Re: [WSG] Listamatic Centred horizontal list navbars not working

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Hrvoje Markovic wrote:
I'm seeing this glitch in Opera 9, IE7, FF 2... On both 
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal16.htm AND 
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal27.htm I see a one 
character wide whitespace (bluespace because of the bg color) before 
every link, except the first one. Is there a way to fix this?


Not pixel-perfect when font-resizing is added into the mix.

On...

...you can add...
#navcontainer ul li a {margin-right: -.2em;}

...and on...

#navcontainer li a {margin-right: -.2em;}
...will pretty much do the trick.

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RE: [WSG] Listamatic Centred horizontal list navbars not working

[Hrvoje Markovic]

I thought it might be that, but it seemed so stupid for a few reasons: 1) it 
doesn't affect http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal03.htm, or 
ANY of the other ones there, and 2) aren't LIs block level so whitespace 
between them doesn't matter? Maybe text-align affects this?


By the way thanks for the solution!



From: Kepler Gelotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Listamatic Centred horizontal list navbars not working
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:51:52 -0500

Hi,

> I'm seeing this glitch in Opera 9, IE7, FF 2...
> On both http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal16.htm AND
> http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal27.htm I see a one
> character wide whitespace (bluespace because of the bg color) before 
every


> link, except the first one.

What is causing the sliver of whitespace is the gap between the list
elements in the html. If you remove it as in:


Item
oneItem twoItem
threeItem fourItem
five


The slight gap on hover goes away.

Regards,
Kepler Gelotte, President Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.
  address: 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854
  web: www.neighborwebmaster.com
phone/fax: (732) 302-0904




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Re: [WSG] Listamatic Centred horizontal list navbars not working

[Hrvoje Markovic]

No, that's the thing, it's on the pages (the links I put up). When you hover 
over let's say "Item Three", don't you still see a little left over dark 
blue between the white 1px border and the hover color (light blue)? It 
SHOULD be the same as 
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal03.htm, except with 
text-align:center. I doubt it's just me, since I'm viewing it in 3 different 
browsers.




From: "Matthew Pennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Listamatic Centred horizontal list navbars not working
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:29:24 +

On 12/30/06, Hrvoje Markovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On both http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal16.htm AND
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal27.htm I see a one
character wide whitespace (bluespace because of the bg color) before every
link, except the first one. Is there a way to fix this? Is there another
method that has such good browser support (all except IE5)? I searched,
but
couldn't find an alternative. Many thanks,



Do you mean on those pages, or on your site that uses the code from those
pages? Those pages look fine to me, which suggests you have a problem
somewhere in your CSS that is causing the issue. If you can provide a link
to your version of the navigation bar, someone may be able to point out 
what

is going wrong.


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RE: [WSG] Listamatic Centred horizontal list navbars not working

[Kepler Gelotte]

Hi,

> I'm seeing this glitch in Opera 9, IE7, FF 2...
> On both http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal16.htm AND 
> http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal27.htm I see a one 
> character wide whitespace (bluespace because of the bg color) before every

> link, except the first one.

What is causing the sliver of whitespace is the gap between the list
elements in the html. If you remove it as in:


Item
oneItem twoItem
threeItem fourItem
five


The slight gap on hover goes away.

Regards,
Kepler Gelotte, President Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.
  address: 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854
  web: www.neighborwebmaster.com
phone/fax: (732) 302-0904




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Re: [WSG] Listamatic Centred horizontal list navbars not working

[Matthew Pennell]

On 12/30/06, Hrvoje Markovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On both http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal16.htm AND
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal27.htm I see a one
character wide whitespace (bluespace because of the bg color) before every
link, except the first one. Is there a way to fix this? Is there another
method that has such good browser support (all except IE5)? I searched,
but
couldn't find an alternative. Many thanks,



Do you mean on those pages, or on your site that uses the code from those
pages? Those pages look fine to me, which suggests you have a problem
somewhere in your CSS that is causing the issue. If you can provide a link
to your version of the navigation bar, someone may be able to point out what
is going wrong.


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[WSG] Listamatic Centred horizontal list navbars not working

[Hrvoje Markovic]

Hello folks,
I'm seeing this glitch in Opera 9, IE7, FF 2...
On both http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal16.htm AND 
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal27.htm I see a one 
character wide whitespace (bluespace because of the bg color) before every 
link, except the first one. Is there a way to fix this? Is there another 
method that has such good browser support (all except IE5)? I searched, but 
couldn't find an alternative. Many thanks,

Hrvoje

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Re: [WSG] Danish Ministry of Taxation spend 1.38 million US dollars on just a new logo insert on web site

[Soren Johannessen]

Steve:

The reason why they want a new logo is that 4 danish authorities in the 
tax area have been merged together here in 2006. So they want have a 
standard logo for all of them, this is a fair reason to  decide  a new 
logo. But what  have  been in the media is the amount of money just 
spending on implementation". 4 times the amount of buying the logo. But 
always the media is only interesting in scandals stories like "The Waste 
of the tax payers money", so I can't answer your questions below.


The only  thing the consultant Ole Weber on the logo project  from 
Danish Ministry of Taxation is saying in media "Our system is made so  
that we have to manually copy and paste the code for logo on each page " 
However this must be a rich lesson, not to have so closed systems "Tag 
soup?" so you can't change anything minor layout without spending huge 
amounts of hours


Soren
PS: happy new year to you all



Soren,

It would be very interesting to learn more about the decision-making 
process here. Do you know anything more about the project than what 
you've sent through? I'd love to know whether there was any discussion 
about moving to a templated approach to the pages - replacing those 
standard elements with an include of some description?


By the way: the cost for the logo design is reasonable for a large 
organisation. There's a lot that is taken into consideration, although 
its always hard to fathom how such a simple end-result can cost so much.


Cheers

Steve Baty
PS: Merry XMas to you all.






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Re: [WSG] Danish Ministry of Taxation spend 1.38 million US dollars on just a new logo insert on web site

[Doc]

Soren,

It would be very interesting to learn more about the decision-making process
here. Do you know anything more about the project than what you've sent
through? I'd love to know whether there was any discussion about moving to a
templated approach to the pages - replacing those standard elements with an
include of some description?

By the way: the cost for the logo design is reasonable for a large
organisation. There's a lot that is taken into consideration, although its
always hard to fathom how such a simple end-result can cost so much.

Cheers

Steve Baty
PS: Merry XMas to you all.


FYI: the Danish Ministry of Taxation has got a new logo

http://www.skat.dk/SKAT.aspx First they pay 38 US dollars for the
design of the logo . Then they spend 138 US dollars in working
labour money for inserting the logo manually (SIC!) on every single web
page at the Danish Ministry of Taxation. It's not a brand new redesign
just the new logo has been inserted. The story does not tell what kind
of CMS or HTML editor they are using, but this sound stupid to "Copy
and paste" manually on every single page when they have so many web
pages at their domain.



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