[WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

2006-06-26 Thread Joe
Maybe I'm making this harder than it has to be...

The webpage in question is located at www.preleads.com/index-dev2.php

On every computer here in the office (on IE6 and FF1.5) the page displays
fine.  But, on one particular computer with IE7 installed the PreLeads logo
in the top right has about one third of the bottom cut off.  I understand
why this is happening (the padding on #header) but do not know if this is
just an IE7 problem if it is even a problem at all.  Does anyone else see
the cut-off logo?  Does anyone know what is wrong?

Thanks in advance!

Jough



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Re: [WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

2006-06-26 Thread ed radford

hi,

have bumped into this problem before, try changing the padding to  
margin.

don't know why it does it though.

take it easy.

frustrat.ed


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On 26 Jun 2006, at 20:40, Joe wrote:


Maybe I'm making this harder than it has to be...

The webpage in question is located at www.preleads.com/index-dev2.php

On every computer here in the office (on IE6 and FF1.5) the page  
displays
fine.  But, on one particular computer with IE7 installed the  
PreLeads logo
in the top right has about one third of the bottom cut off.  I  
understand
why this is happening (the padding on #header) but do not know if  
this is
just an IE7 problem if it is even a problem at all.  Does anyone  
else see

the cut-off logo?  Does anyone know what is wrong?

Thanks in advance!

Jough



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RE: [WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

2006-06-26 Thread Ted Drake
I see your issue.
Without doing the trouble shooting for you, I'd suggest invoking hasLayout
on the header. The easiest way to do this that will not mess up other
browsers is to add zoom:1 to the header and its contents one at a time until
you figure out which is the offending element.
If that doesn't work, make sure you clear the following element, whether it
is the contents or whatever.

I have found that IE7 sometimes needs hasLayout or float clearing where
other browsers are ok.

Ted
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From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Joe
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Subject: [WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

Maybe I'm making this harder than it has to be...

The webpage in question is located at www.preleads.com/index-dev2.php

On every computer here in the office (on IE6 and FF1.5) the page displays
fine.  But, on one particular computer with IE7 installed the PreLeads logo
in the top right has about one third of the bottom cut off.  I understand
why this is happening (the padding on #header) but do not know if this is
just an IE7 problem if it is even a problem at all.  Does anyone else see
the cut-off logo?  Does anyone know what is wrong?

Thanks in advance!

Jough



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Re: [WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

2006-06-26 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

David Laakso wrote:


Fine here in xp opera9, ff1.5.0.4, or ie/6.0.
Personally, I think it is a little early to worry about ie/7-- a lot can 
change between now and whenever...


IE 7beta2 is feature complete with regards to its CSS capabilities...so 
any issues you see now will be there in the final release, according to 
Microsoft's Chris Wilson and the IE team


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RE: [WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

2006-06-26 Thread Ted Drake
It is feature complete, but they have fixed many bugs that were recognized
after the beta2 launch. So, it will be better than beta 2.

It does mean that generated content and stuff like that will not be in the
final release.

Ted
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David Laakso wrote:

 Fine here in xp opera9, ff1.5.0.4, or ie/6.0.
 Personally, I think it is a little early to worry about ie/7-- a lot can 
 change between now and whenever...

IE 7beta2 is feature complete with regards to its CSS capabilities...so 
any issues you see now will be there in the final release, according to 
Microsoft's Chris Wilson and the IE team

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RE: [WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

2006-06-26 Thread Joe
Ted,

Thanks for the suggestion - I'll try it out when I get a little more time.
Don't worry about digging into it yourself as it's not that big of an issue.
Thanks again!

Jough


I have cured things like this in IE7 by checking hasLayout and clearing
issues.  I haven't had the chance to look at your particular code.





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RE: [WSG] Opera 9 and standards support

2006-06-26 Thread Samuel Richardson
 
Yes, I had a similar problem last time I tried to install Opera. All my
pages were being rendered with some strange script font instead of Arial or
Verdana, it was totally unusable. I tried reassigning the fonts through the
settings but it made no difference, I couldn't track down any posts online
about other people that had the same problem.

I'm on Windows XP home version, all service packs installed. I also have the
Adobe Font Folio installed, so in excess of 1000 fonts or so.



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 Not related to a site, but to the application itself: admittedly, I have
 quite a large number of fonts installed on my WinXP box...but for some
 reason, Opera 9 (and even 8.5) somehow get confused and think
 Copperplate is actually Verdana, and a rather gothic looking blackletter
 font is Tahoma. In short, it chooses the completely wrong fonts (both
 for page display and UI itself). Is this a known issue?

Hmm, there was a font selection problem for machines with more than
1024 fonts installed; but that was supposed to have been fixed in the
Windows version (see http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/windows/900/
right at the bottom).

You could try the 9.01 weekly build and see if that helps -
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

One note is that if you had a beta installed, I've found it's a good
idea to uninstall that beta before installing the final version (as
opposed to upgrading over the top).

cheers,

Ben

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Re: [WSG] Opera 9 and standards support

2006-06-26 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Samuel Richardson wrote:


I'm on Windows XP home version, all service packs installed. I also have the
Adobe Font Folio installed, so in excess of 1000 fonts or so.


Still OT, but: yes, I have about 3000 fonts installed, and David 
mentioned that this may be an issue (though they thought they had fixed 
it). I'm going to try using something like Adobe Type Manager, possibly 
disabling some sets when not in use...


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Re: [WSG] Opera 9 and standards support

2006-06-26 Thread Andy

Andy Johnson-Cooper

Opera Build 9  8490
Internet Explorer 7.0.5358.0
Mozilla  Firefox  15.04

Hi I use the above browsers to check my web designing

Acid2 is a test page, written to help browser vendors ensure proper 
support for Web and related standards in their products.


http://webstandards.org/action/acid2

Opera is the only browser so far to pass this test ,  Standards 
compliant or  reference rendering. both faces of the test are correct, 
however the other 2 browsers are not normally correct. seems to me all 
the hard work put in to developing standards, many long hours given free 
and the likes of Microsoft dont seem to take much notice.


I design using xhtml and CSS there are so many issues across browsers 
but my favorite one now to use is Opera.


Please give Opera a try

Thanks






Paul Bennett wrote:


Holy crap!

I'm not a personal user of Opera, but this attitude alone could change my mind. 
Kudos to you, David and to your company. If other (*cough* microsoft *cough*) 
browser makers would take this sort of position in supporting developers 
there'd be a lot less grief on the web.

Well done, Opera.

Paul


 

I hope you all like Opera 9.  As always if you have issues in Opera on  
your site feel free to contact me and we will help you find the cause of  
the problem.  If there is anything that Opera doesn't support that you  
come across when writing scripts then I'll also see what I can do.  With  
Opera 9 we've added DOM Level 2 Style, contentEditable and DesignMode  
which I think will be useful additions for many designers and support for  
Web forms 2.0 which is a peek into the future of what we are trying to  
achieve with the WHAT WG along with Mozilla and Apple.
   




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