RE: [WSG] Compliant pop ups

2007-01-30 Thread michael.brockington
Forget detecting screen readers - it is not possible: some of them sit
entirely on top of a standard browser, without affecting it directly.
You would have more chance detecting if a user was colour-blind!

Mike
 

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Pollard
 Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:31 AM
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Compliant pop ups
 
 Still nutting this issue out. I found this a good read: 
 http://www.sitepoint.com/article/ajax-screenreaders-work
 
 Tending to think though that one of the following approaches 
 is the best way 
 forward (until such time as we have the hooks necessary to 
 gain a readers 
 attention) :
 
 1) As Joseph suggested: detect for screen readers and attach 
 rel=lightbox[] 
 if not a screen reader, leaving content URL in href (for 
 screen readers). 
 But how to detect for screen readers, anyone?
 2) Forget about displaying dynamic content and instead link 
 to another page 
 that displays the content ie large image, terms and 
 conditions. Maybe add an 
 extra 'Back' button into the page so that the user can easily 
 navigate back 
 to the referring page
 
 But, forgetting about displaying dynamic content that's 
 tough, I don't 
 think I can do it! Anyone know how to target screen readers?
 
 -- Brad
 
 


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[WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Samuel Richardson
I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables. Before
you all run screaming or hang me from the gallows I have a reason, the page
is being used as an email promotion, web based email readers such as GMail
ignore float styles necessitating the use of table based layouts (oh joy!
The design is very complicated and the powers above don't want to simplify
it)

 

My question is; I'm using the follow to create a 2px wide red border with
padding for content

 

table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 border=2 bordercolor=#cc

 

in IE this renders perfectly fine, in Firefox it adds a 3D effect to the
table border. Is there anyway of switching this off?

 

 

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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Svip

Drop the border colour, and give the table a background and turn up
your cellspacing and set border to 0.

table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=2 border=0 background=#cc

However, I would strongly suggest CSS for this job.

Regards,
Svip

On 1/30/07, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables. Before
you all run screaming or hang me from the gallows I have a reason, the page
is being used as an email promotion, web based email readers such as GMail
ignore float styles necessitating the use of table based layouts (oh joy!
The design is very complicated and the powers above don't want to simplify
it)



My question is; I'm using the follow to create a 2px wide red border with
padding for content



table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 border=2 bordercolor=#cc



in IE this renders perfectly fine, in Firefox it adds a 3D effect to the
table border. Is there anyway of switching this off?





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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread John Faulds
Can you use CSS styles instead of HTML attributes and do: border-collapse:  
collapse; border: 2px solid #C00 ?


On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:39:42 +1000, Samuel Richardson  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables.  
Before
you all run screaming or hang me from the gallows I have a reason, the  
page
is being used as an email promotion, web based email readers such as  
GMail

ignore float styles necessitating the use of table based layouts (oh joy!
The design is very complicated and the powers above don't want to  
simplify

it)


My question is; I'm using the follow to create a 2px wide red border with
padding for content


table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 border=2 bordercolor=#cc


in IE this renders perfectly fine, in Firefox it adds a 3D effect to the
table border. Is there anyway of switching this off?



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RE: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Samuel Richardson
 
As I explained, CSS layouts do not render in Gmail/Hotmail etc.

I've tried your HTML below, it just gives me a fill in that table. You can
see the HTML here:

http://tui/expresstemplate/template_japanese/

The yellow section partway down the page is what I'm trying to fix, if you
view it in both Firefox and IE you'll see the difference between them and
what I'm trying to achieve.

Thanks,

Samuel



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On Behalf Of Svip
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 9:52 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

Drop the border colour, and give the table a background and turn up
your cellspacing and set border to 0.

table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=2 border=0 background=#cc

However, I would strongly suggest CSS for this job.

Regards,
Svip

On 1/30/07, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables.
Before
 you all run screaming or hang me from the gallows I have a reason, the
page
 is being used as an email promotion, web based email readers such as GMail
 ignore float styles necessitating the use of table based layouts (oh joy!
 The design is very complicated and the powers above don't want to simplify
 it)



 My question is; I'm using the follow to create a 2px wide red border with
 padding for content



 table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 border=2 bordercolor=#cc



 in IE this renders perfectly fine, in Firefox it adds a 3D effect to the
 table border. Is there anyway of switching this off?





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FW: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Samuel Richardson
 
Sorry, that address should be:

http://duvel.intrepidtravel.com/expresstemplate/template_japanese/


-Original Message-
From: Samuel Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 10:11 AM
To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'
Subject: RE: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables


As I explained, CSS layouts do not render in Gmail/Hotmail etc.

I've tried your HTML below, it just gives me a fill in that table. You can
see the HTML here:

http://tui/expresstemplate/template_japanese/

The yellow section partway down the page is what I'm trying to fix, if you
view it in both Firefox and IE you'll see the difference between them and
what I'm trying to achieve.

Thanks,

Samuel



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From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Svip
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 9:52 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

Drop the border colour, and give the table a background and turn up
your cellspacing and set border to 0.

table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=2 border=0 background=#cc

However, I would strongly suggest CSS for this job.

Regards,
Svip

On 1/30/07, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables.
Before
 you all run screaming or hang me from the gallows I have a reason, the
page
 is being used as an email promotion, web based email readers such as GMail
 ignore float styles necessitating the use of table based layouts (oh joy!
 The design is very complicated and the powers above don't want to simplify
 it)



 My question is; I'm using the follow to create a 2px wide red border with
 padding for content



 table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 border=2 bordercolor=#cc



 in IE this renders perfectly fine, in Firefox it adds a 3D effect to the
 table border. Is there anyway of switching this off?





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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread David Dorward
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 09:39:42AM +1100, Samuel Richardson wrote:
I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables.

My question is; I'm using the follow to create a 2px wide red border
with padding for content
table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 border=2
bordercolor=#cc

bordercolor? So not HTML 4 Transitional then.
 
 
in IE this renders perfectly fine, in Firefox it adds a 3D effect to
the table border. Is there anyway of switching this off?

Not without using CSS.

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[WSG] Creating link arrows/icons in css

2007-01-30 Thread Jason Bayly
Hi Guys
 
Went to my first UG meeting last week and was very impressed with the quality 
of the speakers. Keep up the good work!
 
Has anyone got any examples or techniques to add an icon/image to the right of 
an anchor tag, specifically when the text wraps to a second line. Google 
doesn’t want to help today….
 
Cheers
 
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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Samuel Richardson wrote:
  
 As I explained, CSS layouts do not render in Gmail/Hotmail etc.

? I just tried sending a fairly complex HTML email that uses tables
and is *totally* styled with inline CSS to my gmail account -- and
it renders exactly as I'd expect.

And as it happens, it has an embedded table with the following:
  table style=border-collapse:collapse;
border: 1px solid silver;
font-size: .9em;
margin-top: 1em;
:: which looks as intended, at least in Firefox...

FWIW!
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Re: [WSG] Creating link arrows/icons in css

2007-01-30 Thread Paul Novitski

At 1/30/2007 03:26 PM, Jason Bayly wrote:
Has anyone got any examples or techniques to add 
an icon/image to the right of an anchor tag, 
specifically when the text wraps to a second 
line. Google doesn’t want to help today….



You can apply a padding-right to your anchor and 
a background-image in that space.


a.with-icon
{
padding-right: 20px;/* a few pixels wider than the image */
background: url(icon.gif) right center no-repeat;
}

I suggest background-position: right center; to 
keep the icon vertically centered as font-size expands.


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RE: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Rachel May
Hi Samuel,

Can't you still use inline styles for the border and gmail will render it
correctly?  I know gmail is a pain with css, but have you tested inline css
for this border problem?

Cheers,
Rachel


-Original Message-
From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Samuel Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 12:12 p.m.
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: FW: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

 
Sorry, that address should be:

http://duvel.intrepidtravel.com/expresstemplate/template_japanese/


-Original Message-
From: Samuel Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 10:11 AM
To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'
Subject: RE: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables


As I explained, CSS layouts do not render in Gmail/Hotmail etc.

I've tried your HTML below, it just gives me a fill in that table. You can
see the HTML here:

http://tui/expresstemplate/template_japanese/

The yellow section partway down the page is what I'm trying to fix, if you
view it in both Firefox and IE you'll see the difference between them and
what I'm trying to achieve.

Thanks,

Samuel



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From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Svip
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 9:52 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

Drop the border colour, and give the table a background and turn up
your cellspacing and set border to 0.

table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=2 border=0 background=#cc

However, I would strongly suggest CSS for this job.

Regards,
Svip

On 1/30/07, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables.
Before
 you all run screaming or hang me from the gallows I have a reason, the
page
 is being used as an email promotion, web based email readers such as GMail
 ignore float styles necessitating the use of table based layouts (oh joy!
 The design is very complicated and the powers above don't want to simplify
 it)



 My question is; I'm using the follow to create a 2px wide red border with
 padding for content



 table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 border=2 bordercolor=#cc



 in IE this renders perfectly fine, in Firefox it adds a 3D effect to the
 table border. Is there anyway of switching this off?





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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Jixor - Stephen I

Gmail supports many attributes, but not everything.

I once found a great list of what different software and online clients 
support, sorry I have checked my bookmarks and can't locate it. If you 
find that list you'll be set, please post it here too because I would 
love to find it again!


Cheers,
Steve.

Hassan Schroeder wrote:

Samuel Richardson wrote:
  
 
As I explained, CSS layouts do not render in Gmail/Hotmail etc.



? I just tried sending a fairly complex HTML email that uses tables
and is *totally* styled with inline CSS to my gmail account -- and
it renders exactly as I'd expect.

And as it happens, it has an embedded table with the following:
  table style=border-collapse:collapse;
border: 1px solid silver;
font-size: .9em;
margin-top: 1em;
:: which looks as intended, at least in Firefox...

FWIW!
  




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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Michael MD


? I just tried sending a fairly complex HTML email that uses tables
and is *totally* styled with inline CSS to my gmail account -- and
it renders exactly as I'd expect.


That might be fine for webmail accounts where you are using a web browser 
but what about desktop email clients?


(yes Outlook/Outlook Express use IE to render html.. but what about 
others?.. can you be sure everyone's email client can even render 
tables? maybe I might be seen as old fashioned in this regard... but for 
email I prefer PLAIN TEXT - at least you can be sure everything can read 
that!)





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RE: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Samuel Richardson
 
I did follow a random article that I found with a Google search that gave a
list of which styles worked and which didn't, I assumed that the didn't
list would not work inline either which may not be the case after reading a
few posts on the list.

If anyone can dig up a best methods article for producing HTML emails then
that would be fantastic.

S



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From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rachel May
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 11:31 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

Hi Samuel,

Can't you still use inline styles for the border and gmail will render it
correctly?  I know gmail is a pain with css, but have you tested inline css
for this border problem?

Cheers,
Rachel


-Original Message-
From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Samuel Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 12:12 p.m.
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: FW: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

 
Sorry, that address should be:

http://duvel.intrepidtravel.com/expresstemplate/template_japanese/


-Original Message-
From: Samuel Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 10:11 AM
To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'
Subject: RE: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables


As I explained, CSS layouts do not render in Gmail/Hotmail etc.

I've tried your HTML below, it just gives me a fill in that table. You can
see the HTML here:

http://tui/expresstemplate/template_japanese/

The yellow section partway down the page is what I'm trying to fix, if you
view it in both Firefox and IE you'll see the difference between them and
what I'm trying to achieve.

Thanks,

Samuel



-Original Message-
From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Svip
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 9:52 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

Drop the border colour, and give the table a background and turn up
your cellspacing and set border to 0.

table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=2 border=0 background=#cc

However, I would strongly suggest CSS for this job.

Regards,
Svip

On 1/30/07, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables.
Before
 you all run screaming or hang me from the gallows I have a reason, the
page
 is being used as an email promotion, web based email readers such as GMail
 ignore float styles necessitating the use of table based layouts (oh joy!
 The design is very complicated and the powers above don't want to simplify
 it)



 My question is; I'm using the follow to create a 2px wide red border with
 padding for content



 table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 border=2 bordercolor=#cc



 in IE this renders perfectly fine, in Firefox it adds a 3D effect to the
 table border. Is there anyway of switching this off?





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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Harris

Michael MD wrote:
That might be fine for webmail accounts where you are using a web 
browser but what about desktop email clients?


(yes Outlook/Outlook Express use IE to render html.. but what about 
others?.. can you be sure everyone's email client can even render 
tables? maybe I might be seen as old fashioned in this regard... but 
for email I prefer PLAIN TEXT - at least you can be sure everything can 
read that!)



I second that emotion!

*growls in a curmudgeonly way and crawls back into hole*

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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread John Faulds
If anyone can dig up a best methods article for producing HTML emails  
then that would be fantastic.


http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/archives/2005/08/optimizing_css_1.html

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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Michael MD wrote:

 That might be fine for webmail accounts where you are using a web
 browser but what about desktop email clients?
 
 (yes Outlook/Outlook Express use IE to render html.. but what about
 others?.. can you be sure everyone's email client can even render
 tables? maybe I might be seen as old fashioned in this regard... but
 for email I prefer PLAIN TEXT - at least you can be sure everything can
 read that!)

And this client's emails are all sent multipart -- with a text/html
*and* a text/plain version. And the HTML version is checked in both
Outlook and Thunderbird, which probably covers 99% of her audience.

Do you know any contemporary email clients that will try to render
HTML that *don't* understand tables? I'd love to know which one(s)
if you do.

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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Matthew Smith

Quoth Mark Harris at 01/31/07 12:01...

Michael MD wrote:
That might be fine for webmail accounts where you are using a web 
browser but what about desktop email clients?


(yes Outlook/Outlook Express use IE to render html.. but what about 
others?.. can you be sure everyone's email client can even render 
tables? maybe I might be seen as old fashioned in this regard... but 
for email I prefer PLAIN TEXT - at least you can be sure everything can 
read that!)



I second that emotion!


I think that the best practice is to only send HTML emails if the 
recipient consents to it.


Personally, I would say that the only thing that belongs in an e-mail is 
plain text (no virii, no waiting for graphics, no inline graphics that 
are so helpful to spammers, no distracting colours, etc...), but at very 
least give the recipient the choice.


I am on several mailing lists with large corporations (mostly electronic 
component manufacturers), and nearly all of them present the mail format 
option on sign-up.  Good on 'em.


M


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RE: [WSG] Creating link arrows/icons in css

2007-01-30 Thread Jason Bayly
Thanks Paul,

I've implemented what you suggest..
http://www.newgency.com/test/css_temp.htm

The css technique doesn’t seem to work too well.

I also have a non css example of what I'm trying to achieve. If you resize the 
browser window so that the link wraps, you will see the end result.

Any thoughts on a nice css based solution?

Cheers

Jason

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-Original Message-
From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul 
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Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 11:10 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Creating link arrows/icons in css

At 1/30/2007 03:26 PM, Jason Bayly wrote:
Has anyone got any examples or techniques to add 
an icon/image to the right of an anchor tag, 
specifically when the text wraps to a second 
line. Google doesn’t want to help today….


You can apply a padding-right to your anchor and 
a background-image in that space.

a.with-icon
{
 padding-right: 20px;/* a few pixels wider than the image */
 background: url(icon.gif) right center no-repeat;
}

I suggest background-position: right center; to 
keep the icon vertically centered as font-size expands.

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Paul
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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

It is always a good idea to check the CSS-discuss wiki
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StyleInEmail
might have enough links, tips and tricks to do what you want.
(and you can always update it...)

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Re: [WSG] Creating link arrows/icons in css

2007-01-30 Thread Christian Montoya

On 1/30/07, Jason Bayly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Paul,

I've implemented what you suggest..
http://www.newgency.com/test/css_temp.htm

The css technique doesn't seem to work too well.

I also have a non css example of what I'm trying to achieve. If you resize the 
browser window so that the link wraps, you will see the end result.

Any thoughts on a nice css based solution?


The problem is that IE makes a horrible guess on where to put the
background image and keeps it in the center as if the link was
displayed as a block. Totally counter-intuitive, and I don't know of a
solution... I would probably put the image at the beginning instead of
the end.


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[WSG] Styling form elements in Safari

2007-01-30 Thread TomGou
Hello All,
 
Am I correct in assuming there isn't a way to style an input of type submit in 
Safari to match what I've styled that shows in
Firefox and Netscape?
 
-TIA


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Re: [WSG] Styling form elements in Safari

2007-01-30 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh


On Jan 31, 2007, at 12:08 PM, TomGou wrote:

Am I correct in assuming there isn't a way to style an input of  
type submit in Safari to match what I've styled that shows in

Firefox and Netscape?


button type=submitbutton text/button

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[WSG] div out of alignment

2007-01-30 Thread Jermayn Parker
Hi all

I know this is a fairly simple problem but after spending a few days designing 
it and nutting out all these problems, im kinder over it (if you kow what i 
mean)

In ie the divs which hold the main content go below the side menu divs if the 
window size isnt big enough.

I think the problem is the space or the way they are floated but im not sure

http://www.germworks.net 

Thanks for checking and help

btw if anyone has any problems with design, accesability issues etc can you 
also please point them out

Thanks again



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Re: [WSG] div out of alignment

2007-01-30 Thread John Faulds
If you reduce the width of the window in FF you get the right column  
overlapping the left which suggests the maths on the columns doesn't add  
up which on quick look seems a bit odd because they seem to add up to less  
than 100%. I changed #sidebar to 39% instead of 40% though and the right  
column moved back into the correct position, so it might have a similar  
effect in IE.


On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:39:40 +1000, Jermayn Parker  
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Hi all

I know this is a fairly simple problem but after spending a few days  
designing it and nutting out all these problems, im kinder over it (if  
you kow what i mean)


In ie the divs which hold the main content go below the side menu divs  
if the window size isnt big enough.


I think the problem is the space or the way they are floated but im not  
sure


http://www.germworks.net

Thanks for checking and help

btw if anyone has any problems with design, accesability issues etc can  
you also please point them out


Thanks again



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RE: [WSG] Creating link arrows/icons in css

2007-01-30 Thread Paul Novitski

At 1/30/2007 05:50 PM, Jason Bayly wrote:

Thanks Paul,

I've implemented what you suggest..
http://www.newgency.com/test/css_temp.htm

The css technique doesn't seem to work too well.

I also have a non css example of what I'm trying to achieve. If you 
resize the browser window so that the link wraps, you will see the end result.


Any thoughts on a nice css based solution?



Oops, sorry, forgot to test in Explorer.

So here's a solution that does work in both Firefox and Explorer:
_

a href=#This is a very very ... very long linkspan/span/a

a span
{
padding: 0 8px;
background: url(folder.gif) right center no-repeat;
height: 1%;
}
_

The 8px horizontal padding makes room for a 16px-wide image.

span/span is deplorably extraneous in the markup, but at least 
it's semantically transparent.


height: 1%; is a harmless hack to force Explorer to give the span 
layout, without which it's necessary to insert a space inside the span.


Regards,

Paul
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