Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-22 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Whether it is the culprit or not, no other DAW has this visibility issue on that screen, so I felt it appropriate to mention, not unlike mastering a song and then playing on a car stereo, fine tuning often requires utilizing various qualities and common appliances. -Tres --

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-22 Thread Vesa
On 02/22/2014 07:17 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > @Vesa, > > Yes this helps. Let me show you: > > Lenovo Laptop: http://i.imgur.com/PUkyRBB.jpg > > LG Television: http://imgur.com/qt6zS8U > > See how the TV doesn't look right? If others don't have this problem, > the I can attribute it to my T

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-22 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
@Vesa, Yes this helps. Let me show you: Lenovo Laptop: http://i.imgur.com/PUkyRBB.jpg LG Television: http://imgur.com/qt6zS8U See how the TV doesn't look right? If others don't have this problem, the I can attribute it to my T (which I use for most of my music creation) -Tres - tres.fino

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-22 Thread Vesa
On 02/22/2014 02:45 AM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > Looks great. The 4 dark and 4 light bars I still believe are way too > close in color to eachother. Looking at them on a different display > now and they are virtually indistinguishable from eathother. Tres can you tell me if it looks better in t

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread nsk
21.02.2014 23:55, Vesa ?: I'm making the song editor look a bit more modern and fit better with the new style. Any criticism / complaints? Now's the time to say if there's anything that looks unclear or bad about this... if not, I'll send this with my next commits. Btw that bbtrack colo

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Looks great. The 4 dark and 4 light bars I still believe are way too close in color to eachother. Looking at them on a different display now and they are virtually indistinguishable from eathother. Some DAWs tackle this by drawing a thicker line every 4 bars. Again, something off topic, but is

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Vesa
On 02/22/2014 01:51 AM, Emilio Coppola wrote: > What about adding some border-radius to the elements on the song > editor? The sharp cornes don't fit so well the overall design. > I've thought about that, but I'm not sure if I want to do it, because that would require some quite substantial chang

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Emilio Coppola
What about adding some border-radius to the elements on the song editor? The sharp cornes don't fit so well the overall design. 2014-02-22 0:47 GMT+01:00 Israel : > I think it looks great! > It looks more like the Ardour interface that way. It also looks like > quite a few other big name proje

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Israel
I think it looks great! It looks more like the Ardour interface that way. It also looks like quite a few other big name projects as well. I think a lot of Audio techs like to have the darker background, for the same reason a lot of coders do... it is easier to stare at for hours on end. Just li

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Vesa
So, here's continuing my song editor update. I think this is looking quite nice and fits well with the overall style of the new LMMS. The background is dark, yes, but in fact so is the background on the piano roll, and the automation editor, and no one complains about those. I think most people ar

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Vesa
On 02/22/2014 01:02 AM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > IMO making piano roll minimum window size smaller is a very important > patch. Not sure how given the amount of toolbar, and slightly > off-topic, but this is needed soon IMO. > I attempted this, I found that it can't be made much smaller than w

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
IMO making piano roll minimum window size smaller is a very important patch. Not sure how given the amount of toolbar, and slightly off-topic, but this is needed soon IMO. On Feb 21, 2014 5:57 PM, "Vesa" wrote: > On 02/22/2014 12:45 AM, Israel wrote: > > Do the internal 'windows' theme to an ins

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Vesa
On 02/22/2014 12:45 AM, Israel wrote: > Do the internal 'windows' theme to an installed Qt/KDE theme, or are > they all internal? > I'd like to be able to customize this in the future. > The other thing about the windows, that I as a user want, is the ability > to move the buttons to the left. >

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Israel
Do the internal 'windows' theme to an installed Qt/KDE theme, or are they all internal? I'd like to be able to customize this in the future. The other thing about the windows, that I as a user want, is the ability to move the buttons to the left. I know not everyone likes it that way... but it mi

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
I didn't have any bad feelings with the old background, the B&B colour was however sometimes a bit strange. The new proposed background is way too dark after my opinion. It would of course work well in a dark theme :) -- View this message in context: http://linux-multimedia-studio-lmms.996328.n

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Vesa
On 02/22/2014 12:12 AM, I'm Umcaruje wrote: > its really too dark. Too dark for what? -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread I'm Umcaruje
I agree with Hannu too, its really too dark. Best regards, Uroš On 21 February 2014 23:06, Hannu Haahti wrote: > Looks too busy -- too much contrast especially between the background and > the lines which makes the clips not stand out enough. > > Maybe consider a more subtle gradient and light

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Hannu Haahti
Looks too busy -- too much contrast especially between the background and the lines which makes the clips not stand out enough. Maybe consider a more subtle gradient and lighter greys? Or a similar colour scheme as in the B&B editor? 2014-02-21 20:34 GMT+02:00 Vesa : > On 02/21/2014 08:20 PM,

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Tobias Doerffel
You can't see it, because it has been removed. It has been buggy and hardly useful with advanced features like controllers, automation etc. We also got rid of it in order to decrease code complexity, I'm sorry. If you still need it, feel free to revert 8b84526dc5759077c706dda999a761f722abf602 - it

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Bill Y.
Wait a second... has track freezing been removed, because I'm not seeing it when I right click? On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Bill Y. wrote: > Can we also see a frozen track. I noticed in the more recent color schemes > that they don't stand out as much as they use to. > > > On Fri, Feb 21,

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Vesa
On 02/21/2014 09:07 PM, Bill Y. wrote: > Can we also see a frozen track. I noticed in the more recent color > schemes that they don't stand out as much as they use to. No we can't, not for a while. We disabled that feature for the time being. --

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Bill Y.
Can we also see a frozen track. I noticed in the more recent color schemes that they don't stand out as much as they use to. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do you think the contrast (every 4 bar/meaure) is sufficient? > > It is very subtl

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Vesa
On 02/21/2014 08:20 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > Do you think the contrast (every 4 bar/meaure) is sufficient? > > It is very subtle on the screen I am using right now. Ok -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Appl

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Do you think the contrast (every 4 bar/meaure) is sufficient? It is very subtle on the screen I am using right now. - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Vesa wrote: > On 02/21/2014 06:57 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > My only request is a before and after for contr

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Vesa
On 02/21/2014 06:57 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > My only request is a before and after for contrast. I like it. > > - Before: After: -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the

Re: [LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
My only request is a before and after for contrast. I like it. -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Vesa wrote: > I'm making the song editor look a bit more modern and fit better with the > new style. > > Any criticism / complaints? Now's the time to say if t

[LMMS-devel] Song editor look

2014-02-21 Thread Vesa
I'm making the song editor look a bit more modern and fit better with the new style. Any criticism / complaints? Now's the time to say if there's anything that looks unclear or bad about this... if not, I'll send this with my next commits. Btw that bbtrack colour is the new default colour, but it