[WSG] Just joined
Hi: I just joined this group. It is my hope that I can learn to be a better web designer for my own website. I am sure many of you here are much more experienced than myself. http://www.runstop.de/bennysplace/ I do not pay any money for my webspace, nor do I make any profits. I am just beginning the process of converting my website to some form of accessibility. My site does conform to w3 standards. I would consider myself an amateur designer. Feel free to look it over if you like and let me know what you think. I do, at present have a test page in development for better markup and to begin the process of accessibility. This is the only page I am working on at present. It is a copy of my sitemap page. http://www.runstop.de/bennysplace/beta.html Any suggestions or ideas are appreciated. Thanks, Shawn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Single or Double Quotes
On 4/20/06 5:53 AM, Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use double-quotes myself, mostly I suppose to be consistent with other resource pointers in my work such as anchor href and image src. Same here. -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Div DHTML Effects
If you have an easier way I would love to hear it! Keep in mind I wish to keep this cross-platform compliant. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the background image and color basically the same thing? They can both be changed through the CSS background: attribute. Lemme know what you got! Thanks! BTW: What I was doing is located at www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html - notice what the links on the right side of the page do onmouseover? I didn't want to make the div change color on hover because the div itself is not a link. As you can see it works fine as it is right now on all major browsers (except for anything on mac which I have yet to try since I don't have a mac to try it on!). Jough Leslie Riggs wrote: I realize this, but the hover effect will only change the background color of the element it is associated with. I wish to change the background or a separate element. Anyway, I just had a mindless moment - got it straightened out now. Thanks though! Jough If you mean to change the background IMAGE for an element, I've accomplished that using CSS, too, in a navigation menu, no less. The background is plain white until the link is hovered over; then a small colored background image appears behind the text. Works very nicely. If that was what you are doing, you can do it using DHTML or you can do it the easy way. Leslie Riggs ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Div DHTML Effects
On 4/20/06 10:29 AM, Joseph Bernhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html This layout has some problems in Opera 9 Mac, but anyway that nav efffect can be done with just the anchors, without effecting their container. Am I missing the point of the question? Most likely... ;-) -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Standards-compliant, reasonably accessible survey generator
Hi, Dey Alexander asked me to post this to the list. Please send replies to her - dey at deyalexander.com.au. She will send a summarise of responses for posting back to the list. I'm looking for a reasonably standards-compliant, reasonably accessible survey generator, and all the better if I can tweak the markup to make it so. I've pretty much given up on commercial hosting solutions, so am looking at installable options. For my specific needs it would have to run on a Linux/Apache web host using PHP/Perl/Python and MySQL/PostgrSQL. Thanks Geoff Deering ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Div DHTML Effects
At 07:29 AM 4/20/2006, Joseph Bernhardt wrote:
If you have an easier way I would love to hear it! Keep in mind I
wish to keep this cross-platform compliant. Correct me if I am
wrong, but aren't the background image and color basically the same
thing? They can both be changed through the CSS background:
attribute. Lemme know what you got! Thanks!
BTW: What I was doing is located at
www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html - notice what the links on the
right side of the page do onmouseover? I didn't want to make the
div change color on hover because the div itself is not a link.
Jough,
You can do exactly what you want to do by styling the anchors
themselves: make them {display: block} and then you can assign them
height width like you're doing with your divs now.
Plus they'll have an advantage over your current system: the hover
effect will occur when you're anywhere within the block, not just
over the hover text itself.
Listamatic is fun! Check it out:
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/
Paul
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[WSG] Firefox, Flash and tabbing issues
Hi, I am currently working on a site and noticedan issues with Firefox, Flash and tabbing. According to various websites, it appears that tabbing focus of a Flash movie is only obtained from the user physically clicking inside the movie with the mouse. Once the Flash movie has focus, the tabbing cycles around within the movie and never escapes unless the user uses the mouse to click outside the Flash movie. With IE6's new built-in pop-up, the tabbing is in fact even clearer than before, selecting the Flash movie as one big tab area, and requesting the user to hit space bar to set focus inside the Flash movie. Once the tabbing cycle of the Flash movie is complete, Flash successfully sets focus back to the next tab object in HTML. For once,it looks like Internet Explorer is doing something right and Firefox is not! I'd be interested in hearing of any experiences people had with thisisuue,any alternative and their pros cons. Cheers Suli
Re: [WSG] Div DHTML Effects
Cool! Thanks :) It worked like a charm. I had no idea you could use a
block display on an a. Looks like I have a lot more to learn!
Jough
Jough,
You can do exactly what you want to do by styling the anchors
themselves: make them {display: block} and then you can assign them
height width like you're doing with your divs now.
Plus they'll have an advantage over your current system: the hover
effect will occur when you're anywhere within the block, not just over
the hover text itself.
Listamatic is fun! Check it out:
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/
Paul
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Re: [WSG] Div DHTML Effects
This layout has some problems in Opera 9 Mac, With the statistics from my analytics tool you are the ONLY person using ANY version of opera on a mac that has visited my site in the past two months :), but I would like to fix it if you could tell me what's going on. Also, how does it look on safari? Thanks! Jough ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Page Break properties
Listers, Are the page-break properties widely supported? Or at least in IE6, Safari and maybe Opera (Win/Mac)? Any resources on their use besides the w3c site? TIA -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Web pages needed for testing
OMG! The PM's site has to have just about every example of what NOT to do that I can think of! Semantic Mark Up Validation Best Practice Accessibility Usability It's all there! R :o) - Original Message - From: Bojana Lalic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Web pages needed for testing http://www.pm.gov.au/ http://www.aph.gov.au/ :) -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Worthington Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:57 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Web pages needed for testing Importance: Low Can anyone suggest some poorly designed web pages for web design students to take apart? Preferably these would be from public institutions. The students at are learning web page design http://www.tomw.net.au/2005/wd/. So I need some badly designed web pages for them to run accessibility tests on. I don't want to pick on web pages from individuals, or those from small companies (unless someone wants to volunteer their own). But a government or large company is fair game. For testing we are using TAW from the Centre for the Development of Information and Communication Technologies in Asturias http://www.tawdis.net/taw3/cms/en. Previously I used Australian Government web pages as examples of bad design, but these seem to have had the obvious faults fixed (perhaps by my ex-students?). I ran a sample of 250 pages in TAW and only got a couple of errors. The next step is for the students to reformat one on pages to display on a mobile phone. For that I will probably use one on Bird Flu, as per my talk next month for the WSG http://www.tomw.net.au/2005/wd/sahana3.shtml. Tom Worthington FACS HLM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 0419 496150 Director, Tomw Communications Pty LtdABN: 17 088 714 309 PO Box 13, Belconnen ACT 2617http://www.tomw.net.au/ Director, ACS Communications Tech Board http://www.acs.org.au/ctb/ Visiting Fellow, ANU Blog: http://www.tomw.net.au/blog/atom.xml ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** IMPORTANT: This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain private or confidential information. If you think you may not be the intended recipient, or if you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not reproduce any part of this e-mail or disclose its contents to any other party. This email represents the views of the individual sender, which do not necessarily reflect those of education.au limited except where the sender expressly states otherwise. It is your responsibility to scan this email and any files transmitted with it for viruses or any other defects. education.au limited will not be liable for any loss, damage or consequence caused directly or indirectly by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Web pages needed for testing
For Aussie sites with issues, check John's slides and podcast from WE05: http://we05.com/program.cfm#f1145 -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Web pages needed for testing
For certain training, I tend to sue DIMA's web site (http://www.dimia.gov.au) If you really, really wnat some fun, try entring at http://www.dimia.gov.au/settle/booklets/booklets.htm and follow some of the links. I really love pages like http://www.dimia.gov.au/settle/booklets/select/som.htm ;) Andrew ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Web pages needed for testing
Tom Worthington wrote: Can anyone suggest some poorly designed web pages for web design students to take apart? Preferably these would be from public institutions. This might be mean of me to nominate: http://www3.travel.com.au/ Something more towards what you may be looking for. http://www.auctions.sa.gov.au/ -- Government Auctions SA Believe it or not, this was only recently redesigned. Kat ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
