Re: [WSG] Accessability Reading Of WebPages Need Help
now he got php, and i have got easy php which you can download at http://www.easyphp.com BAD LINK ALERT! It's http://www.easyphp.org/ Please be careful when posting links in your messages, we don't need the whole WSG list accidentally giving easy money to spammy sites. Valid point, but without a viable alternative nothing but condescending. A free non spammy LAMP installation that is very up to date can be found at http://www.apachefriends.org -- Chris Heilmann Book: http://www.beginningjavascript.com Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Problem with css dropdown menus
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: http://www.addictivemedia.com.au/clients/test/test.php You will see that if youo move the mosue over the Services item, the dropdown that appears lies behind the Useful links item. I would rather have it infront of the Useful links item. I actually thought that the z-index would allow me to move the dropdown to the top, but that doesn't work. Yes, it does, but you're adding 'position: relative; z-index: 1;' to all states, so it has no effect on the stacking. Restyle it so only the hovered state is positioned and stacked... #primaryNav li{position: static /*default*/;} #primaryNav li.Over,#primaryNav li:hover {position: relative; z-index: 1;} ...and the dropdown is automatically stacked in front when it appears. It won't look much different though, since the dropdown drop down below the two top-links. If you want the dropdown to *cover* the top-links, then you also have to move it up. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessability Reading Of WebPages Need Help
i love the apachefriends installation - it rocks! - Original Message From: Christian Heilmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, 28 September, 2006 9:04:07 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessability Reading Of WebPages Need Help now he got php, and i have got easy php which you can download at http://www.easyphp.com BAD LINK ALERT! It's http://www.easyphp.org/ Please be careful when posting links in your messages, we don't need the whole WSG list accidentally giving easy money to spammy sites. Valid point, but without a viable alternative nothing but condescending. A free non spammy LAMP installation that is very up to date can be found at http://www.apachefriends.org -- Chris Heilmann Book: http://www.beginningjavascript.com Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. The New Version is radically easier to use – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessability Reading Of WebPages Need Help
Please be careful when posting links in your messages, we don't need the whole WSG list accidentally giving easy money to spammy sites. Valid point, but without a viable alternative nothing but condescending. A free non spammy LAMP installation that is very up to date can be found at http://www.apachefriends.org Sorry if that sounded like chastising Christian, it wasn't meant to. Just a good mailing list etiquette reminder: If you attack something, provide proof why and give an alternative. -- Chris Heilmann Book: http://www.beginningjavascript.com Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] CSS flyout menu
Hi All, Back again - what a day - after being strict with myself about 100% valid HTML, CSS and access on ALL designs that leave my studio this year ... I realised my own site was in a bit of a pickle - how embarrassing! Anyway - all done - though I will have to go back to statcounter to get the valid version of their code. Anyways - reason I am here - I have just been working on a CSS flyout menu - please see www.project.ex16.co.uk and I wondered if you guys could try it out on different platforms for me to see how it behaves. Their is sub nav available under the senior and junior sections (hopefully). Many thanks, Max. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (29/9/06)
This is a one-way list for WSG Announcements This email covers: - Links for light reading - WSG and Industry events - Industry related Jobs (2 new jobs this week) If you have an event, resource or relevant job you'd like posted, please let me know. -- LINKS FOR LIGHT READING -- This weeks links for light reading are also available here: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/2006/09/29/some-links-98/ No More IE6 Background Flicker http://www.hedgerwow.com/360/bugs/dom-fix-ie6-background-image-flicker.html Javascript crossfader http://www.brandspankingnew.net/specials/crossfader/bsn.Crossfader.html The Importance of User Experience- the Poster! http://experiencedynamics.blogs.com/site_search_usability/2006/09/the_import ance_.html Microformats Cheat Sheet http://suda.co.uk/projects/microformats/cheatsheet/ Microformats Bookmarklet http://leftlogic.com/info/articles/microformats_bookmarklet More Microformats highlighting http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/more-microformats-highlighting 12 Lessons for Those Afraid of CSS and Standards http://www.alistapart.com/articles/12lessonsCSSandstandards/ Long Live the Q Tag http://alistapart.com/articles/qtag IE 7 - is catching up good enough? http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/09/19/ie-7-is-catching-up-good-enough/ The Web API Working Group has released an updated Working Draft of The XMLHttpRequest Object http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-XMLHttpRequest-20060927/ Space Explorer's Flickre stream http://www.flickr.com/photos/spaceexplorer/ -- WSG AND INDUSTRY EVENTS -- October Web Standards Group meeting (Sydney) - 19 October A joint meeting with the WSG and Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group The Web - a blind perspective - Lee Kumutat, Training and Braille Products Manager from Quantum Technology will be talking about the web from a blind perspective. The mobile web - what you need to know right now Dominique Lee will be exploring the mobile web, where it is at and where it is going and what you need to know right now! Sponsored by Access Testing http://webstandardsgroup.org/meetings/index.cfm?event_id=74 RSVP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IDEA2006 (Seattle) 23-24 October IDEA 2006 brings together a diverse set of designers, creators, and researchers addressing a fundamental challenge we're facing today - how to let everyday people take true advantage of the overwhelming mass of information that floods their lives. http://www.ideaconference.org/ Open Standards (Sydney) - 25-27 October OASIS Open Standards 2006 is the fourth annual Asia Pacific event where both management and technical professionals from the business and government sector can gather to share expertise and promote open discussion on the latest technologies, applications and services supporting the global e-Business community. http://www.open-standards.com/ Web Accessibility Workshops * Sydney - 2 November * Canberra - 14 November These full-day workshops run by Vision Australia, are targeted at web-development team leaders, corporate communications professionals and business managers, along with content authors, web programmers and designers and web contract managers. These workshops provide a thorough overview of accessibility issues and how to address them. They cover the World Wide Web Consortium's Content Accessibility Guidelines and their implementation and a consideration of assessment tools and techniques. Details and registration: http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/ais/webworkshops/ http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/ais/webworkshops/ Writing for the Web Workshop (Melbourne) - 2 November This practical workshop run by Vision Australia focuses on enhancing the usability and accessibility of your web content and will teach you how to communicate effectively with your readers. Course Outline: http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=685 http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=685 Registration details: http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=608 OZeWAI 2006 (Melbourne) - November 29 and December 1 Web Adaptability Conference 2006: Are we making the best progress possible? La Trobe University Melbourne. Adaptability is about ensuring that everyone who wants to access digital content can do so if they have appropriate devices and telecommunications. Currently this is not the case - large Web pages rarely fit on small hand-held device screens, let alone phone screens, and most interesting sites are not accessible to people with adaptive tchnologies because the resources are not well-formed. http://www.ozewai.org/2006/index.html There will be WSG October/November meetings (Brisbane, Melbourne, London) announced soon. -- JOBS
[WSG] Embedded Media for IE and Gecko
Hi all, Long time since I posted for help, however... I'm embedding the Windows Media Player in a site and want to play a wmv file. My original code for XHTML 1.0 compliant markup is - object id=winmedia type=video/x-ms-wmv data=full URL width=320 height=285 standby=Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components... param name=src value=full URL / param name=autostart value=0 / param name=controller value=true / /object As far as I know, this should work. It does in IE but FF 1.5.0.7 coughs and dies sporadically and takes an age to initialise and load. I've Googled for definitive resolutions on this (as well as hitting Mozilla's FAQ page) but I'm fast becoming disillusioned. If I may, I need an accurate, definitive resolution to this ASAP. Many thanks, Mike Accessible Web Developer Internet SEO and Marketing Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seowebsitepromotion..com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS flyout menu
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 07:48:45PM +0100, John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Anyways - reason I am here - I have just been working on a CSS flyout menu - please see www.project.ex16.co.uk Submenus lack keyboard access, and menus vanish unless the mouse is dragged diagonally to the submenu item instead of along and then down. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS flyout menu
John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Hi All, Back again - what a day - after being strict with myself about 100% valid HTML, CSS and access on ALL designs that leave my studio this year ... I realised my own site was in a bit of a pickle - how embarrassing! Anyway - all done - though I will have to go back to statcounter to get the valid version of their code. Anyways - reason I am here - I have just been working on a CSS flyout menu - please see www.project.ex16.co.uk and I wondered if you guys could try it out on different platforms for me to see how it behaves. Their is sub nav available under the senior and junior sections (hopefully). Many thanks, Max. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Thanks for the replies (joke) - will be back soon with same plus IE hacks!! :-( *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS flyout menu
John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: www.project.ex16.co.uk Their is sub nav available under the senior and junior sections (hopefully). Max. No flyout in xp ie/6.0. Thirteen captures (linux/mac/win2k/xp): http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=287855 ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] The usability of a frame-style layout
I/FRAMES weren't removed because they are frames, I/FRAMES became obsolete by OBJECT, which offer and need the same configuration (width, height, overflow). In my opinion IMG should have too. In XHTML 2.0 the function of OBJECT as I/FRAME becomes obsolete by TAG, because you'll be able to give external content to any element. Point well takenit was not my intent to omit the OBJECT tag - thanks for the correction!!! Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Yahoo Javascript Library - Word of Warning
Sorry for the slightly off topic post but I know a couple of people from the yahoo library read this mailing list and it is tangentially related to web standards as it brings up scary dialog boxes to the user. Weve been using the yahoo libraries throughout our website but noticed that when theyre used on a particular secure (https) page of the website we were getting a page warning (do you want to load non secure elements on this page). A bit of packet sniffing later it turns out that through out the yahoo libraries they are making calls to images hosted externally. It seems the libraries are trying to detect https connections but in this case are failing, causing the warning. They could be doing this to cache images between sites using the YUI libraries, however if youre the paranoid type then they could be using it to track usage / visitors to your site. Either way its quite interesting and if you are trying to track down the elusive secure and non-secure warning message then this could be it. -- Samuel Richardson 0405 472 748 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] CSS flyout menu
From: David Dorward Submenus lack keyboard access That could be desirable if the site is engineered in a certain way. and menus vanish unless the mouse is dragged diagonally to the submenu item instead of along and then down. That makes the menu totally unusable, in my opinion. Tis the Achilles heel of pure CSS menus. -- Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] The usability of a frame-style layout
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:15:47 +1000, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: [...] However, with css we now have the ability to imitate frames in an accessible and search-engine friendly way for browsers that support it. So the question comes back to usability (and maybe aesthetics): wouldn't it be more user-friendly to always make the primary navigation available to users, no matter what part of the page they are looking at? Interesting concept Andreas. Your idea has already been realized to a degree in Opera. Opera has a navigation bar that users can turn on or off. It sits across the top of a page, and is populated by LINK elements in the HEAD section of a document. The navigation is limited to predefined keywords, like Home, Index, Search, Glossary, Help, Previous ... You may also be interested in PPK's revamped site. See for example the Blogs page, and activate the show site navigation link on the left. Is this what you had in mind? - http://www.quirksmode.org/blogs.shtml Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***