RE: [WSG] Access Keys and large sites
Patrick, I'm sure you are aware that the problem with Access Keys is not the principle, but the potential interference with user agents. With an Intranet you normally have control over which user agents are in use, and can therefore ensure that the actual Access Keys that are used do not interfere. You may still not have a usable set of keys, but at least things are predictable, and any unwanted effects can be handled directly. In the same way, accessibility in general is always less of an issue on an Intranet, as you only need to worry about actual problems with your site/UA combination, not all potential problems with all possible combinations. Mike -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 10:54 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Access Keys and large sites And why would an intranet warrant different treatment from any other web content? P -- Patrick H. Lauke ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Access Keys and large sites
I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that an employer must make reasonable adjustments to accommodate specific problems affecting an existing or new employee. For an adjustment to be required at that point, one must assume that it is not necessary to fix problems that have no effect on an employee, or to stretch the point a little, to problems that have not been notified. I am not advocating that web standards be ignored on an Intranet, but trying to clarifyPatrick's earlier question. Mike From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew PennellSent: Monday, July 03, 2006 12:31 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Access Keys and large sites On 7/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick,In the same way, accessibility in general is always less of an issue onan Intranet, as you only need to worry about actual problems with yoursite/UA combination, not all potential problems with all possiblecombinations.And presumably your company's HR department know that they must avoid hiring anyone with a disability, as they might have trouble using your intranet, yes? **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
RE: [WSG] Access Keys and large sites
Well if no-one else is going to say it, then I will have to: Don't use Access Keys except on an Intranet site. IF you do a quick Google search for 'Access Keys' and 'Bad' you should find several articles which have researched the number of such keys that do not clash with a Browser, OS or AT function. If I remember correctly, there are two of them, and I'll give you a tenner myself if you can find either of them on your keyboard without looking! Mike Cole Kuryakin wrote: Hello All - I'm pretty new to the whole accessibility thing but I'm trying. The latest question mark that arose in my mind regards to access keys: since there's only 10 numeric keys (including 0) what does one do if you're building a site that exceeds 10 pages? The one I'm working on now looks like it's going to top-out at over 50 pages with some sections containing 2 different drill-down levels Food for thought: http://www.wats.ca/show.php?contentid=32 BTW Firefox in Linux has assigned the numeric keys to the tabs. Pressing Alt + 1 takes you to your first tab. Pressing Alt + 2 takes you to the second, and so on. Just FYI. Kat ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** winmail.dat
Re: [WSG] Access Keys and large sites
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if no-one else is going to say it, then I will have to: Don't use Access Keys except on an Intranet site. And why would an intranet warrant different treatment from any other web content? P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Access Keys and large sites
Title: Access Keys and large sites Hello All Im pretty new to the whole accessibility thing but Im trying. The latest question mark that arose in my mind regards to access keys: since theres only 10 numeric keys (including 0) what does one do if youre building a site that exceeds 10 pages? The one Im working on now looks like its going to top-out at over 50 pages with some sections containing 2 different drill-down levels No need for anyone to go into a lot of explanation on what to do if theres simply a good link that can be provided that will answer my question. Appreciate all insight in advance. Cole **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
