Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-28 Thread I'm Umcaruje
Hi, there have been 10 donations on bandcamp so far, so ~30$ was donated directly to LMMS paypal (The paypal from the sf site). Also there have been around 60-70 free downloads of the album. Best regards, Uroš On 28 April 2014 13:40, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Out of curiosity the money coming

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-28 Thread Lukas W.
Please use a separate thread for discussing hosting. 2014-04-28 15:06 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Aquilina : > For a VPS with the provider im with its about 210 euros a year or so that > includes the backup service they provide. > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < > tres.finocchi...

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
For a VPS with the provider im with its about 210 euros a year or so that includes the backup service they provide. On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: > >> Out of curiosity the mone

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-28 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Out of curiosity the money coming in off of band camp where is that > currently going? > It's going to the same donate button that is at the bottom of our current home page: Toby's Paypal. I doubt the album is generating that much money

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-28 Thread oeai
well, i thought on that once, i thought of collaboration on lmms base (was discussed once) so i thought that those files can be uploaded to git and that git repo could be a part of interface for open projects and same scheme could be used for instrument presets, but it should be sorted for few p

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Out of curiosity the money coming in off of band camp where is that currently going? On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2014 7:29 AM, "Jonathan Aquilina" > wrote: > > > > Ok then on my server it is. > > > > Temporarily, until we

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-28 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Apr 28, 2014 7:29 AM, "Jonathan Aquilina" wrote: > > Ok then on my server it is. > Temporarily, until we (if we) purchase hosting. -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Ok then on my server it is. On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > No, hosting the mmpz's at a location separate from the main site is not a > good design by any measure. > -- Jonathan Aquilina

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-28 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
No, hosting the mmpz's at a location separate from the main site is not a good design by any measure. -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ b

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-27 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I am actually currently hosting the current site. I think though for files such as audio and mmpz's I wonder if it would be better to put those on a directory on sourceforge? What do the others think on that? On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:41 PM, oeai wrote: > www.lmms.io is probably expensive > i

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-27 Thread oeai
www.lmms.io is probably expensive instead of 2 domains just get 1, but maybe it is better? maybe just upstream trend? is there need to pay for hosting? sometimes they provide with free name for limited zones. + maybe verified ssl.cert for some services if it happens - knowing wholesale price can

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-27 Thread Lukas W.
> What do we have to do with the British Indian Ocean? Nothing, but the domain is used a lot by geeks from all over the world as IO also is an abbreviation for input/output. 2014-04-27 13:22 GMT+02:00 Stian Jørgensrud : > What do we have to do with the British Indian Ocean? I like lmms-projec.org

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-27 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
What do we have to do with the British Indian Ocean? I like lmms-projec.org -- View this message in context: http://linux-multimedia-studio-lmms.996328.n3.nabble.com/Time-for-a-domain-tp8326p8395.html Sent from the lmms-devel mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-27 Thread oeai
yes. i'll put some more about .pro there's "pro tools" and "pro logic" and it's not cocky the minus is that lmms.pro can be unrecognizable as a domain name as .com or .org for example and to show it as a domain name maybe it will be better set www.lmms.pro not just lmms.pro, but lmms.pro itself

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-27 Thread Lukas W.
In the poll, 4 names quickly stood out: * lmms-project.org ~8€|| Vote: 13 votes * lmms.pro 16$|| Vote: 8 votes * lmms.io ~40€/y || Vote: 5 votes * Lmms.center 19€ || Vote: 4 votes I propose collecting arguments for and against each domain, and then voting a second time. I'll just st

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread oeai
i propose to make it as vote here you can set +1 , edit or share it https://pad.riseup.net/p/lmms.org maybe it will last for a week or just a sunday maybe the list of names can be hidden, so everybody could vote just for number or few letters with actual list being hidden (if lmms-devel list i

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread bubblegummer
What do you guys think of lmms.center ? It's available for 19€/y and it would fit perfectly to the plans for its content. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Jonathan Aquilina Gesendet: 26. April 2014 20:55:32 MESZ An: bubblegummer Betreff: Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
TV is for another country but people use it for television sites etc. On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > I do like "pidgin.im" name. I think that's a creative URL and I don't > think it makes it any harder to remember, but they chose this dur

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
I do like "pidgin.im" name. I think that's a creative URL and I don't think it makes it any harder to remember, but they chose this during a rename, something we never managed to do. (.IM was originally created for the Isle of Man but has since started being used by Yahoo and Trillian, same thing

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Lukas W.
Ok, that's your opinion, I don't share it but I understand you. Nevertheless, IIRC makefreemusic was not accepted that much, and I myself will not support it because of several reasons that have already been stated by me and by others. Also, as far as I can recall, when Toby asked "What's wrong wit

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Vesa
On 04/26/2014 08:01 PM, oeai wrote: > Well, for me > > .org is for organisations > .com for communities .com is for commercial entities, ie. businesses. -- Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build yo

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread oeai
Well, for me .org is for organisations .com for communities .net for networks .io for input-ouput or whatever basic stuff .pro for projects / professionals nobody knows about many .com and .net sites and it's not the matter of not using .org if it wasn't a matter of domainbullies i'd put this t

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > The domains you suggested all sound nice, but rather sound like community > sites, instead of official ones. I think we need something more serious. This is the major decision I'm referring to. If we just want a business card site, then fine, let's buy a "professional" domain and place our "

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Lukas W.
On Apr 26, Tres wrote: > He never said that. He actually liked it, but that's besides the point. On Feb 20, Toby wrote: > the suggested makefreemusic.org […] implies that you have to make free music > with LMMS (which is not true) The domains you suggested all sound nice, but rather sound like

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > makefreemusic.org was disliked by quite some people, especially by Toby, > and was dropped. He never said that. He actually liked it, but that's besides the point. Tobias Doerffel Jan 31 to > tres.finocchi...@gmail.com makefreemusic.org sounds good :-) I'd like to ask everyone to thin

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Lukas what about lmms.proj as was earlier suggested. On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Lukas W. wrote: > Hmm, lmms.io is growing on me. I think I'm starting to favor it over > lmms-project.org. It's short, .io is getting more and more popular and > is used a lot by software projects and a very e

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Lukas W.
Hmm, lmms.io is growing on me. I think I'm starting to favor it over lmms-project.org. It's short, .io is getting more and more popular and is used a lot by software projects and a very easy to remember. It's a bit geeky though, but ey, aren't we as well? Oh, and it is around 5x the price (>40€/y),

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Vesa
On 04/26/2014 11:32 AM, Lukas W. wrote: > I think .pro is far too uncommon, and thus too difficult to remember. > .io has this problem as well, but it's not that bad as with .pro. Heh, the age of easily-remembered, standard set of tld's is just about over... just wait until we start getting corpor

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Agreed I really like the .org one that you mentioned. When and if we setup a proper foundation, it will have a professional name and people will know its a formal organization On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Lukas W. wrote: > Of course we can always do this, but we have to decide on a single

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Lukas W.
Of course we can always do this, but we have to decide on a single official main domain. 2014-04-26 10:34 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Aquilina : > Lukas we can do a redirect to the .org address with either of those. > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Lukas W. wrote: >> >> I think .pro is far too unco

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Lukas we can do a redirect to the .org address with either of those. On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Lukas W. wrote: > I think .pro is far too uncommon, and thus too difficult to remember. > .io has this problem as well, but it's not that bad as with .pro. > > 2014-04-26 9:47 GMT+02:00 oeai :

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Lukas W.
I think .pro is far too uncommon, and thus too difficult to remember. .io has this problem as well, but it's not that bad as with .pro. 2014-04-26 9:47 GMT+02:00 oeai : > maybe lmms.pro ? > > On 26.04.2014 11:24, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: >> +1 for lmms-project.org and hav

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread oeai
maybe lmms.pro ? On 26.04.2014 11:24, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > +1 for lmms-project.org and having a .org > domain is good if eventually we want to setup a foundation or something. > > @lukas thanks for willing to sponsor the domain. I guess my other > thread can be igno

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
oops im going to forward the below to them. What do you all think about lmms.pro On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:59 AM, oeai wrote: > my message didn't get on devel-list yet > > On 26.04.2014 11:57, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > >> Nice. I would get that as the 2nd domain instead of lmms.io < >> http:/

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
i would still recommend the .org address and if you want with lmms.io a redirect can be setup to the .org domain On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Lukas W. wrote: > @Jonathan > Let's talk about hosting somewhere else, this should be only about the > domain ;-) > > I, just like Vesa, understood t

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Lukas W.
@Jonathan Let's talk about hosting somewhere else, this should be only about the domain ;-) I, just like Vesa, understood that makefreemusic.org was disliked by quite some people, especially by Toby, and was dropped. The domain really should contain the word LMMS, and I guess we're sticking with t

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
+1 for lmms-project.org and having a .org domain is good if eventually we want to setup a foundation or something. @lukas thanks for willing to sponsor the domain. I guess my other thread can be ignored in regards to me having someone else willing to sponsor it. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:15 PM,

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
With the CMS I have chose it will be very easy to make a really amazing site and even have an easy way to manage lsp all from a single location. On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think the domain name needs to at least contain LMMS >> > >

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-25 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I have a friend who would gladly sponsor the domain for us I just need to reconfirm with him. After the domain is confirmed I can setup the new CMS we will be using for various things. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > Hi, > > 2014-04-25 23:15 GMT+02:00 Lukas W. : > > A

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-25 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
As mentioned previously with this I am more then willing to host the site as well as LSP but any files would need to be uploaded to SF or elsewhere. On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 6:03 AM, Vesa wrote: > On 04/26/2014 05:28 AM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > > > I think you are jumping to conclusions. Pl

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-25 Thread Vesa
On 04/26/2014 05:28 AM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > I think you are jumping to conclusions. Please stick to opinion here, > it works better for the topic at hand. Well no, I'm just stating what was already discussed and generally concluded previously, as I recall. > Do we make a site that focus

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-25 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > I think the domain name needs to at least contain LMMS > You are entitled to your opinion. We already discussed this before... too confusing I think you are jumping to conclusions. Please stick to opinion here, it works better for the topic at hand. This discussion is tough just like the

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-25 Thread Vesa
On 04/26/2014 04:49 AM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > I like the domain makefreemusic.org . We already discussed this before... too confusing, the word "free" isn't immediately understood out of context due to the dual meaning in english language. > I think the software i

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-25 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
I don't like the name personally. Whatever is decided about this, I would like to be a co-maintainer. I don't personally like hyphenated-noun domains. I like the domain makefreemusic.org. I think the software is just one of several tools that LSP is useful for. Shit, sharingplatform.org is ava

Re: [LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-25 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi, 2014-04-25 23:15 GMT+02:00 Lukas W. : > Also note that "lmms.io" is available, but costs ~40€/y. If we take > that, I may need someone to help me pay it. (Btw, @Toby: are there any > considerable donations coming in?) Just a few Euros per month but that shouldn't be the problem. I vote for lm

[LMMS-devel] Time for a domain!

2014-04-25 Thread Lukas W.
Hi everyone, There has already been a discussion about buying a top level domain, but it has somehow died. However, this is still important, a domain that represents us would be great! I am willing to sponsor this domain. But first, we have to come to a decision on what domain to take. Unfortunat