Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-17 Thread Cameron Shorter
Peter, each application is only mentioned once, (the 52 North team have built a number of stand alone applications, all with the same naming convention). It is tempting to have a number of duplicates, or maybe use tags, but I think it more important to keep it simple. Noting that: * The prim

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-16 Thread Peter Baumann
hm, while I still find that Web Services in this field mostly are data services, I'm looking into the classification again finding that, eg, 52north is listed multiply. Therefore, let me suggest to resolve the dichotomy with - Web services: rasdaman/petascope -- WMS, WCS, WCPS, WCS-T, and WP

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-16 Thread Cameron Shorter
Categorisation is only ever going to be a rough best guess that won't fit all cases, but better to have than nothing. It is also based on user perception. If my main purpose for rasdaman is to run SQL queries on it, then I'd categorise it as a DataStore. If it is largely used for WPCS and WPS,

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-16 Thread Peter Baumann
I'm completely on board about MapServer - actually, in my classification sketched below it is a service indeed, whereas DBMSs form another category of services. BTW, MapServer is not a Web server either - it needs Apache or similar to run. But it offers WCS, just like rasdaman (a DBMS) does, for

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-16 Thread Stefan Steiniger
well, but I would not count MapServer as a DBMS, If a DBMS has service functions and supports services, then so be it, but it still is a DBMS and not a Web-Server... or? I.e. one is to manage data and the other is to serve data over the internet. maybe? Am 16.12.12 17:44, schrieb Peter Baumann

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-16 Thread Peter Baumann
Cameron- sorry for the silence, just now I can come back on this again. From a client perspective, we share WCS support; the differentiating criterion I see as follows (EOX, please correct if necessary): - EOxServer's main mission is EO-WCS, and it also supports WCS; - rasdaman's main mission

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-16 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hi Cameron, your classification looks good to me. Calling the second category "Browser Facing GIS" should be good for GIS newbies. I, in a categorization that I have done lately, put it into only one class: "Web Map application development frameworks" (MapFish, GeoMoose, ...). But I tend latel

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-13 Thread Stephan Meißl
Cameron, I'd argue that the two are different enough to be categorized differently. rasdaman manages raster data stored in PostgreSQL which is exposed by its Petascope component via OGC services. EOxServer in turn focuses on the OGC services part and accesses raster data stored in different ways l

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-13 Thread Cameron Shorter
I've had a go at updating the categorisations of the OSGeo-Live projects, and would be interested to hear feedback. http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/overview/overview.html Desktop GIS General GIS viewing, editing, and analysis on the desktop: * /Quantum GIS (QGIS)/

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-12 Thread Cameron Shorter
Peter, Coming back to this question of categorisation. It seems that EOxServer is similar to Rasdaman, and probably should be listed next to it? Is that reasonable? If so, should both EOxServer and Rasdaman be categorised under "Data Stores" or under Web Services? To make that decision, I'd

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-11 Thread Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
orter [mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:25 PM To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) Cc: Barry Rowlingson; live-demo@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects Bob, I'd like to see a table developed for the standards page, listing projects a

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-11 Thread Cameron Shorter
ailto:live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Barry Rowlingson *Sent:* Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:25 PM *To:* Cameron Shorter *Cc:* live-demo@lists.osgeo.org *Subject:* Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects On 9 December 2012 19:24, Cameron Shorter <mailto:cameron.sh

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-11 Thread Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
ties associated with the projects under the OSGeo umbrella. Bobb From: live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Barry Rowlingson Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:25 PM To: Cameron Shorter Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Live-demo]

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-10 Thread Daniel Kastl
> > > 2. "Databases" might be better as "Spatial Data Storage and Management". > I'd take pgRouting off that category. > > 5. Put pgRouting and the remaining GPS-related packages into a Tracking > and Routing category. > > I wouldn't do this for 2 reasons: 1) pgRouting may eventually become part

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-10 Thread Cameron Shorter
On 10/12/2012 9:24 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: On 9 December 2012 19:24, Cameron Shorter > wrote: As I'm reviewing the OSGeo-Live overview contents [1], I think that we should be recategorising some of the projects. Here are my suggestions Ra

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-09 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On 9 December 2012 19:24, Cameron Shorter wrote: > As I'm reviewing the OSGeo-Live overview contents [1], I think that we > should be recategorising some of the projects. Here are my suggestions > > Rasdaman - Move from Databases to Web Services (I understand it is best > described as a WCS) > >

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-09 Thread Cameron Shorter
Ok, thanks for the heads up. On 10/12/12 07:14, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: I agree with Peter: rasdaman is better categorized under DBMS. OGC web services are extra functionality in rasdaman. Best, Angelos On 12/09/2012 09:34 PM, Peter Baumann wrote: Cameron- re rasdaman, it is a DBMS indeed,

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-09 Thread Angelos Tzotsos
I agree with Peter: rasdaman is better categorized under DBMS. OGC web services are extra functionality in rasdaman. Best, Angelos On 12/09/2012 09:34 PM, Peter Baumann wrote: Cameron- re rasdaman, it is a DBMS indeed, in the same category as PostGIS. For example, rasdaman comes with a mult

Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-09 Thread Peter Baumann
Cameron- re rasdaman, it is a DBMS indeed, in the same category as PostGIS. For example, rasdaman comes with a multi-dimensional spatio-temporal query language; in terms of OGC standards, WCS is just one rather limited functionality, there's also WMS, WCPS, and WPS. Generally, the cagetoriza

[Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

2012-12-09 Thread Cameron Shorter
As I'm reviewing the OSGeo-Live overview contents [1], I think that we should be recategorising some of the projects. Here are my suggestions Rasdaman - Move from Databases to Web Services (I understand it is best described as a WCS) GDAL - Move from "Spatial Tools" to "Geospatial Libraries"