Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-12-08 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
Maybe one could allow automation to change all linked knobs instead. Stian Jørgensrud wrote > I just found out LMMS supports MIDI automation after all, for volume, pan > and pitch at least. Now, in the file I got all the instrument's pan and > volume knobs were connected to one automation track.

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-12-07 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
I just found out LMMS supports MIDI automation after all, for volume, pan and pitch at least. Now, in the file I got all the instrument's pan and volume knobs were connected to one automation track. That is why I asked on this thread, cause I didn't remember if that were going to be prohibited, or

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-10-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 October 2014 09:01, Vesa wrote: > With per-track automations, it would be as easy as just connecting the > track and bam, all patterns connected. One more entry on the pros-list. >From a usability standpoint, this is a no-brainer IMO... +1 Could we have multiple independent automations p

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-10-04 Thread Vesa
Well, I just again ran into this bug where you open a project and some automation patterns get randomly disconnected from their models... This time, I had 5 automation tracks, each with more than 10 patterns, get disconnected, forcing me to connect each of those patterns again individually... And

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-24 Thread Vesa
On 09/25/2014 12:22 AM, Stian Jørgensrud wrote: > Yes, but I suddenly realized how little work there seems to be to implement > the tempo track. It is the same as the global automation of tempo, so > disabling the ability to connect automation tracks to the tempo, and then > show the global tempo a

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-24 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
Yes, but I suddenly realized how little work there seems to be to implement the tempo track. It is the same as the global automation of tempo, so disabling the ability to connect automation tracks to the tempo, and then show the global tempo automation in Song Editor, that's it.. I like your other

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-23 Thread Vesa
On 09/24/2014 12:00 AM, Stian Jørgensrud wrote: > About the tempo-track idea. Global automation of the tempo is the same, No. The entire point of tempo track is that there is one place and one place only where tempo can be automated. So that we can easily look up the tempo at any point in time.

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-23 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
About the tempo-track idea. Global automation of the tempo is the same, starts at bar 1 in the song, only that it does not show up in the Song Editor? -- View this message in context: http://linux-multimedia-studio-lmms.996328.n3.nabble.com/Let-s-rethink-automation-tracks-tp10416p10446.html Sen

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-23 Thread Vesa
On 09/23/2014 10:46 PM, HDDigitizerMusic wrote: > Just a thought, not sure if this is too hard or not but, this might be good > as a feature you can enable and disable in the settings area. Nope, not going to happen... -

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-23 Thread HDDigitizerMusic
I find the current automation tracks pretty useful to me. If you right click them, you can see what they're connected to under a drop down list. The only problem with that is it only says stuff like "Reverb>wet/dry" which would be nice to have clarification like "(Name of instrument)>Reverb>wet/dry

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-21 Thread Vesa
On 09/22/2014 04:26 AM, Bill Y. wrote: > The only counter point I could see is if some one wanted to implement > math interactions between automation tracks. AKA you create a "wave" > in one automation track and wanted it to add to or subtract from > another automation tracks "wave" to create a ble

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-21 Thread Bill Y.
The only counter point I could see is if some one wanted to implement math interactions between automation tracks. AKA you create a "wave" in one automation track and wanted it to add to or subtract from another automation tracks "wave" to create a blend of the two. Currently new automation overrid

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-21 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
So, the only thing you are saying is that it is easier and more logical this way, and I agree, it is. Go ahead and do it :) Cause consistency is the keyword here? I can't see how this will solve any bugs? diiz wrote > Ok, so here's again something I've been thinking about lately. And > which, aga

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-21 Thread musikbear
Tres Finocchiaro wrote > I don't think I've done that before. :) > tinfo/lmms-devel And if you do, you will be 'midly' confused one month down the road, so remember to make a note about it :p -- View this message in context: http://linux-multimedia-studio-lmms.996328.n3.nabble.com/Let-s-reth

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Sep 20, 2014 12:14 PM, "Vesa" wrote: > > On 09/20/2014 04:44 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > > > > Well, no, why would it? You'd just connect both pitches to one > > automation track, and use an automation there. > > > > Great. No objections then. > > > > And even if we were to remove the poss

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread Vesa
On 09/20/2014 04:44 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > > Well, no, why would it? You'd just connect both pitches to one > automation track, and use an automation there. > > Great. No objections then. > And even if we were to remove the possibility to connect an automation to multiple knobs, you coul

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> Well, no, why would it? You'd just connect both pitches to one automation track, and use an automation there. Great. No objections then. -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread Vesa
On 09/20/2014 03:20 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > I find instances where I want identical pitch bends on two tracks at > the same time. If your proposal prevents this from happening on a > single automation track, then I'd be against it. > Well, no, why would it? You'd just connect both pitches

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
I find instances where I want identical pitch bends on two tracks at the same time. If your proposal prevents this from happening on a single automation track, then I'd be against it. -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stu

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread DeRobyJ
When opining a project made with a version that use the old Automation tracks, every Automation block is put in its own Automation Track... Il 20/09/2014 13:57, musikbear ha scritto: > diiz wrote >> - backwards compat might be a bit tricky to implement (should be doable >> though) > ... tha

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread musikbear
diiz wrote > - backwards compat might be a bit tricky to implement (should be doable > though) ... that one tricky -me think (The able doing cant accomendate for all peeps different usages of aut-tracks -how should it? -You cant figure out whitch library of craziness they have utilized :) -But

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread DeRobyJ
I actually had different ideas about the future of automation tracks (The track is made and /then /you can attach it to different knobs) But this seems fine too, but for one thing: some kind of projects would have a lot of new tracks, and this would lead to confusion, even if you put the tracks

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread Vesa
On 09/20/2014 12:08 PM, bubblegummer wrote: > If the automation tracks are going to be collapsible, and then be > sub-grouped under the corresponding instrument- / bb-track, this will > be awesome! Collapsible tracks may be implemented some time in the future, but not immediately. As for sub-group

Re: [LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread bubblegummer
If the automation tracks are going to be collapsible, and then be sub-grouped under the corresponding instrument- / bb-track, this will be awesome! On 20. September 2014 10:29:47 MESZ, Vesa wrote: ]Ok, so here's again something I've been thinking about lately. And ]which, again, may or may not

[LMMS-devel] Let's rethink automation tracks

2014-09-20 Thread Vesa
Ok, so here's again something I've been thinking about lately. And which, again, may or may not lead to things eventually actually getting done... ;) See, there's currently a sort of inconsistency in the paradigms of the different tracks. Instrument-, bb- and sampletracks all work with a "per-trac