Re: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS
On Sep 10, 2006, at 12:30 AM, Lynne Pope wrote:If you site is primarily a blog, look at blogging scripts. Very few CMS have robust blogging features. If you are new to CMS software the very last thing you need is to have to learn how to hack something to make it work for you. Look for whatever is the closest match to your needs that has good documentation and an active user forum to help you when you have questions. How come nobody mentions Etomite? http://www.etomite.orgI was hestitate to jump in for recommendation as my knowledge of CMS is very little. For two years I was looking for a CMS that can do validate strict markup, tried Mambo, Drupal and Joolma, gave up half way. Few months ago I learned about Etomite, after spending sometimes on forum's archive, I decided to give it try and really like it.For someone who knows very little of PHP, I find Etomite's learning curve quite easy. The core of this beast is the snippets and chunks, and there is no Etomite language you need to learn like with Wordpress and Textpattern ( which I was learning now and actually have difficult to grab the concept).I developed the etomite site like I do with nomal CSS layout, the only difficulty I found was to modify existing snippet to suit my needs, but that is only because I know too little of _javascript_ and PHP.There is an interesting thread about Etomte as CMS framework. http://www.etomite.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=5720One of the developer said: Etomite is very flexible, with developers in mind rather than portal users...I am actually not sure if this is a good thing, becaues I thougt most companies that want CMS are because they want to be able to add/edit their websites. But I really don't know enough to make any comment on this.A client site I was working on these past month is powered by Etomite and XHTML strict validated.If you are intersted, please examine my codes. Becaue the site hasn't completed yet so I don't have knowledge if it will be easy for client to do the maintenance with Etomite admin panel. decorsit.comBest, tee **Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]**
Re: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS
After years of studying them all I use three: Movable Type Expression Engine Wordpress In that order. Reasons? They are easily configurable and accessible systems which allow changes and additions very easily. Any cms you are thinking of, spend some time studying the templates and menu systems. Are they easy to access and make changes or are they all over the place? Any besides these I have found to be basically nuke lookalikes. Complex, templates inside templates and inconfigurable without a steep learning curve that just isn't worth it. I agree totally with Jeff Veen: Making A Better Open Source CMS http://www.veen.com/jeff/archives/000622.html been there done that. You can make any system strict if you want. Events calendar just add one on. Or get one with an events calendar and spend two weeks trying to configure and learn the rest of it Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions - Original Message - From: Elle Meredith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS Hey, I am new to CMS and find it hard to select one that will work for me and my client (non-profit organisation) and thought I could use some advice. I am interested in a CMS that is: * XHTML Strict * Built-in Accessibility features. I also need one that has the following: * Blog with commenting * RSS syndication * Events calendar and option for people to sign up for events * Basic image galleries * Search options * Donation option in the future I was looking at Xaraya or Web GUI. But any advice would be much appreciated. Cheers, Elle ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS
-Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wonsil Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:13 AM To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS CivicSpace was designed to do all of these. It is built on Drupal. You can demo either at: CivicSpace: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=510 Drupal: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=132 Roberto Scano: Also their backend conform to accessibility requirements? ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
Re: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS
CivicSpace was designed to do all of these. It is built on Drupal, but has not been updated to work with the last 3 Latest releases including the current Drupal 4.7.3 On 9/8/06, Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wonsil Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:13 AM To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS CivicSpace was designed to do all of these. It is built on Drupal. You can demo either at: CivicSpace: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=510 Drupal: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=132 Roberto Scano: Also their backend conform to accessibility requirements? ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- chaim cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
Re: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS
I of course have no intention of starting an argument over whats best and so on. My only criteria for a CMS is configurability. I have installed Drupal, Mambo and related on quite a few occasions. Always seems to be configuration issues. Using them as is will be fine, but I always found that when you want to do customizations, anything more than a drop in template, the way they are programmed, the templates, menu systems etc make it very difficult to do so. Perhaps I am wrong? I really don't think so but have known many saying the same thing... Bruce Prochnau - Original Message - From: c h a i m [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS CivicSpace was designed to do all of these. It is built on Drupal, but has not been updated to work with the last 3 Latest releases including the current Drupal 4.7.3 On 9/8/06, Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wonsil Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:13 AM To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS CivicSpace was designed to do all of these. It is built on Drupal. You can demo either at: CivicSpace: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=510 Drupal: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=132 Roberto Scano: Also their backend conform to accessibility requirements? ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- chaim cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS
Also take a look around at OpenSource CMS, All of the CMS they have listed link to working demos. http://www.opensourcecms.com/ -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG Sent: September 8, 2006 3:34 AM To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wonsil Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:13 AM To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS CivicSpace was designed to do all of these. It is built on Drupal. You can demo either at: CivicSpace: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=510 Drupal: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=132 Roberto Scano: Also their backend conform to accessibility requirements? ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS
I replied before reading further and had not noticed http://www.opensourcecms.com/ was already suggested, The lesson I learned today is: Read before you Write. -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG Sent: September 8, 2006 3:34 AM To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wonsil Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:13 AM To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS CivicSpace was designed to do all of these. It is built on Drupal. You can demo either at: CivicSpace: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=510 Drupal: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=132 Roberto Scano: Also their backend conform to accessibility requirements? ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS
At the risk of taking this thread somewhere else completely, I would suggest you consider Wordpress (wordpress.org). Yes, it's a blogging tool, but in point of fact it's little more than a CMS with a bent toward blogging. My whole site (http://clwill.com) is driven by it, and yet the blog is only one part of it. Because of this CMS nature I get things like searching and tagging for free. WP is infinitely configurable, easy to write/post in, and has 12-bazillion third-party plug-ins to do a huge range of things. No, it doesn't do your laundry list of things right out of the box, but if you want flexibility built on a solid base (its been downloaded over a million times), it's a great place to start... for free. Just my $0.02, Chris -Original Message- From: Bruce Subject: Re: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS My only criteria for a CMS is configurability. I have installed Drupal, Mambo and related on quite a few occasions. Always seems to be configuration issues. Using them as is will be fine, but I always found that when you want to do customizations, anything more than a drop in template, the way they are programmed, the templates, menu systems etc make it very difficult to do so. Perhaps I am wrong? I really don't think so but have known many saying the same thing... ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
Re: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS
I know I'm chiming in a bit late, but here goes. I am a bit partial to the Textpattern CMS myself. I and a few other guys are writing a book on it for Friends of ED. Its templating engine is incredibly flexible, so you can use any flavor of XHTML you want. http://textpattern.com/ -- Nathan Smith 208 348 2213 - w 859 229 9587 - m http://sonspring.com On 9/7/06, Elle Meredith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I am new to CMS and find it hard to select one that will work for me and my client (non-profit organisation) and thought I could use some advice. I am interested in a CMS that is: * XHTML Strict * Built-in Accessibility features. I also need one that has the following: * Blog with commenting * RSS syndication * Events calendar and option for people to sign up for events * Basic image galleries * Search options * Donation option in the future I was looking at Xaraya or Web GUI. But any advice would be much appreciated. Cheers, Elle ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
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Nathan Smith wrote: http://textpattern.com/ Yeah, TXP rocks! I kinda get tired of hearing WP is so great. :) Stoked to hear that Friends of Ed are writing a book for it. -- Wishlist: http://snipurl.com/vrs9 Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
RE: [WSG CMS] Strict CMS
I am interested in a CMS that is: * XHTML Strict * Built-in Accessibility features. I also need one that has the following: * Blog with commenting * RSS syndication * Events calendar and option for people to sign up for events * Basic image galleries * Search options * Donation option in the future I was looking at Xaraya or Web GUI. But any advice would be much appreciated. CivicSpace was designed to do all of these. It is built on Drupal. You can demo either at: CivicSpace: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=510 Drupal: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=132 Mark W. ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
