Re: [WSG] Tracking print.css to detemine printed pages
On 8/3/06, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just checking in Firefox with the LiveHTTPHeaders extension, it looks like FF downloads the print.css when the page is loaded, not when you hit print or print preview. I'll go out on a limb and say that this behaviour may well be common in other browsers as well...so doing stats based on the hits to that file seems like a no go. I wonder whether you could do something with an image that is only used during printing, for example specifying a background-image in print.css that is not used normally? Do browsers parse stylesheets for irrelevant media and load images from them? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Tracking print.css to detemine printed pages
While on the surface that looks like a good solution, you have to remember that by default browsers won't print any backgrounds (colors or images) so the image you set as a background in the print.css file may never get loaded. Testing is certainly required as that info is scraped from the dusty shelves at the back of my brain :0) Chris -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Pennell Sent: 03 August 2006 08:45 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Tracking print.css to detemine printed pages On 8/3/06, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just checking in Firefox with the LiveHTTPHeaders extension, it looks like FF downloads the print.css when the page is loaded, not when you hit print or print preview. I'll go out on a limb and say that this behaviour may well be common in other browsers as well...so doing stats based on the hits to that file seems like a no go. I wonder whether you could do something with an image that is only used during printing, for example specifying a background-image in print.css that is not used normally? Do browsers parse stylesheets for irrelevant media and load images from them? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Tracking print.css to detemine printed pages
On 8/3/06, Chris Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While on the surface that looks like a good solution, you have to remember that by default browsers won't print any backgrounds (colors or images) so the image you set as a background in the print.css file may never get loaded. My guess would be that images are loaded regardless of whether the print settings are set to print background images, same as they are for hidden or display: none elements. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Tracking print.css to detemine printed pages
Perhaps this is one of those browser default CSS issues we've been hearing about recently, setting all backgrounds in the print media to 'none'. If anyone has the time to do some testing (unfortunately I don't at the moment) I'd really like to see the results. Chris -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Pennell Sent: 03 August 2006 12:45 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Tracking print.css to detemine printed pages On 8/3/06, Chris Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While on the surface that looks like a good solution, you have to remember that by default browsers won't print any backgrounds (colors or images) so the image you set as a background in the print.css file may never get loaded. My guess would be that images are loaded regardless of whether the print settings are set to print background images, same as they are for hidden or display: none elements. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Tracking print.css to detemine printed pages
Sigurd Magnusson wrote: Has anyone used a separate, external print style sheet so that you could review requests of the file, e.g. print.css, and look at the 'referer', thereby seeing which pages get printed on a website? Does this technique work, or do some browsers download this file with great abandon, undermining the accuracy of doing this? Just checking in Firefox with the LiveHTTPHeaders extension, it looks like FF downloads the print.css when the page is loaded, not when you hit print or print preview. I'll go out on a limb and say that this behaviour may well be common in other browsers as well...so doing stats based on the hits to that file seems like a no go. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
