Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year

[Daniel Kastl]

I think rolling releases would be nice.
If a project has a new release and misses the deadline for a new OSGeo Live
release, it will have to wait another year.
Or even worse, if a new release contains a bug, it will be difficult to
provide a fix for a long time.
However, the arguments for one release per year are absolutely valid.

How about a mix of both?
I think there are projects, that are fully or almost automated, and that
rarely cause problems.
Projects, that follow certain criteria to allow automation, could be
included in rolling releases, and projects, that require a lot of manual
work, will only be updated once per year.
Eventually this will help to push some projects to provide Debian packages,
and some projects that update rarely, will probably be OK with one release
per year.

Daniel






On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) <
bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us> wrote:

> All,
>
> I like the rolling release idea, it will allow for a always up to date
> version of things.  The Stable (yearly) release will always be floating in
> the background too.  Not so sure about the Yearly release schedule though.
> Maybe Yearly at a minimum?  There might be those instances where a yearly
> cycle won’t sync up with OSGeo project, event, etc.
>
> Still a +1
>
>
> bobb
>
> On Apr 24, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Cameron Shorter 
> wrote:
>
> As per weekly meeting discussion, we propose to switch from putting out
> two releases per year to putting out one main release per year.
>
> We will likely also be putting out rolling releases which have been
> untested.
>
> Reasons:
>
> * As per prior discussions, we want to use our volunteer time more
> efficiently.
>
> * We have improved build processes to be agile and efficient. However, our
> final test process still has significant manual testing. In particular
> around reviewing and updating documentation, and testing quickstarts.
>
> Please comment and or vote on this proposal.
>
> +1 Cameron
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Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I like the rolling release idea, it will allow for a always up to date version 
of things.  The Stable (yearly) release will always be floating in the 
background too.  Not so sure about the Yearly release schedule though.  Maybe 
Yearly at a minimum?  There might be those instances where a yearly cycle won’t 
sync up with OSGeo project, event, etc.

Still a +1


bobb
On Apr 24, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Cameron Shorter 
> wrote:

As per weekly meeting discussion, we propose to switch from putting out two 
releases per year to putting out one main release per year.

We will likely also be putting out rolling releases which have been untested.

Reasons:

* As per prior discussions, we want to use our volunteer time more efficiently.

* We have improved build processes to be agile and efficient. However, our 
final test process still has significant manual testing. In particular around 
reviewing and updating documentation, and testing quickstarts.

Please comment and or vote on this proposal.

+1 Cameron


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Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year

[Angelos Tzotsos]

+1
Angelos

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Regina Obe <l...@pcorp.us> wrote:

> +1
>
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> *From:* Live-demo [mailto:live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf
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> *Subject:* Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year
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>
>
> from pgRouting +1
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Cameron Shorter <
> cameron.shor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As per weekly meeting discussion, we propose to switch from putting out
> two releases per year to putting out one main release per year.
>
> We will likely also be putting out rolling releases which have been
> untested.
>
> Reasons:
>
> * As per prior discussions, we want to use our volunteer time more
> efficiently.
>
> * We have improved build processes to be agile and efficient. However, our
> final test process still has significant manual testing. In particular
> around reviewing and updating documentation, and testing quickstarts.
>
> Please comment and or vote on this proposal.
>
> +1 Cameron
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Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year

[Sebastiaan Couwenberg]

On 04/25/2017 01:16 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> As per weekly meeting discussion, we propose to switch from putting out
> two releases per year to putting out one main release per year.

-0

Release early, release often. Keep momentum by starting to work on the
next release after the most recent final release.

But that assumes there are people willing to do the work, which doesn't
seem to be the case in sufficient quantities. So don't release until
there is sufficient manpower to make a good one.

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year

[Vicky Vergara]

from pgRouting +1

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Cameron Shorter 
wrote:

> As per weekly meeting discussion, we propose to switch from putting out
> two releases per year to putting out one main release per year.
>
> We will likely also be putting out rolling releases which have been
> untested.
>
> Reasons:
>
> * As per prior discussions, we want to use our volunteer time more
> efficiently.
>
> * We have improved build processes to be agile and efficient. However, our
> final test process still has significant manual testing. In particular
> around reviewing and updating documentation, and testing quickstarts.
>
> Please comment and or vote on this proposal.
>
> +1 Cameron
>
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Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

+1. The rolling release should address the needs of those who need 
something more recent.


Kind regards,
Ben.


On 25/04/17 11:16, Cameron Shorter wrote:

As per weekly meeting discussion, we propose to switch from putting out
two releases per year to putting out one main release per year.

We will likely also be putting out rolling releases which have been
untested.

Reasons:

* As per prior discussions, we want to use our volunteer time more
efficiently.

* We have improved build processes to be agile and efficient. However,
our final test process still has significant manual testing. In
particular around reviewing and updating documentation, and testing
quickstarts.

Please comment and or vote on this proposal.

+1 Cameron




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[Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year

[Cameron Shorter]

As per weekly meeting discussion, we propose to switch from putting out 
two releases per year to putting out one main release per year.


We will likely also be putting out rolling releases which have been 
untested.


Reasons:

* As per prior discussions, we want to use our volunteer time more 
efficiently.


* We have improved build processes to be agile and efficient. However, 
our final test process still has significant manual testing. In 
particular around reviewing and updating documentation, and testing 
quickstarts.


Please comment and or vote on this proposal.

+1 Cameron


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