Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-26 Thread Tony McNulty

On 25/11/06, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
> > like Marvin but being accused by you


On 11/25/06, James Crooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.
>
>

Actually, the way to solve annoyance 4 is to change your attitude.
Telling someone to change their e-mail client is like telling someone
to change their browser, and we all know you can't expect that to
work. Besides, Gmail may be fancy but I doubt it is very accessible.


I imagine the plain html view that gmail offers is much more
accessible than the fancy one. Besides which, you have the free pop
access to make it as fancy/accessible as you wish with your own
clients.

Tony


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RE: [WSG] WebSite Feedback !

2006-11-25 Thread Peter Firminger
Thanks for the link? It's on the bottom of every post!

If you have some help for Marvin, please feel free to continue this thread.
If not, THE END.

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RE: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-25 Thread Eric Colley - GoldSpace.com
I'm referring to normal emails, not listserve type emails like this one.

Thanks for the link, however.

Eric

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Subject: Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

On 11/25/06, Eric Colley - GoldSpace.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I hate it when people trim their message in reply.  I'm constantly 
> getting emails from people with some quick answer in response to 
> something, and I have no idea what they are referring to, because they 
> delete the previous text from the email.  I think it is a bad idea to trim
emails like that.
> Just my two cents.


They are only trying to be courteous:

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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-25 Thread James Crooke

It's far better than advertising in your email signature.

On 11/25/06, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
> > like Marvin but being accused by you


On 11/25/06, James Crooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.
>
>

Actually, the way to solve annoyance 4 is to change your attitude.
Telling someone to change their e-mail client is like telling someone
to change their browser, and we all know you can't expect that to
work. Besides, Gmail may be fancy but I doubt it is very accessible.

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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-25 Thread Christian Montoya

On 11/25/06, Eric Colley - GoldSpace.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I hate it when people trim their message in reply.  I'm constantly getting
emails from people with some quick answer in response to something, and I
have no idea what they are referring to, because they delete the previous
text from the email.  I think it is a bad idea to trim emails like that.
Just my two cents.



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RE: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-25 Thread Eric Colley - GoldSpace.com
I hate it when people trim their message in reply.  I'm constantly getting
emails from people with some quick answer in response to something, and I
have no idea what they are referring to, because they delete the previous
text from the email.  I think it is a bad idea to trim emails like that.
Just my two cents.
 
Eric

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From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of James Crooke
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 9:24 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback


Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.


On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


On Nov 22, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Luke wrote:

> I would like to remind you that there is a advertisement in you e-mail 
> signature.

Your message implied that the message from Marvin was a disguise and
that his true intention was to advertise some service.

FIY, webmails like Yahoo, hotmail, MSN and many others auto insert 
advertisement at the bottom of the email and Marvin was using hotmail
- there is nothing he could do about the advertisement accept unsub
from hotmail. If it bugs you, you have the following options"  1)
unsub; 2) make a  complaint to WSG admin, have them block members who
use yahoo, msn, hotmail and so on - let's pray god that your voice is
heard and your existence at WSG is essential to the WSG existence so
that it makes certain your compliant be heard and action be taken 
accordingly by WSG admin; or 3) be tolerate; nobody steps on your toes.

And I would like to ask, which one annoys you most:
1) people who use html email with his/her big company logo and listed
20 lines of the service he/she offers 
2) people who didn't turn off vacation notice
3) people who don't trim their messages in reply
4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
like Marvin but being accused by you



Sincerely,

Tee G. Peng




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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-25 Thread Christian Montoya

On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> 4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
> like Marvin but being accused by you



On 11/25/06, James Crooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.




Actually, the way to solve annoyance 4 is to change your attitude.
Telling someone to change their e-mail client is like telling someone
to change their browser, and we all know you can't expect that to
work. Besides, Gmail may be fancy but I doubt it is very accessible.

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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-25 Thread Donna Jones



Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.


but then we get a new annoyance, invariably.  people who post two or 
three times because they're not seeing their initial message from gMail. 
   I vote for "just be tolerant".


best
Donna




On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On Nov 22, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Luke wrote:

> I would like to remind you that there is a advertisement in you e-mail
> signature.

Your message implied that the message from Marvin was a disguise and
that his true intention was to advertise some service.

FIY, webmails like Yahoo, hotmail, MSN and many others auto insert
advertisement at the bottom of the email and Marvin was using hotmail
- there is nothing he could do about the advertisement accept unsub
from hotmail. If it bugs you, you have the following options"  1)
unsub; 2) make a  complaint to WSG admin, have them block members who
use yahoo, msn, hotmail and so on - let's pray god that your voice is
heard and your existence at WSG is essential to the WSG existence so
that it makes certain your compliant be heard and action be taken
accordingly by WSG admin; or 3) be tolerate; nobody steps on your toes.

And I would like to ask, which one annoys you most:
1) people who use html email with his/her big company logo and listed
20 lines of the service he/she offers
2) people who didn't turn off vacation notice
3) people who don't trim their messages in reply
4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
like Marvin but being accused by you



Sincerely,

Tee G. Peng




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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-25 Thread James Crooke

Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.

On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Nov 22, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Luke wrote:

> I would like to remind you that there is a advertisement in you e-mail
> signature.

Your message implied that the message from Marvin was a disguise and
that his true intention was to advertise some service.

FIY, webmails like Yahoo, hotmail, MSN and many others auto insert
advertisement at the bottom of the email and Marvin was using hotmail
- there is nothing he could do about the advertisement accept unsub
from hotmail. If it bugs you, you have the following options"  1)
unsub; 2) make a  complaint to WSG admin, have them block members who
use yahoo, msn, hotmail and so on - let's pray god that your voice is
heard and your existence at WSG is essential to the WSG existence so
that it makes certain your compliant be heard and action be taken
accordingly by WSG admin; or 3) be tolerate; nobody steps on your toes.

And I would like to ask, which one annoys you most:
1) people who use html email with his/her big company logo and listed
20 lines of the service he/she offers
2) people who didn't turn off vacation notice
3) people who don't trim their messages in reply
4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
like Marvin but being accused by you



Sincerely,

Tee G. Peng




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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-25 Thread Tee G. Peng


On Nov 22, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Luke wrote:


I would like to remind you that there is a advertisement in you e-mail
signature.


Your message implied that the message from Marvin was a disguise and  
that his true intention was to advertise some service.


FIY, webmails like Yahoo, hotmail, MSN and many others auto insert  
advertisement at the bottom of the email and Marvin was using hotmail  
- there is nothing he could do about the advertisement accept unsub  
from hotmail. If it bugs you, you have the following options"  1)  
unsub; 2) make a  complaint to WSG admin, have them block members who  
use yahoo, msn, hotmail and so on - let's pray god that your voice is  
heard and your existence at WSG is essential to the WSG existence so  
that it makes certain your compliant be heard and action be taken  
accordingly by WSG admin; or 3) be tolerate; nobody steps on your toes.


And I would like to ask, which one annoys you most:
1) people who use html email with his/her big company logo and listed  
20 lines of the service he/she offers

2) people who didn't turn off vacation notice
3) people who don't trim their messages in reply
4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent  
like Marvin but being accused by you




Sincerely,

Tee G. Peng




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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-22 Thread Christian Montoya

Marvin,

On the main page, you have:

Welcome To Marvins Web Portal Page

Welcome To Marvins Star Trek Universe Page

Welcome To Marvins Awesome Eighties Music Page

Welcome To Marvins Disability Portal Page

But the main page should probably just have:

Welcome To Marvins Web Portal Page

And the rest of those headers should be reserved for the internal
pages. That way it isn't confusing to have a main page that claims to
be 4 different pages.

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RE: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-22 Thread Rachel May
Hi Marvin,
Well done!  I'm sure it is informative for people who have interests in star
trek and 80's music :)

In your tables I don't think you need the  inside the  - if you want
them to look the same, then you can style the  to look like an .
That might fix some spacing issues within your tables.

The only other thing is I can't quite understand why you need the open in
new window?   It makes it a lot more difficult to look around your site, and
there must be a way to avoid it jumping down to the navigation... I can't
see why it would be doing this?


Rachel




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On Behalf Of marvin hunkin
Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2006 5:48 p.m.
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Subject: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

Hi.
could people take a look at this site i have created, send me honest 
feedback, and what could be done to improve the look, feel and content of 
this site at http://marvin.webboy.net/
cheers Marvin.
ps: the main problems, were that had to wrap the text around, or would have 
been a lot of white space, and blank lines, jaws saying between paragraphs, 
so got this trick from a friend.
would like just to have the standard paragraphs, but then when reading in 
line mode, says blank line.
i know there is some trick to do that, without being very complex.
now, think i might have problems with my tables, being coded accessibly.
want to have the actor name, and part heading all on one line, with a space 
in between, and the same format for the table data, actor and part on one 
line with a space, instead of being on two lines.
to look appealing to sighted users, and also to be accessible to blind 
users.
now, on my 80s music site, do i need a heading, called Website Links, for my

3 80s links, or just tack it on to the end of the navigation links.
those are the main problems, i am having.
and yes, had to do the new windows, in a new window, as if i put the target 
to nothing, it goes to the navigation section, instead of top of the page.
that's about it, apart from that, pretty pleased with this site so far.

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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-22 Thread Luke

I would like to remind you that there is a advertisement in you e-mail
signature.

On 22/11/06, marvin hunkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi.
could people take a look at this site i have created, send me honest
feedback, and what could be done to improve the look, feel and content of
this site at http://marvin.webboy.net/
cheers Marvin.
ps: the main problems, were that had to wrap the text around, or would have
been a lot of white space, and blank lines, jaws saying between paragraphs,
so got this trick from a friend.
would like just to have the standard paragraphs, but then when reading in
line mode, says blank line.
i know there is some trick to do that, without being very complex.
now, think i might have problems with my tables, being coded accessibly.
want to have the actor name, and part heading all on one line, with a space
in between, and the same format for the table data, actor and part on one
line with a space, instead of being on two lines.
to look appealing to sighted users, and also to be accessible to blind
users.
now, on my 80s music site, do i need a heading, called Website Links, for my
3 80s links, or just tack it on to the end of the navigation links.
those are the main problems, i am having.
and yes, had to do the new windows, in a new window, as if i put the target
to nothing, it goes to the navigation section, instead of top of the page.
that's about it, apart from that, pretty pleased with this site so far.

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[WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-21 Thread marvin hunkin

Hi.
could people take a look at this site i have created, send me honest 
feedback, and what could be done to improve the look, feel and content of 
this site at http://marvin.webboy.net/

cheers Marvin.
ps: the main problems, were that had to wrap the text around, or would have 
been a lot of white space, and blank lines, jaws saying between paragraphs, 
so got this trick from a friend.
would like just to have the standard paragraphs, but then when reading in 
line mode, says blank line.

i know there is some trick to do that, without being very complex.
now, think i might have problems with my tables, being coded accessibly.
want to have the actor name, and part heading all on one line, with a space 
in between, and the same format for the table data, actor and part on one 
line with a space, instead of being on two lines.
to look appealing to sighted users, and also to be accessible to blind 
users.
now, on my 80s music site, do i need a heading, called Website Links, for my 
3 80s links, or just tack it on to the end of the navigation links.

those are the main problems, i am having.
and yes, had to do the new windows, in a new window, as if i put the target 
to nothing, it goes to the navigation section, instead of top of the page.

that's about it, apart from that, pretty pleased with this site so far.

_
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[WSG] WebSite Feedback

2006-11-21 Thread marvin hunkin

Hi.
could people take a look at this site i have created, send me honest 
feedback, and what could be done to improve the look, feel and content of 
this site at http://marvin.webboy.net/

cheers Marvin.
ps: the main problems, were that had to wrap the text around, or would have 
been a lot of white space, and blank lines, jaws saying between paragraphs, 
so got this trick from a friend.
would like just to have the standard paragraphs, but then when reading in 
line mode, says blank line.

i know there is some trick to do that, without being very complex.
now, think i might have problems with my tables, being coded accessibly.
want to have the actor name, and part heading all on one line, with a space 
in between, and the same format for the table data, actor and part on one 
line with a space, instead of being on two lines.
to look appealing to sighted users, and also to be accessible to blind 
users.
now, on my 80s music site, do i need a heading, called Website Links, for my 
3 80s links, or just tack it on to the end of the navigation links.

those are the main problems, i am having.
and yes, had to do the new windows, in a new window, as if i put the target 
to nothing, it goes to the navigation section, instead of top of the page.

that's about it, apart from that, pretty pleased with this site so far.

_
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