Re: [WSG] Entity Name vs Entity Number

2006-10-19 Thread Lachlan Hunt

John Faulds wrote:

http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/10/char-refs


Looks like that article's gone missing.


AH!!!  I have no idea what has happened to it, it was definitely 
there when I sent the link.  I'm sure I've got a back up, so I can 
restore it, I'll see what I can do.


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Re: [WSG] Entity Name vs Entity Number

2006-10-19 Thread Lachlan Hunt

Lachlan Hunt wrote:

John Faulds wrote:

http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/10/char-refs


Looks like that article's gone missing.


AH!!!  I have no idea what has happened to it, it was definitely 
there when I sent the link.  I'm sure I've got a back up, so I can 
restore it, I'll see what I can do.


OK, I can stop panicking now, the crisis is over!  Somehow that post and 
several others had been marked as private and were only visible to me 
cause I was still logged in to my CMS.  I still have no idea how or when 
that happened, but never mind, the universe is back in order now – 
nothing has been deleted from my site. :-)


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[WSG] problem with table 100% height in MAC

2006-10-19 Thread Dushyant Patel
hi all,i am getting problem of 100% height in IE MAC,it getting strached more that page height, almost doubbled. please help me what to do for that,.Thanks  Dushyant Patel 
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Re: [WSG] Displaying and linebreaking long URLs?

2006-10-19 Thread James Ellis
Mike, have a look at this:http://www.quirksmode.org/oddsandends/wbr.htmlCheersJames

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Re: [WSG] Displaying and linebreaking long URLs?

2006-10-19 Thread Curby

On 10/19/06, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mike,
have a look at this:
http://www.quirksmode.org/oddsandends/wbr.html


Ooh, so there IS in fact a tag for doing soft breaks.  It's a shame
that there's no truly generic solution, as Op9 and Saf2 still don't
support wbr, and Ff1.5 still doesn't support shy.

Aside, #8203; seems to render as a space in Ff1.5.  It would be nice
if it had zero width. =|

Thanks for the link!

--Mike


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RE: [WSG] Displaying and linebreaking long URLs?

2006-10-19 Thread Berman, Pamela D
 
 Hi, I'm looking for a good way to display long URLs in full.  
 The page has an elastic, somewhat fluid width, so the URL 
 should take up as much of the available width as possible 
 before wrapping.  Of course, the URL may disrupt the layout 
 if it didn't wrap at all.  

I've had the same problem recently with references for an e-book. Chapter 5 has 
really long URLs 
http://iit.bloomu.edu/Spring2006_eBook_files/chapter5.htm#h5_1_r

In Firefox, elements don't stretch like they do in IE so the URL breaks out of 
the container. I looked into the wbr tag but decided not to use it for a number 
of reasons.

 The question: how can this be handled in the final HTML/CSS?  
 It would be nice if the breaks didn't appear unless required. 
  While HTML allows for insert a line break and insert a 
 space that doesn't break, it doesn't seem to be able to do 
 something like don't break between these two chars unless 
 you really need to. I know about soft-hyphens, but I believe 
 their support, esp. with Gecko browsers, is spotty.

I used the IE hack to word-wrap something similar to what Al mentioned but 
there is no need to class anything. This hack was mentioned as a way to keep IE 
from stretching any element.

/* IE long URL hack */
/* Hide it from IE Mac \*/
* html body
{
word-wrap: break-word;
}
/* End comment for Mac */

Then I added a class for potentially long strings of characters with overflow: 
auto; which doesn't work in IE but I don't have to worry about IE because the 
URLs are going to break anyway. 

In every browser I tested except for Netscape (in Gecko mode), it provides a 
horizontal scroll bar only if needed. In Netscape (as Firefox), it looks awful 
(both scroll bars appear) and I haven't found CSS fix for it yet. I'm still 
looking when I have the time.

Pam


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Re: [WSG] Entity Name vs Entity Number

2006-10-19 Thread Mihael Zadravec
Using Notepad++ - View / encode UTF-8 than save.Using Dreamweaver - Edit / Preferences :: Default encodingby!On 10/19/06, TuteC 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I tried doing so just yesterday with one of my sites, but it didn´t
work. I had the meta http-equiv and the http header, with characterencoding utf-8, but in my FF in Win XP it replaced with '?' any nonASCII character. A person told me that as Win XP runs on Latin-1, thesite will work if I use tht encoding, but then I got surprised on how
many times I heard that it´s better using UTF-8 and just enter thereal characters! :-)Did I miss something, did anything wrong? Or it is just the way itworks, no Win allowed?Thanks a lot;Eugenio.
On 10/19/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even better than using references is to encode the file as UTF-8 and just enter the real characters.
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Re: [WSG] IE6 - IE7

2006-10-19 Thread Christian Montoya

On 10/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rahul Gonsalves wrote:
I will not be allowing IE7 to be
 installed on my main computer, until most of the bugs have been worked
 out, and a couple of security updates have been applied :-).



You are doing this even though IE 7 is supposed to be much safer than
IE 6? I mean, I know it probably won't be more stable, but safe? IE 6?
Hmmm?

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Re: [WSG] Entity Name vs Entity Number

2006-10-19 Thread TuteC

Well, thank you both!
So I´m sure it was a problem of literally encoding the file.
Thanks again;
Eugenio.

On 10/19/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You need to make sure the file is actually encoded as UTF-8.  You can't
just label it as such and expect it to be so.  That's like getting a
block of milk chocolate, sticking a dark chocolate label on it and then
wondering why it still tastes like milk chocolate!

http://lachy.id.au/log/2004/12/guide-to-unicode-part-1
http://lachy.id.au/log/2004/12/guide-to-unicode-part-2
http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/01/guide-to-unicode-part-3

As for the meta element, there is a much better way.  Using the meta
element for specifying the encoding in HTML is considered bad practice
and it will not work in XHTML.

http://lachy.id.au/log/2006/01/content-type

 A person told me that as Win XP runs on Latin-1, the  site will work
 if I use tht encoding,

Latin-1 refers to ISO-8859-1.  Windows actually uses Windows-1252 as its
default encoding, which is a superset of ISO-8859-1.

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Re: [WSG] Displaying and linebreaking long URLs?

2006-10-19 Thread Curby

On 10/19/06, Curby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 10/19/06, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mike,
 have a look at this:
 http://www.quirksmode.org/oddsandends/wbr.html

Ooh, so there IS in fact a tag for doing soft breaks.  It's a shame
that there's no truly generic solution, as Op9 and Saf2 still don't
support wbr, and Ff1.5 still doesn't support shy.


It seems wbr is only in HTML3.  It breaks validation for xhtml 1.0
(and probably for html 4.01 though i didn't check that). #8203
doesn't render as a space for some fonts in Ff1.5 (tested with Courier
font on Mac and Win), but even IE7 displays an ugly placeholder glyph
instead of giving it its intended zero width.

--Mike


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RE: [WSG] Entity Name vs Entity Number

2006-10-19 Thread James Oppenheim


Well thanks everyone, especially Lachlan. I will have a look at all the links.Cheers. Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:39:44 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Entity Name vs Entity Number  Well, thank you both! So I´m sure it was a problem of literally encoding the file. Thanks again; Eugenio.  On 10/19/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   You need to make sure the file is actually encoded as UTF-8.  You can't  just label it as such and expect it to be so.  That's like getting a  block of milk chocolate, sticking a dark chocolate label on it and then  wondering why it still tastes like milk chocolate!   http://lachy.id.au/log/2004/12/guide-to-unicode-part-1  http://lachy.id.au/log/2004/12/guide-to-unicode-part-2  http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/01/guide-to-unicode-part-3   As for the meta element, there is a much better way.  Using the meta  element for specifying the encoding in HTML is considered bad practice  and it will not work in XHTML.   http://lachy.id.au/log/2006/01/content-typeA person told me that as Win XP runs on Latin-1, the  site will work   if I use tht encoding,   Latin-1 refers to ISO-8859-1.  Windows actually uses Windows-1252 as its  default encoding, which is a superset of ISO-8859-1.   --  Lachlan Hunt  http://lachy.id.au/   *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Be one of the first to try  Windows Live Mail.

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Re: [WSG] IE6 - IE7

2006-10-19 Thread libwebdev
At 06:20 PM 19/10/2006 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote: Rahul Gonsalves wrote: I will not be allowing IE7 to be  installed on my main computer, until most of the bugs have been worked
  out, and a couple of security updates have been applied :-).You are doing this even though IE 7 is supposed to be much safer thanIE 6? I mean, I know it probably won't be more stable, but safe? IE 6?
Hmmm?there is a vulnerability already:http://secunia.com/advisories/22477/lib.

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RE: [WSG] IE6 - IE7

2006-10-19 Thread Samuel Richardson

The first security exploit has already come out for IE7. It would be a wise
idea to hold off for a few weeks at least before installing.


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Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 - IE7

On 10/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rahul Gonsalves wrote:
 I will not be allowing IE7 to be
  installed on my main computer, until most of the bugs have been worked
  out, and a couple of security updates have been applied :-).


You are doing this even though IE 7 is supposed to be much safer than
IE 6? I mean, I know it probably won't be more stable, but safe? IE 6?
Hmmm?

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[WSG] Combined rounded and squared corner tabs

2006-10-19 Thread TomGou
Title: Message



Hi All,

Anyone have any ideas on a good 
approach to having rounded corner tabs like those created using sliding doors 
along with the "current" tab having squared corners and about twice as tall as 
the other tabs?

I've got a working model, but don't 
particularly care for the amount of CSS I used, though I couldn't figure an easy 
way to not use relative positioning due to the size differences in the tabs, 
having used a lot of sliding doors styling to work 
itout.

Anyone have any good sites that 
demonstrate this use of tabs?

-Tom

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[WSG] McFarlane Prize Finalist seeks full-time Web 2.? programmer

2006-10-19 Thread Brad Pollard
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Re: [WSG] IE6 - IE7

2006-10-19 Thread Serdar Kılıç
I ran their test and it said that my system didn't appear to be vulnerable (IE7  XP SP 2), I might add that I'm completely patched including one fix from this morning.On 20/10/06, 
Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The first security exploit has already come out for IE7. It would be a wiseidea to hold off for a few weeks at least before installing.-- Cheers,Serdar Kilic
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Re: [WSG] McFarlane Prize Finalist seeks ...ADMIN

2006-10-19 Thread russ - maxdesign
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