I know it seems incredible, but there are many large
businesses that I know of that will only allow IE to
be used. I was as shocked as you but on further
investigation into one such organisation it seemed to
be a matter of cost as the users didn't have
permission to download any
L-J Lacey wrote:
I know it seems incredible, but there are many large
businesses that I know of that will only allow IE to
be used. I was as shocked as you but on further
investigation into one such organisation it seemed to
be a matter of cost as the users didn't have
permission to download any
Mark, I agree with you 100%. I understand why the IT
teams have to do it, but wish they'd have a little
leeway at times (ie when a non pleb wants to use
something a lot better than IE).
The IT managers who have my respect are the ones who
recognize that not
all users are created equally and
!
- Original Message
From: Mark Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Friday, 4 August, 2006 9:34:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Support for IE5/Mac? (was Browser stats)
L-J Lacey wrote:
I know it seems incredible, but there are many large
businesses that I know
I agree with all of this. You could probably find an old classic iMac on
eBay or Craigslist for not a wicked lot of money.
Cheers,
Dani
~~
Dani Nordin
the zen kitchen
Graphic and web design with a touch of green
1 Fitchburg Street, B160
Somerville, MA 02143
401.787.5178
On 8/2/06 11:57 PM, SunUp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd then have a fight on my hands with our IT
department about network points and security issues.
Security issues? From a Mac?? If they can maintain security with Windows
workstations, they don't need to worry about adding a Mac
On 8/3/06, Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SunUp wrote:
It's the Mac problem. There's no way my department's budget
will extend to purchasing an old Mac just for testing purposes,
If I was in that situation, I would either:
* refuse to support Macs and refer any compaints to the boss
Sunny wrote:
I know how to prevent v.4 browsers from getting my styles, but
how do I stop IE5/Mac from getting them?? All I know how to do is
to give them
something different, not how to exclude them entirely.
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:54:46 +1000, Geoff Pack replied:
see:
* refuse to support Macs and refer any compaints to the boss and the IT
department.
Amen to that. There's no reason to be forced to support hardware it
your department won't make allowances for testing on it. If they want
you to support it, they need to make that possible.
They couldn't
On 8/3/06, SunUp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* refuse to support Macs and refer any compaints to the boss and the IT
department.
Amen to that. There's no reason to be forced to support hardware it
your department won't make allowances for testing on it. If they want
you to support it, they
SunUp wrote:
* refuse to support Macs and refer any compaints to the boss and
the IT
department.
Amen to that. There's no reason to be forced to support hardware it
your department won't make allowances for testing on it. If they want
you to support it, they need to make that possible.
Hi,
30 mintues ago I got a call from a user of our site (a department in a
major public health institution) to say our site doesn't work for
him. I established that he is using IE5/Mac (OS9). ...
He took extreme umbrage ...
You've experienced a web developer rite of passage - phone call from
Sunny,
I'm sorry you had to go through this. If developing for IE is a genuine
issue for you, one of the things I do is I actually have a completely
craptastic Windows laptop that I test every site I create on. It was given
to me by my mother, runs Windows XP, I can't get the resolution to go
SunUp wrote:
I know how to prevent v.4 browsers from getting my styles, but how do
I stop IE5/Mac from getting them?? All I know how to do is to give
them something different, not how to exclude them entirely.
Wrap all styles you don't want IE/Mac to see in an @media rule.
Georg
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On Aug 3, 2006, at 12:23 PM, SunUp wrote:
I know how to prevent v.4 browsers from getting my styles, but how do
I stop IE5/Mac from getting them?? All I know how to do is to give
them something different, not how to exclude them entirely.
wrap your entire stylesheet in a @media statement,
Dani wrote:
If developing for IE is a genuine issue for you, ... I'm sure you could find a
cheapish one
on eBay or something similar;
Thanks Dani,
but I have IE5, IE5.5 and IE6.0 running on my PC, .. it's not that...
(although IE7 testing is proving difficult)..
It's the Mac problem.
one of the things I do is I actually have a completely
craptastic Windows laptop that I test every site I create on.
On a related note... apparently Virtual PC is now free!
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx
I haven't had time to play with it though
Ben
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Sunny wrote:
I know how to prevent v.4 browsers from getting my styles, but how do
I stop IE5/Mac from getting them?? All I know how to do is to give
them
something different, not how to exclude them entirely.
see: http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/
@import url('styles.css'); /*
SunUp wrote:
It's the Mac problem. There's no way my department's budget
will extend to purchasing an old Mac just for testing purposes,
and even if that happened, I'd then have a fight on my hands
with our IT department about network points and security issues.
If I was in that
* refuse to support Macs and refer any compaints to the boss and the IT
department.
Looks like that's the way to go, because ..
* find a friend or collegue with Mac and ask them for help
don't have any ..
* buy a cheap iMac and test at home
not in any financial position to even
Paul Collins wrote:
so when clients ask me what to build for I can justify building for
IE5 Mac.
Given that IE5/Mac is now officially obsolete, why not group it with
other dinosaurs (NN4.x et al) with flaky CSS support and filter your
CSS delivery so that browser only receives a stylesheet
Nick Gleitzman wrote:
Umm... OSX/Classic?
Ah, you want details.
Well, the web folks do use OSX/Classic... we are the select few that get
that luxury.
As for the rest of the newsroom folks, they are on older 7100's/Beige
G3's and such... Upgrading to OSX just to run classic mode means a
Steve Green wrote:
I would hardly call OSX an 'upgrade' - it's a major investment. It's
not
just the £100 or so for the OS, it's the cost of all the new
applications
like an office suite and all the other stuff you need plus the
installation
time and hassle of migrating email accounts etc.
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