Re: [WSG] Accessability Reading Of WebPages Need Help

2006-09-28 Thread Christian Heilmann

 now he got php, and i have got easy php which you can download at
 http://www.easyphp.com

BAD LINK ALERT!

It's http://www.easyphp.org/

Please be careful when posting links in your messages, we don't need
the whole WSG list accidentally giving easy money to spammy sites.


Valid point, but without a viable alternative nothing but condescending.
A free non spammy LAMP installation that is very up to date can be
found at http://www.apachefriends.org

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Re: [WSG] Problem with css dropdown menus

2006-09-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:


http://www.addictivemedia.com.au/clients/test/test.php

You will see that if youo move the mosue over the Services item, 
the dropdown that appears lies behind the Useful links item. I 
would rather have it infront of the Useful links item.


I actually thought that the z-index would allow me to move the 
dropdown to the top, but that doesn't work.


Yes, it does, but you're adding 'position: relative; z-index: 1;' to all
states, so it has no effect on the stacking.

Restyle it so only the hovered state is positioned and stacked...

#primaryNav li{position: static /*default*/;}

#primaryNav li.Over,#primaryNav li:hover {position: relative; z-index: 1;}

...and the dropdown is automatically stacked in front when it appears.

It won't look much different though, since the dropdown drop down
below the two top-links. If you want the dropdown to *cover* the
top-links, then you also have to move it up.

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Re: [WSG] Accessability Reading Of WebPages Need Help

2006-09-28 Thread Ross Bruniges
i love the apachefriends installation - it rocks!

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  now he got php, and i have got easy php which you can download at
  http://www.easyphp.com

 BAD LINK ALERT!

 It's http://www.easyphp.org/

 Please be careful when posting links in your messages, we don't need
 the whole WSG list accidentally giving easy money to spammy sites.

Valid point, but without a viable alternative nothing but condescending.
A free non spammy LAMP installation that is very up to date can be
found at http://www.apachefriends.org

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Re: [WSG] Accessability Reading Of WebPages Need Help

2006-09-28 Thread Christian Heilmann

 Please be careful when posting links in your messages, we don't need
 the whole WSG list accidentally giving easy money to spammy sites.

Valid point, but without a viable alternative nothing but condescending.
A free non spammy LAMP installation that is very up to date can be
found at http://www.apachefriends.org


Sorry if that sounded like chastising Christian, it wasn't meant to.
Just a good mailing list etiquette reminder: If you attack something,
provide proof why and give an alternative.

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[WSG] CSS flyout menu

2006-09-28 Thread John 'Max' Maxwell

Hi All,

Back again - what a day - after being strict with myself about 100% 
valid HTML, CSS and access on ALL designs that leave my studio this year 
... I realised my own site was in a bit of a pickle - how embarrassing! 
Anyway - all done - though I will have to go back to statcounter to get 
the valid version of their code.


Anyways - reason I am here - I have just been working on a CSS flyout 
menu - please see www.project.ex16.co.uk and I wondered if you guys 
could try it out on different platforms for me to see how it behaves. 
Their is sub nav available under the senior and junior sections (hopefully).


Many thanks,

Max.




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[WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (29/9/06)

2006-09-28 Thread russ - maxdesign
This is a one-way list for WSG Announcements

This email covers:
- Links for light reading
- WSG and Industry events
- Industry related Jobs (2 new jobs this week)

If you have an event, resource or relevant job you'd like posted, please let
me know.

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LINKS FOR LIGHT READING
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This weeks links for light reading are also available here:
http://www.maxdesign.com.au/2006/09/29/some-links-98/

No More IE6 Background Flicker
http://www.hedgerwow.com/360/bugs/dom-fix-ie6-background-image-flicker.html

Javascript crossfader
http://www.brandspankingnew.net/specials/crossfader/bsn.Crossfader.html

The Importance of User Experience- the Poster!
http://experiencedynamics.blogs.com/site_search_usability/2006/09/the_import
ance_.html

Microformats Cheat Sheet
http://suda.co.uk/projects/microformats/cheatsheet/

Microformats Bookmarklet
http://leftlogic.com/info/articles/microformats_bookmarklet

More Microformats highlighting
http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/more-microformats-highlighting

12 Lessons for Those Afraid of CSS and Standards
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/12lessonsCSSandstandards/

Long Live the Q Tag
http://alistapart.com/articles/qtag

IE 7 - is catching up good enough?
http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/09/19/ie-7-is-catching-up-good-enough/

The Web API Working Group has released an updated Working Draft of The
XMLHttpRequest Object
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-XMLHttpRequest-20060927/

Space Explorer's Flickre stream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/spaceexplorer/


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WSG AND INDUSTRY EVENTS
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October Web Standards Group meeting (Sydney) - 19 October

A joint meeting with the WSG and Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group
The Web - a blind perspective - Lee Kumutat, Training and Braille Products
Manager from Quantum Technology will be talking about the web from a blind
perspective.
The mobile web - what you need to know right now
Dominique Lee will be exploring the mobile web, where it is at and where it
is going and what you need to know right now!
Sponsored by Access Testing
http://webstandardsgroup.org/meetings/index.cfm?event_id=74
RSVP: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


IDEA2006 (Seattle) 23-24 October

IDEA 2006 brings together a diverse set of designers, creators, and
researchers addressing a fundamental challenge we're facing today - how to
let everyday people take true advantage of the overwhelming mass of
information that floods their lives.
http://www.ideaconference.org/


Open Standards (Sydney) - 25-27 October

OASIS Open Standards 2006 is the fourth annual Asia Pacific event where both
management and technical professionals from the business and government
sector can gather to share expertise and promote
open discussion on the latest technologies, applications and services
supporting the global e-Business community.
http://www.open-standards.com/


Web Accessibility Workshops

* Sydney - 2  November
* Canberra - 14  November
These full-day workshops run by Vision Australia, are targeted at
web-development team leaders, corporate communications professionals and
business managers, along with content authors, web programmers and designers
and web contract managers. These workshops provide a thorough overview of
accessibility issues and how to address them. They cover the World Wide Web
Consortium's Content Accessibility Guidelines and their implementation and a
consideration of assessment tools and techniques. Details and registration:
http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/ais/webworkshops/
http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/ais/webworkshops/


Writing for the Web Workshop (Melbourne) - 2 November

This practical workshop run by Vision Australia focuses on enhancing the
usability and accessibility of your web content and will teach you how to
communicate effectively with your readers.
Course Outline: http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=685
http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=685
Registration details: http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=608


OZeWAI 2006 (Melbourne) - November 29 and December 1

Web Adaptability Conference 2006: Are we making the best progress possible?
La Trobe University Melbourne.
Adaptability is about ensuring that everyone who wants to access digital
content can do so if they have appropriate devices and telecommunications.
Currently this is not the case - large Web pages rarely fit on small
hand-held device screens, let alone phone screens, and most interesting
sites are not accessible to people with adaptive tchnologies because the
resources are not well-formed.
http://www.ozewai.org/2006/index.html

There will be WSG October/November meetings (Brisbane, Melbourne, London)
announced soon.



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[WSG] Embedded Media for IE and Gecko

2006-09-28 Thread Mike Pepper
Hi all,

Long time since I posted for help, however...

I'm embedding the Windows Media Player in a site and want to play a wmv
file. My original code for XHTML 1.0 compliant markup is -

object id=winmedia type=video/x-ms-wmv data=full URL width=320
height=285 standby=Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components...
param name=src value=full URL /
param name=autostart value=0 /
param name=controller value=true /
/object

As far as I know, this should work. It does in IE but FF 1.5.0.7 coughs and
dies sporadically and takes an age to initialise and load.

I've Googled for definitive resolutions on this (as well as hitting
Mozilla's FAQ page) but I'm fast becoming disillusioned.

If I may, I need an accurate, definitive resolution to this ASAP.

Many thanks,

Mike

Accessible Web Developer
Internet SEO and Marketing Analyst
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Re: [WSG] CSS flyout menu

2006-09-28 Thread David Dorward
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 07:48:45PM +0100, John 'Max' Maxwell wrote:
 Anyways - reason I am here - I have just been working on a CSS flyout 
 menu - please see www.project.ex16.co.uk

Submenus lack keyboard access, and menus vanish unless the mouse is
dragged diagonally to the submenu item instead of along and then down.

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Re: [WSG] CSS flyout menu

2006-09-28 Thread John 'Max' Maxwell

John 'Max' Maxwell wrote:

Hi All,

Back again - what a day - after being strict with myself about 100% 
valid HTML, CSS and access on ALL designs that leave my studio this 
year ... I realised my own site was in a bit of a pickle - how 
embarrassing! Anyway - all done - though I will have to go back to 
statcounter to get the valid version of their code.


Anyways - reason I am here - I have just been working on a CSS flyout 
menu - please see www.project.ex16.co.uk and I wondered if you guys 
could try it out on different platforms for me to see how it behaves. 
Their is sub nav available under the senior and junior sections 
(hopefully).


Many thanks,

Max.




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Thanks for the replies (joke) - will be back soon with same plus IE hacks!!

:-(


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Re: [WSG] CSS flyout menu

2006-09-28 Thread ~davidLaakso

John 'Max' Maxwell wrote:

John 'Max' Maxwell wrote:
www.project.ex16.co.uk Their is sub nav available under the senior 
and junior sections (hopefully).

Max.

No flyout in xp ie/6.0. Thirteen captures (linux/mac/win2k/xp):
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=287855
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Re: [WSG] The usability of a frame-style layout

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Yeaney

 I/FRAMES weren't removed because they are frames, I/FRAMES became
obsolete by OBJECT, which offer and need the same configuration (width,
height, overflow). In my opinion IMG should have too.
 In XHTML 2.0 the function of OBJECT as I/FRAME becomes obsolete by
TAG, because you'll be able to give external content to any element.


Point well takenit was not my intent to omit the OBJECT tag -
thanks for the correction!!!

Mike


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[WSG] Yahoo Javascript Library - Word of Warning

2006-09-28 Thread Samuel Richardson








Sorry for the slightly off topic post but I know a couple of
people from the yahoo library read this mailing list and it is tangentially related
to web standards as it brings up scary dialog boxes to the user.



Weve been using the yahoo libraries throughout our
website but noticed that when theyre used on a particular secure (https)
page of the website we were getting a page warning (do you want to load non
secure elements on this page). A bit of packet sniffing later it turns out that
through out the yahoo libraries they are making calls to images hosted
externally. It seems the libraries are trying to detect https connections but
in this case are failing, causing the warning.



They could be doing this to cache images between sites using
the YUI libraries, however if youre the paranoid type then they could be
using it to track usage / visitors to your site. Either way its quite
interesting and if you are trying to track down the elusive secure and
non-secure warning message then this could be it.





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Re: [WSG] CSS flyout menu

2006-09-28 Thread Al Sparber

From: David Dorward


Submenus lack keyboard access


That could be desirable if the site is engineered in a certain way.



and menus vanish unless the mouse is
dragged diagonally to the submenu item instead of along and then 
down.


That makes the menu totally unusable, in my opinion. Tis the Achilles 
heel of pure CSS menus.


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Re: [WSG] The usability of a frame-style layout

2006-09-28 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:15:47 +1000, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
 [...]
 However, with css we now have the ability to imitate frames in an
 accessible and search-engine friendly way for browsers that support
 it. So the question comes back to usability (and maybe aesthetics):
 wouldn't it be more user-friendly to always make the primary
 navigation available to users, no matter what part of the page they
 are looking at?

Interesting concept Andreas. Your idea has already been realized
to a degree in Opera.

Opera has a navigation bar that users can turn on or off. It sits 
across the top of a page, and is populated by LINK elements in the 
HEAD section of a document.

The navigation is limited to predefined keywords, like Home, Index,
Search, Glossary, Help, Previous ...

You may also be interested in PPK's revamped site. See for example
the Blogs page, and activate the show site navigation link on
the left. Is this what you had in mind? -

http://www.quirksmode.org/blogs.shtml

Cordially,
David
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