Re: [WSG] Opera 9.10 Margin
Thanks David - look forward to the new release. I've put in a dreaded span to solve the problem for now. Much appreciated Sarah :) You could possibly use a dotted border instead of an image for the vertical pipe, but the one pixel issue is a Opera bug as it works correctly in our public builds of Opera 9.2. Development is wrapping up shortly on 9.2, so it should be out soon. you can test the page using this build by downloading the weekly at http://my.opera.com/ desktopteam/blog/ Thanks, David Storey Chief Web Opener Opera Software ASA -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Usability Questions for Quicktime
Many thanks Tim. I've upgraded all the videos on my site to Flash, and there is code (Flash Satay, amongst others) that works with all browsers and still follows all standards. Trust me, this is the way you want to go - my experience with Quicktime is that the files tend to be bulky, and there's no way they have the quality that a Flash video file will. I used to use Windows Media Video because it had a decent file size, but that got ditched once Flash came along. This is the code I use to embed Flash on my site that doesn't give the W3C Validator any errors: object classid=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354 width=400 height=300 param name=movie value=your.swf / param name=wmode value=transparent / param name=quality value=high / !--[if !IE] -- object data=your.swf width=400 height=300 type=application/x-shockwave-flash param name=quality value=high / param name=wmode value=transparent / /object !-- ![endif]-- /object -Tim AIM/Yahoo/Google: TymArtist -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Usability Questions for Quicktime
Hi all, I am using the code below to embed a .mov file, which is standards compliant in XHTML 1.0 Strict. Two questions please: 1. What is the best way to hide the movie from browsers that don't support quicktime (or from users who don't want to download quicktime)? 2. Is there a different file format which is more universal? = object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; param name=src value=/images/movies/test.mov / param name=autoplay value=true / param name=controller value=false / param name=loop value=true / param name=bgcolor value=#a6ad98 / !--[if !IE]-- object type=video/quicktime data=/images/movies/test.mov param name=autoplay value=true / param name=controller value=false / param name=loop value=true / param name=bgcolor value=#a6ad98 / /object !--![endif]-- /object = Thanks in advance :) -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Usability Questions for Quicktime
Hi Steve We work for a lot of clever people and they often revert to a non-Flash solution. Thanks for your reply (and everyone else too!) - I was concerned about Flash too. Have the designers you've tested for found QuickTime to be more accessible to screen readers, generally? Otherwise, what other non-Flash solutions do they use? I am most concerned about usability/accessibility issues with this project. Thanks Sarah -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] including files with php produces 12px margin height ???
Perhaps a little off topic, but I'd suggest that you may have introduced some white space before and after your php code. Any empty lines between xhtml and php will introduce so-called margins. I don't know any more... Is it me, or it is some kind of stupid software's sh... problem? Wen layout coded in xhtml and is in one piece.. everithing is qool. But, as I cut it on pieces, and inculde them with php's include_once function, it ads to certain element ( don't get it what is the logical procedur that picks them out ) 12px margin top and bottom... :( Any expierience with that anyone? Maybe the solution? Btw. I'am useing notepad++ for coding... thank you! -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Broken Links and New Windows
Hi all, On the subject of opening new windows (which I am also opposed to), how should a report broken link be configured? My thinking is that if someone bothers to take the time to report a broken link, we should make it as easy as possible for them to do so. Opening a new window allows them to still view the page with the broken link so that they can describe what/where the link is on the page. If they are directed to a new page to report the link instead, it would be difficult for them to remember all the relevant details. Does anyone have experience with broken link reporting? Do users ever report them? If so, is it general practice to merely report what page the error is on, or do users usually provide more details? Thankyou Sarah -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Broken Links and New Windows
Hi Terrance I doubt many visitors care about your web site that much to be honest - why not just let them use cut and paste rather than trying to reinvent a wheel? Thanks for your reply. Perhaps, just a simple mailto, and the over zealous users can copy and paste, just as you say. Many thanks for your reply. Sarah :) -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Broken Links and New Windows
Hi Lachlan If you still think you need such a thing, why not do one of the following: 1. Let the user open a new window if they need to! 2. Use a script to dynamically insert the form into the same page 3. Add the link to the 404 page with the link like this: href=/report?url=fooamp;referrer=baramp;... Then use those parameters to fill out the form and provide a textarea for any additional information the user wants to provide. Great ideas - as always :) Many thanks Sarah -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] best way to style the Tags?
Perhaps I'm missing something, but why not use h2, h3, h4, h5
etc to mark up a tagcloud ???
Tee G. Peng wrote:
OK, take http://technorati.com/ homepage for example.
I could only think it this way:
.bush {font-size: 1.5em}
.comedy {font-size: .9em}
.democrates {font-size: 1.2em}
or more generic naming:
.big {font-size: 1.5em}
.small {font-size: .9em}
.medium {font-size: .12em}
lispan class=bigbush/span span
class=smallcomedy/spanspan
class=mediumdemocrates/span/li
That relies completely purely on styling to convey meaning. Not saying
that the heavily nested EMs are ideal, but at least they convey
meaning in the markup, where your proposed solution only applies a
visual distinction to otherwise equal and generic spans.
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RE: [WSG] Accessible Multi-Column List
This solution would be great, except that I need the list to remain alphabetical *vertically*. Have you considered styling your LIs so that they sit side-by-side within the list? Then you would have one single list, with list items taking up 49% of the width of the list, giving the appearance of two columns on screen, but only one physical list for accessibility. I am sure there are many different ways of doing this, but the most obvious starting point would be to style the LIs as 'display:inline' and take it from there. Regards, Mike -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessible Multi-Column List
Hi Paul The methods I describe in this article use ems for positioning, not pixels: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/multicolumnlists/ My favorite method is the last (#6). Have you found that it doesn't survive cross-browser? I'd be interested in your findings. I saw your example 6, and it looks great. I maybe nitpicking but the columns don't line up in Safari 2.0.4 or Opera 9.0.2 Mac. I know they've got a small audience generally, but I'm hoping to find something more x-browser if possible. Do you know a workaround for this? -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Absolute URLs, RSS Feeds Mod_Rewrite
Hi all I am playing with mod_rewrite to make user/SE friendly urls of a database driven website. I have noticed that CMSs like WordPress (I'm *not* using WP for this project) make use of absolute urls, and that someone on WP's forum mentioned that absolute urls are important for RSS feeds. I always thought relative urls were best as they preserved bandwidth etc. However, it also seems that mod_rewrite is easier to configure with absolute urls too. I'd be interested in what many of you feel is best practice in the use of the following, in combination: 1. User/SE friendly urls (eg http://www.domain.com/folder/1/3/ as opposed to http://www.domain.com/folder/index.php?$a=1amp;$b=3) 2. Relative vs absolute urls (eg http://www.domain.com/images/1.jpg vs ../images/1.jpg) Should *all* pages be in a flat file system to avoid ../../ etc, or should I use index.php inside its own folder as the default file name for each page? 3. RSS feed requirements Is it true that RSS requires the use of absolute urls? --- Also, on another note, I've noticed a lot of sites use / as a link back to the home page, which works fine on my remote server. But I like to maintain a copy of my main project site locally, and the slash does not work on my internal server. How would I get around having to have two different copies of my website? Is there an option other than using VirtualHost which I can't seem to find an up-to-date, easy-to-understand explanation for configuring with OSX Tiger? Many thanks for any assistance. Sarah -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Absolute URLs, RSS Feeds Mod_Rewrite
Hi Patrick Thanks for your reply. I'd avoid the ../ shenanigans, as that makes your directories less portable OK, I can see how this works on a remote server. / for home page /images/1.jpg for image folder located in root etc But how do I then maintain this same file structure on my internal server (OSX Tiger) so I don't need to have two copies of my website? / /about/index.php /about/bio.php I would link to as a href=/ ... a href=/about/ ... a href=/about/bio/ ... Again, this last one works thanks to content negotiation, aka MultiViews Do you have a reference or simple code snippet for using MultiViews with your last example? -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Absolute URLs, RSS Feeds Mod_Rewrite
Rob I won't have a chance to try this until later in the week, but many thanks for the detailed explanation. I'll let you know how it goes. PS I assume this works OK with Tiger? Much appreciated Sarah :) -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] XHTML X-Browser Standard for MP3
Thanks everyone, Why not add a link to the .mp3 file directly ? That would open in any app that can play mp3 files on the user's system. I've opted for Philippe's suggestion - a much simpler solution! Sarah :) -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] XHTML X-Browser Standard for MP3
Hi all, I have designed a site for some friends at: http://www.freefalljazz.com/ which has a sampler mp3 embedded on the homepage (bottom left). Apparently it's not working in FF WIN or IE6 WIN. I've tried to follow some sort of standard as per: http://realdev1.realise.com/rossa/rendertest/mp3.html Here is the code I've used: object type=audio/mp3 data=media/01_Life_Is_A_Circle_sample.mp3 width=180 height=25 param name=src value=media/01_Life_Is_A_Circle_sample.mp3 / param name=autoplay value=false / param name=controller value=true / /object Any suggestions please ??? -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Help with Flowchart Min/Max Width IE Win
Hi all --- PROBLEM A I have a flowchart with background image that is causing me all sorts of headaches in (you guessed it) IE6 (haven't even looked at IE5.5 if anyone would like to take the plunge?): http://www.xert.com.au/test/about/ The relevant styles are at the top of the page for convenience (you shouldn't need to delve into the external styles). The main problem appears to be the left margin when adjusting the browser size (I'm particularly interested in 800x600 and larger resolutions). --- PROBLEM B I have also incorporated some min-width, max-width stylesheets for IE: http://www.xert.com.au/test/styles/ie5.css http://www.xert.com.au/test/styles/ie5.css Which don't appear to be working in IE6 (not sure about IE5 - anyone?). --- P.S. FF Win and Mac appear to be OK - with no problems. Any help *very gratefully* received :) -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] HTML editor for Mac
Hi Paul Was curious to know if anyone else is doing front end development on the Mac? If so, what software are you using? Check out TextMate http://macromates.com/ - excellent for (x)html, css, PHP and Ruby etc. I also use BBEdit, but IMHO TextMate has surpassed it for ease of use. HTH Sarah :) -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
