Re: [LMMS-devel] Strengths and weeknesses

2015-01-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
There's also this one: https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/1727 If you download the VST mda Detune here: http://www.mda-vst.com/vst/mda_vst_fx_win.zip And then use it as an effect on a mixer, it won't show the controls button. -

Re: [LMMS-devel] Strengths and weeknesses

2015-01-30 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/1631 This bug makes muting automation tracks unusable (because they are not saved). It would be brilliant if you could restore that feature, it broke from 1.0.3 to 1.1.0. -- View this message in context: http://linux-multimedia-studio-lmms.996328.n3.nabble.c

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread musikbear
but 'super-instruments' would take more RAM, and what would be good about that? imo modulized components are better than big chunky multipurpose ones ..or? -- View this message in context: http://linux-multimedia-studio-lmms.996328.n3.nabble.com/About-native-plugins-tp11535p11549.html Sent f

[LMMS-devel] Strengths and weeknesses

2015-01-30 Thread Dave French
Mine Strength : I can cobble together some code. Weakness: I can never decide what to work on next. I spend hours looking at the tracker. not deciding. I know thats not good and am asking for some help. I see a few members of the team who's organizing skills are far better than mine. Would anyone

Re: [LMMS-devel] Mixer issues

2015-01-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:01:38PM +, Dave French wrote: > mind if i take a look? Go ahead! :-) -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership

Re: [LMMS-devel] Mixer issues

2015-01-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
1584 is already fixed by a PR (1678) that I sent some days ago, I am just awaiting review. 605 I am not working on yet, if you want to take it, go ahead. But it would be better to await 1678 be merged as it touches this area. ---

Re: [LMMS-devel] Mixer issues

2015-01-30 Thread Dave French
mind if i take a look? On 30 January 2015 at 21:55, Amadeus Folego wrote: > Not yet, and I don't know even if I am able to fix it. > -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by

Re: [LMMS-devel] Mixer issues

2015-01-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
Not yet, and I don't know even if I am able to fix it. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all thing

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 06:42:16PM +, Dave French wrote: > @Amadeus > >  start reading a book on LV2, checkout greippi's branch and make it real. > > I came across this. The documentation on making an LV2 host. > http://lv2plug.in/pages/developing.html Thanks Dave! I am going to take a look

Re: [LMMS-devel] Mixer issues

2015-01-30 Thread Dave French
Amadeus Have you looked into 1662 yet? if not I will take a look. @Tres thanks for point it out :) On 30 January 2015 at 21:41, Amadeus Folego wrote: > 1584 is already fixed by a PR (1678) that I sent some days ago, I am just > awaiting review. > > 605 I am not working on yet, if you want to ta

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread I'm Umcaruje
> > How do you do it? Carla in LMMS? You need the carla-git package from the kxstudio repositories( http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Repositories). Then just do a fresh build of LMMS, and it should find all your LV2 plugins and you will be able to use them using 'Carla Rack' or 'Carla Patchbay' i

Re: [LMMS-devel] Mixer issues

2015-01-30 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
1662 Clicks and pops on VST tracks that are assigned to FX channels - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Dave French wrote: > I have seen mentions of mixer performace issues. I have been looking > through the 1.2 issue list and

[LMMS-devel] Mixer issues

2015-01-30 Thread Dave French
I have seen mentions of mixer performace issues. I have been looking through the 1.2 issue list and can only see 2 open. 1584 crash when moving mixer channel left and right. 605 drag and drop mixer channels. 605 if im reading correctly Amadeus is already working on this. 1584 not looked into all

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:06:35PM +0100, I'm Umcaruje wrote: > I agree with Amadeus that its better to work on enhancing our current LV2/VST > support (we already have partial LV2 instrument support using Carla, and imo > that is insanely awesome) instead of making more native synths.  How do you

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread I'm Umcaruje
I am seriously tired of people calling LMMS synths toys and suggesting they aren't powerful. Have you ever heard Rebellion ? Its a song made only by using TripleOscillator, a toy synth. There is a big potential in LMMS synths, and I prefer that they a

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Dave French
I know im late to this conversation, so i wont say much. I do feel that plugin support is more valuable that writing plugins , If the time put into creating 3 - 4 top end native plugins was put into supporting other plugins, we could have hundreds of top end plugins, and thousands of other smaller

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Phil (list)
On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 18:13 +0100, DeRobyJ wrote: > Lastly, I'm not able to actually help with the program yet, writing or > fixing code, that's why I'm not doing it. One thing about a project of this scale is that it needs a whole lot more than just programmers. Right now there's a discussion a

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
So you've bought an old mosque and you want to fix it up. To do so you need both help and support. For financial support and perhaps for pragmatic reasons, you open it up in a disheveled condition with the hope that people will come to use it as a service, but also give go it as a community and m

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread DeRobyJ
I know, I don't like the fact that I'll be forced to use ableton and cubase for these same reasons. While I love LMMS and Audacity for being powerful without annoying my RAM with graphics. But I can't not say that trying to work a bit on that way may bring us more users and developers. I just co

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > > But I have to acknowledge that I don't like showing LMMS to my > colleagues (if I don't know them well), because I fear to hear the words > I've written here... Sure but Rome wasn't built in a day . We have 80,000 lines of code bet

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 05:44:55PM +0100, DeRobyJ wrote: > When I try my sounds (the christmass gift supersaw, my sky cathedral > organ, the Erazzor, the lb302 AcidLead with delay), other students do > ask me what they are, then look at the PC, don't see a thing, and in 15 > seconds they leave.

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread DeRobyJ
I'm sorry for these words of mine, I forgot the hard work put into LMMS. What I failed to point, and what, in my mind, my words were intended for, is the comment that a non-user of LMMS would do to those plugins, someone that just judges from the first impression. Except for presets, I think wh

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:54:04AM -0500, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > Then make a new GUI and shut up.  What on earth do you expect from this > comment?  How does this help anything?  That's like telling Honda their cars > need neon lights out of the factory so that kids that can't drive will buy > t

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > > LMMS is great for cultured electronic musicians, but will never > interest DJs, wonna-bes, hybrid traditional-electronic musicians, because > the GUI doesn't have leds that say "WATCH ME I'M AWESOME" and presets > that say "3 OF US ARE ENOUGH TO COMPETE WITH AVICII" That's my point xD Then

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:35:19AM -0500, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > We ship with a lot of instruments for a few reasons, but one major one is that > we've historically made new plugins rather than making super plugins. I may be biased here but I really, really don't like this idea. Except maybe fo

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> They look small, ridiculous, not professional, toys... Also because presets are poor... You really have to stop and quite frankly piss off if that is your attitude. This is very hard work. Don't point at the Bugatti and call our little economy car small, ridiculous and not professional. We ta

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread DeRobyJ
Il 30/01/2015 16:54, Phil (list) ha scritto: > On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 15:42 +0100, DeRobyJ wrote: > >> Speaking of plugins... do we have subtractive synth? > Note the 'Sub' in ZynAddSubFX :-) > > Arg you right @amedeus I know that our synths are capable of incredible sounds, and I know that the m

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
The "too many instruments" argument is valid, but a broken record at this point. People use all of them and they aren't really hurting anything except perhaps learning due to complexity at the moment, but that is where the presets make the number of instruments a non-issue. We ship with a lot of

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Phil (list)
On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 15:42 +0100, DeRobyJ wrote: > > Speaking of plugins... do we have subtractive synth? Note the 'Sub' in ZynAddSubFX :-) -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, spon

Re: [LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
Vesa has talked about increasing the size of the instrument windows for 2.0 and I think this is a good idea, see: http://linux-multimedia-studio-lmms.996328.n3.nabble.com/Going-forward-LMMS-2-0-tp10709p10728.html Now, I speak having in mind what a developer working exclusively on an instrument and

[LMMS-devel] About native plugins

2015-01-30 Thread DeRobyJ
I recently got the feeling that LMMS offers too many little instrument plugins... Or better, that we already have a lot of them. Other Daws which do offer native plugins have a similar quantity of them, but they are much bigger and "easier" to use. (with "easier" I mean that they are ready to ma