Re: An open letter to Dirk Lutzebaeck

2002-03-06 Thread Dirk Lutzebaeck
Hello Mark, I just read the recent discussions about the lists archive. What I promised to do was to feed escribe with the older archive I have preserved. I'm very sorry to admit that it is merely a time problem to that I have and not the lack of interest. Since this topic is brought up again

Re: listening-l missing archives

2002-03-06 Thread James Jackson
mark: I wrote privately to Dirk, asking whether the archive would be preserved. I recall that he replied saying that he was looking for a suitable home. There was some public discussion at that time m(Feb 2001), which you and JJ were actively engaged in, where he said pretty much the same

Re: under the influence of K

2002-03-06 Thread Greg VanTongeren
- Original Message - From: Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg VanTongeren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: listening-l [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: Re: under the influence of K Greg VanTongeren wrote: : [hj] Dissatisfaction doesn't necessarily lead

Re: Dialog on the List

2002-03-06 Thread Greg VanTongeren
- Original Message - From: r_w_j [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg VanTongeren [EMAIL PROTECTED]; listening-l [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 5:24 PM Subject: Re: Dialog on the List : : : [gdv:] : K's approach seems geared to a psyche for : which sensation and logic

Dialog on the List

2002-03-06 Thread Greg VanTongeren
- Original Message -From: "r_w_j" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Greg VanTongeren" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "listening-l"[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dialog on the List : : : [gdv:] : K's approach seems geared to a psyche for : which sensation and logic

Re: An open letter to Dirk Lutzebaeck

2002-03-06 Thread MarkMos1
In a message dated 3/6/2002 4:34:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Mark, I just read the recent discussions about the lists archive. What I promised to do was to feed escribe with the older archive I have preserved. I'm very sorry to admit that it is merely a

Re: listening-l missing archives

2002-03-06 Thread Sundar Rajan
--- James Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark: I wrote privately to Dirk, asking whether the archive would be preserved. I recall that he replied saying that he was looking for a suitable home. There was some public discussion at that time m(Feb 2001), which you and JJ were

Re: An open letter to Dirk Lutzebaeck

2002-03-06 Thread Sundar Rajan
--- Sam Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Mark, I just read the recent discussions about the lists archive. What I promised to do was to feed escribe with the older archive I have preserved. I'm very sorry to admit that it is merely a time problem to that I have and not the

Re: An open letter to Dirk Lutzebaeck

2002-03-06 Thread Sam Paul
Sundar: I am sorry, your statement needs to be substantiated with facts. There may have been junk on that forum, but ascribing that to a few persons points something behind that allegation. It is really unwarranted. SP: Do you think that you fall in the category of those who I mentioned

Re: listening-l missing archives

2002-03-06 Thread James Jackson
--- mark: I wrote privately to Dirk, asking whether the archive would be preserved. I recall that he replied saying that he was looking for a suitable home. There was some public discussion at that time m(Feb 2001), which you and JJ were actively engaged in, where he said

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Re: under the [K] influence (merv)

2002-03-06 Thread LoveChld11
At one point K says that he is addressing the unconscious mind of his listeners. Why? Because K wanted to cause the unconscious mind to become a part of the conscious mind, and this cease to be the unconscious. Bob: K often employed the language of those with whom he dialoged. But

Re: An open letter to Dirk Lutzebaeck

2002-03-06 Thread Marilyn
SP: It is interesting that those who are most concerned about accessing the archives are the ones who have posted the most junk on this forum. Sundar: I am sorry, your statement needs to be substantiated with facts. There may have been junk on that forum, but ascribing that to a

Re: listening-l missing archives

2002-03-06 Thread Marilyn
mark: I wrote privately to Dirk, asking whether the archive would be preserved. I recall that he replied saying that he was looking for a suitable home. There was some public discussion at that time m(Feb 2001), which you and JJ were actively engaged in, where he said pretty much the

Re: An open letter to Dirk Lutzebaeck

2002-03-06 Thread Marilyn
Hello Mark, I just read the recent discussions about the lists archive. What I promised to do was to feed escribe with the older archive I have preserved. I'm very sorry to admit that it is merely a time problem to that I have and not the lack of interest. Since this topic is brought

Re: Blah/a little story

2002-03-06 Thread Marilyn
: --- Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Margaret: I worked in a psychiatric hospital as a technician for some time and was also surprised to see that the most severely disturbed were almost never physically sick. Anne: This is curious. Likely true.

Re: An open letter to Dirk Lutzebaeck

2002-03-06 Thread Sam Paul
Marilyn: To stand in the position of judging what is another's junk is beyond any position I would want to take or dare to take. SP: Then it is simple: do not take that position. :-) I've always heard that 'what is one man's junk is another man's treasure.' It doesn't seem to bother

Re: listening-l missing archives

2002-03-06 Thread Sam Paul
Marilyn: It is not just listening-l that people have lost interest in. The foundations are saying that book sales of K's work and support of all his work has declined. SP: Interesting. Is there any communication from the foundations that you can refer us to? Or, is it just word-of-mouth?

Re: under the [K] influence (merv)

2002-03-06 Thread Merv
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:25 PM Subject: Re: under the [K] influence (merv) At one point K says that he is addressing the unconscious mind of his

Useless teachings

2002-03-06 Thread Skye Chambers
Marilyn: It is not just listening-l that people have lost interest in. The foundations are saying that book sales of K's work and support of all his work has declined. SP: Interesting. Is there any communication from the foundations that you can refer us to? Or, is it just word-of-mouth?

Re: listening-l missing archives

2002-03-06 Thread Marilyn
Marilyn: It is not just listening-l that people have lost interest in. The foundations are saying that book sales of K's work and support of all his work has declined. SP: Interesting. Is there any communication from the foundations that you can refer us to? Or, is it just

Re: under the [K] influence (merv)

2002-03-06 Thread LoveChld11
At one point K says that he is addressing the unconscious mind of his listeners. Why? Because K wanted to cause the unconscious mind to become a part of the conscious mind, and this cease to be the unconscious. Bob: K often employed the language of those with whom he dialoged. But

Re: Useless teachings

2002-03-06 Thread MarkMos1
In a message dated 3/6/2002 7:57:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marilyn: It is not just listening-l that people have lost interest in. The foundations are saying that book sales of K's work and support of all his work has declined. SP: Interesting. Is there

Re: Blah/a little story

2002-03-06 Thread MarkMos1
In a message dated 3/5/2002 11:18:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj:Re: Blah/a little story Date:3/5/2002 11:18:37 AM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marilyn) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marilyn: What is one to do when one is trapped

Re: under the [K] influence (merv)

2002-03-06 Thread Merv
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: Re: under the [K] influence (merv)Bob: When you say there are some things youare aware of and some you are not, I

Re: under the [K] influence (merv)

2002-03-06 Thread LoveChld11
Bob: When you say there are some things you are aware of and some you are not, I question what you mean by awareness, by you, and by those things. The psychoanalytical presumption is that there are actually differences in these three areas of reaction, that is to say that each exists factually,

Re: Useless teachings (mark)

2002-03-06 Thread LoveChld11
Marilyn: It is not just listening-l that people have lost interest in. The foundations are saying that book sales of K's work and support of all his work has declined. SP: Interesting. Is there any communication from the foundations that you can refer us to? Or, is it just

Re: Useless teachings

2002-03-06 Thread Skye Chambers
Marilyn: It is not just listening-l that people have lost interest in. The foundations are saying that book sales of K's work and support of all his work has declined. SP: Interesting. Is there any communication from the foundations that you can refer us to? Or, is it just

Re: under the [K] influence (merv)

2002-03-06 Thread Merv
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: Re: under the [K] influence (merv) Bob: You are saying, "whether you think that it does ornot". Could it also be