Tee G. Peng wrote:
Client came back that the member profile markup was replaced because
her client's programmer said dl is not standard practise. She also
questioned my choice of the new markup with definition list again, she
said she can't submit it to her client therefor needs an
Christian Montoya wrote:
On 10/11/06, Rob O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tee G. Peng wrote:
Client came back that the member profile markup was replaced because
her client's programmer said dl is not standard practise. She also
questioned my choice of the new markup with definition list
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Rob O'Rourke wrote:
Well yeah but its never that straightforward though, I've been
messing with dls inside forms recently and there are loads of IE
quirks and cross browser differences even before adding any scripts.
Strange, I've never had issues like that with DLs
Mel wrote:
on 13/10/2006 19:29 Rob O'Rourke said the following:
I thought the legend tag was supposed to offer some effects for
screen readers when reading out the form controls. Out of curiosity
do you know which screen reader it is?
JAWS? I've come across some evidence that suggest
Anders Nawroth wrote:
Terrence Wood skrev:
Here's the easy fix: just remove the href attribute. An anchor
element sans ANY attribute is perfectly acceptable HTML[3]. It
inherits CSS as expected and doesn't appear in any link collection.
I've found that IE has problems when applying CSS to
morten fjellman wrote:
Hi list,
I'm marking up a chat board, and I'm wondering how I should tag the
actual message? The message would typically be:
NickName says:
Ain't this cool?
I was thinking a DL, like this:
dl
dtNickName says:/dt
ddAin't this cool?/dd
/dl
Am I way off here?
James Crooke wrote:
*frowns*
Using dl for marking up dialogue is generally frowned upon because
dl is
widely considered to be for marking up definitions. Tantek has
provided
a more semantic example of in a old presentation of his.
See XHTML Compound: Conversation.
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Rob O'Rourke wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Using dl for marking up dialogue is generally frowned upon
because dl is widely considered to be for marking up
definitions. Tantek has provided a more semantic example of in
a old presentation of his.
See XHTML
Tony Crockford wrote:
Christian Montoya wrote:
Otherwise I
will just have to keep on assuming that these specters don't exist.
There are one or two font-size fanatics that will accuse you of not
respecting your users if you feel the need to set a font size other
than default.
does that
Hello there,
I've been putting my CV together but I don't have a mac for testing,
a friend of mine who does said that when the page loads up in safari it
immediately jumps to where it says 'Web designer and developer'. I'm
stumped as to what might be causing it.
The page in question is at
Steve Green wrote:
I'm running Safari 2.0 and it does jump. However, it does not jump
immediately. When you hover over a link the page reloads and this is when it
jumps (not always to the same place). The same happens if you press the Tab
key after the page loads. It does this even if JavaScript
Steve Green wrote:
Wow, it's even worse now (or maybe it would have done this before but I
never tried it).
If I hover the mouse over a link and leave it there, the page continuously
reloads and it jumps up and down between the Cocktail Bartender and Web
Designer subheadings. It gets slower and
It's now jumping on load to the bit where you have:
object style=display:none; data=#robert-orourke class=include
type=text/html/object
just before
h3 class=summary titleWeb Designer and Developer/h3
so it looks like something to do with the object referencing part of
the page via a URL
Steve Green wrote:
It seems better but when I hover over a link it still reloads, jumps down to
the Cocktail Bartender subheading then up to the Web Designer subheading. At
least it doesn't bounce up and down continuously and crash the browser.
Steve
Is that even with the objects removed?
Steve Green wrote:
No, it's ok now. My last post was before you removed the objects.
Steve
WooHoo! I was all ready to drown my sorrows in lager but this deserves a
martini =]
Nice one
Rob O
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Dwain Alford wrote:
Where I am (Ithaca NY), there's very little CSS-based work; they even
teach outdated practices:
http://www.christianmontoya.com/2006/11/02/advanced-html/
where i am (winfield, alabama) they still use frames and tables and do
it wysiwyg. they know nothing of
~davidLaakso wrote:
Rob O'Rourke wrote:
~davidLaakso wrote:
And perhaps a little contemplation about the questions you did not
ask with regard to that page...?
I wanted to think about other things for a while... I'd love to hear
any suggestions as to where I could improve it. I honestly
snip
Sorry everyone, went OT there. That last reply to my thread wasn't meant
to go to the list.
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Tee G. Peng wrote:
Hi, I am doing a layout that requires equal height for each column and
row, however the contents inside of each column and row are different
and in some pages, in certain sections, the length of the content will
be decided by end users' data feed. Each column, each row has
Tee G. Peng wrote:
Seems odd that resizing the font would affect the bottom margins. Do
you have a demo or screenshot? I'll have a go at getting it to work
myself but I think that the table-layout method would be best for
forward compatibility. Keep us posted.
Rob, was experimenting
Barney Carroll wrote:
Anybody know about this?
body:last-child ... {}
I saw this a while back and chuckled, but today I found cause to use
it. It's supposedly a hack for WebKit browsers (I don't understand how
there could be any ambiguity over what the last child of the body
could be, but
Hi all,
Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone has had any
experience with or has read something about the accessibility of a form
that uses the value attribute to convey what the field is for. I'm
talking about those forms where there is something already filled in for
the field to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We come across this sort of thing a lot during user testing and we find that
default text in textboxes and text areas causes loads of problems. However,
using the default value of a combobox as the label generally works well and I
have never seen it cause any problems.
Jixor - Stephen I wrote:
There is a few PHP (and php+perl/etc) things out there that do html to
pdf but none of them are quite right. One will find that they need to
spend a lot of time tweaking their output and if you are printing with
complex floats even add additional markup to compensate
Robin @ Xplore.net wrote:
I am having a problem in firefox with my outer div not streching when the
inner div content exceeds the template width, the page looks ok in ie7,
could anyone enlighten me please.
http://gilescadman.com/test_folder/index.htm
thanks
Robin
Sounds like IE7 is
What about
h2Title of the article span class=date9-12-2006/span/h2
?
I must admit i'm a bit of a css positioning junkie, I always do stuff
like that in my h1s but thats the structure i use for my news articles.
Rob O
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Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote:
Mike,
Thats an interesting point. I always thought that any given dt or
dd should hold one piece of information only. If nesting stuff
inside them like that is completely legit that certainly opens up a
lot of possibilities.
Consider this:
dl
dtimg
akella wrote:
The date in design - so it's just better for it to go first in code
too.
Right, thanks. It makes sense and it seems to be the norm on every news
related thing I've looked at in the last half hour.
So my problem was that i just cant use h3-h2 - considering its
not logically
Hi all,
I had the last letter of some floated form elements appearing on the
next line. I've managed to get rid of the letter itself with position:
relative; on the form input but there's still a 'phantom line' in IE
adding a load of 'padding' to the bottom of the label or fieldset.
The problem
� wrote:
Rob O'Rourke wrote:
I had the last letter of some floated form elements appearing on the
next line. I've managed to get rid of the letter itself with
position: relative; on the form input but there's still a 'phantom
line' in IE adding a load of 'padding' to the bottom of the label
Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
On 13 Dec 2006, at 19:39:17, Rob O'Rourke wrote:
I found the PIE page i was looking for [1], it was the duplicate
characters bug however none of the triggers mentioned on that page
were present... as far as i could work out anyway.
[1] http
Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
On 13 Dec 2006, at 22:18:42, Rob O'Rourke wrote:
I need to get control of what hasLayout and what doesn't before I can
work out what's really going on.
Use Microsoft's IE Developer Toolbar's DOM Inspector:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid
Barney Carroll wrote:
...snip...
Update:
Couldn't get csshover.htc to work - dumped it in with my stylesheets
and called it via body{behavior:url(stylesheets/csshover.htc)} but it
wouldn't have any effect... May turn out to be a stupid oversight...
...snip...
Regards,
Barney
Hi Barney,
Hassan Schroeder wrote:
Steve Green wrote:
We do a lot of user testing with screen reader users,...
Also Flash movies are made in layers.
Have you tested any (non-timelined) Flex-based sites or apps?
Just my two pence but I think what you really need to do is add an
Steve Green wrote:
Audio opens up a new can of worms. It certainly should not start
automatically because that causes problems for several user groups, not just
those with disabilities. It could benefit some users but you shouldn't
implement it in a way that is to the detriment of others.
Some
Matthew Smith wrote:
Quoth (haha) Rob O'Rourke at 01/11/07 03:57...
Just my two pence but I think what you really need to do is add an
audio layer to that flash site. As an example one of the sites we
host (its not at all accessible code-wise) has audio to say hello and
indicate what you can
Jermayn Parker wrote:
The thing that gets me with this discussion is why create all these features
to cover up the problem?
If you created it in XHTML/ php etc and not flash, you would not have these
problems and then you would not have to spend extra time fixing the problems
that has been
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
Oh boy..! Ok..!. :D I am not the author of that page.
It was just a bad examle of Blind people community website :D
But hey!..thanks for links anyway!
cya!
Mihael
Haha! sorry Mihael I thought it was your site and you were asking for
comments!
d'oh
and yes, it is
Elle Meredith wrote:
Hey,
Just got 3 questions that are actually on 3 separate subjects:
1. I have a flash slide show in a page header and the page's logo is
positioned absolutely with higher z-index on top of the flash object
but only some of the logo is on top of the flash slideshow. Every
Christian Montoya wrote:
On 1/12/07, Marcio Werneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello !
I have a doubt regarding putting the logo in an H tag.
Wrapping the website logo in an H1, is a good practice? - always?
I have done the following with multiple sites:
h1img src=logo alt=site title/h1
And
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
On 1/12/07, *Mihael Zadravec* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/12/07, *Rob O'Rourke* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christian Montoya wrote:
On 1/12/07, Marcio Werneck [EMAIL PROTECTED
Hi everyone,
While we are on the subject I remembered something I came across
ages ago and never took the time to get to know how to use it.
The site is http://www.webbie.org.uk
The page that explains its use is
http://www.webbie.org.uk/webbiefordesigners.htm and definitely worth
more
Carl Reynolds wrote:
I apologize for an off topic question. I tried to get an answer from
the webstandarsgroup web site first, but got no response. I'm certain
I have seen some of the same people here and at the WebDesign-L
mailing list so I wanted to find out if any of you have had problems
Michael MD wrote:
? I just tried sending a fairly complex HTML email that uses tables
and is *totally* styled with inline CSS to my gmail account -- and
it renders exactly as I'd expect.
That might be fine for webmail accounts where you are using a web
browser but what about desktop email
Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer wrote:
Christian in your opinion - those sites are inaccessible... without
any argues
I cannot agree so that's why I've asked...
Accessibility is making a site available and usable to the widest
possible audience, on as many user agents as possible. A
Sunday John wrote:
Yea, I agree with your comment. Contents that is available through xml for
flash improves performance. Also given the user a choice to switch to
version of site is good idea to meet end users viewing experience.
Like I said, all still boils down to the project goal, target
Christian Montoya wrote:
On 2/2/07, Mark Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
miden wrote:
Interesting letter on The Register WRT accessiblity:
...it's very hard to see why the tiny amount of forethought website
authors could show toward accessibility in the very beginning is so
terribly
Tee G. Peng wrote:
The site is face-slapping beautiful for the first 80%, and then I
reach the footer and it's like I'm on a different site. Besides the
footer text being incredibly tiny, the lack of alignment among the
form elements makes it look like you just ignored designing that part
of
Teresa Carroll wrote:
Hello All,
I am looking to add RSS feeds to a Web site I am developing. I was
wondering if anyone has used a
software product that adds the links to a Web site automatically. I
would like to hear people's thoughts and experiences
before I began creating this part of
Kevin McMonagle wrote:
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article:
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/the_perfect_drop_cap.asp
Looks good, if you decrease the font size by one or two than the drop cap indent goes way in.
Is there a way to fix that.
-best
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