some rare occasions multiple 's are

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

Tee G. Peng wrote: On Oct 11, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Rob O'Rourke wrote: Alright Tee, Definition lists are pretty cool but is it standard practice to have multiple s ? That might be what they were getting at. You can nest almost anything inside a so that might be another solution. Rob, Coo

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

Christian Montoya wrote: On 10/11/06, Rob O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tee G. Peng wrote: > > Client came back that the member profile markup was replaced because > her client's programmer said is not standard practise. She also > questioned my choice of the new markup with definition li

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

On Oct 11, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Rob O'Rourke wrote: Alright Tee, Definition lists are pretty cool but is it standard practice to have multiple s ? That might be what they were getting at. You can nest almost anything inside a so that might be another solution. Rob, Cool was not the in

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

I think the problem is that standard and standards have different meanings. By standard practice, the programmer means that definition lists are rarely used (which is true, if you're dealing with old-school web designers / programmers). So standard practice and practicing standards means two op

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

On 10/11/06, Rob O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tee G. Peng wrote: > > Client came back that the member profile markup was replaced because > her client's programmer said is not standard practise. She also > questioned my choice of the new markup with definition list again, she > said she c

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

Tee G. Peng wrote: Client came back that the member profile markup was replaced because her client's programmer said is not standard practise. She also questioned my choice of the new markup with definition list again, she said she can't submit it to her client therefor needs an explanati

Re: [WSG] Getting the layout to work and with all browsers

Kevin Murphy wrote: I'm still seeing only a very small percentage of users with IE 7, but even after its released, my campus CS department has the auto updates for things like IE disabled, so I don't think that our lab computers will be upgrading when everyone else does, and i don't think we ar

Re: [WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

On 10/11/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... I am awaiting for explanation from client why definition list is not 'standard practise'. I understand in that web application, every class and unique ID, are hooked up to Ajax or JS codes. My programming knowledge is next to zero, so I am v

[WSG] programmmer said: difination list not a standard practise

A while ago I did a small layout (member profile) that looks like this for client for a social bookmarking application in Rails framework: http://project.lotusseedsdesign.com/test/user1.html I had it style in definition lists. Few days ago I was asked to add three tabs to the member profil

Re: [WSG] Getting the layout to work and with all browsers

I'm still seeing only a very small percentage of users with IE 7, but even after its released, my campus CS department has the auto updates for things like IE disabled, so I don't think that our lab computers will be upgrading when everyone else does, and i don't think we are unique in that. So be

Re: [WSG] Getting the layout to work and with all browsers

I know I know. ;) Looks like MS are prettyy much forcing IE7 on users with automatic updates anyway, so would be wise to get future proofed. From: ~davidLaakso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Getting the layout to work

Re: [WSG] IE shrinks/pushes margins on :hover

On Oct 11, 2006, at 6:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know where to look. Is this the infamous "hop on :hover" or "shrinking margins" or maybe "collapsing margins", mentioned on http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html ? Something completely different? As I said, I'm pretty

Re: [WSG] Fonts and standards

Kat wrote: Is there a platform-independent standards way of embedding or selecting particular fonts that your user may not have pre-installed? Or is it still the Flash text replacement/graphic/most installed fonts mix? IE is still the only one that implemented some support for the old CSS2 @f

Re: [WSG] IE shrinks/pushes margins on :hover

Have you got a link to your page? On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:47:44 +1000, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Internet Explorer for Windows renders my standards-compliant page with some errors. It renders correctly in Firefox and Safari. THE SYMPTOMS: When I hover on an a header (H2) containing an anchor

Re: [WSG] Fonts and standards

On 10/11/06, Kat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a platform-independent standards way of embedding or selectingparticular fonts that your user may not have pre-installed? Or is itstill the Flash text replacement/graphic/most installed fonts mix? Afraid it's still the latter, although there is a

[WSG] Fonts and standards

Gday, It's been a while since I peered into the dark heart of fonts and standards, and I was wondering if anything since has changed? Is there a platform-independent standards way of embedding or selecting particular fonts that your user may not have pre-installed? Or is it still the Flash t

Re: [WSG] IE shrinks/pushes margins on :hover

Internet Explorer for Windows renders my standards-compliant page with some errors. It renders correctly in Firefox and Safari. THE SYMPTOMS: When I hover on an a header (H2) containing an anchor, IE shrinks - or "pushes" - the margins of that element, so that it moves upwards and thus out of

[WSG] IE shrinks/pushes margins on :hover

Internet Explorer for Windows renders my standards-compliant page with some errors. It renders correctly in Firefox and Safari. THE SYMPTOMS: When I hover on an a header (H2) containing an anchor, IE shrinks - or "pushes" - the margins of that element, so that it moves upwards and thus out of or

Re: [WSG] Getting the layout to work and with all browsers

David Cameron wrote: Right. Decided to solve it all a better way (I think). I've installed IE7, Firefox and Opera and will redesign to meet their requirements. IE versions prior to 7 get second place now. [...] Dave Cameron. This is in reference to your uri: