[POLL] Moving UGLI outside Apache?

2005-04-06 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Greetings to all, As a result of discussions held on this list and on commons-dev, I think starting a new project based on or similar to UGLI outside Apache Logging Services would benefit the wider OS community. For one, many open source projects based on GPL or LGPL licenses refuse to adopt log4j

Re: [POLL] Moving UGLI outside Apache?

2005-04-06 Thread Ceki Gülcü
By the way, suggestions for the project names are also welcome. At 02:33 PM 4/6/2005, you wrote: Greetings to all, As a result of discussions held on this list and on commons-dev, I think starting a new project based on or similar to UGLI outside Apache Logging Services would benefit the wider OS

Re: [POLL] Moving UGLI outside Apache?

2005-04-06 Thread Jacob Kjome
Will this allow us to continue to include UGLI in Log4j.jar or will it be required to be a separate jar? Also, what are our plans for UGLI? I haven't followed the commons-dev list. Is there any new information being provided there as to JCL's plans? Is UGLI part of it? If we continue with

Re: [POLL] Moving UGLI outside Apache?

2005-04-06 Thread Simon Kitching
Hi All, The set of people actually interested in working on JCL seems to have dwindled back to two again (at least for the moment): Robert Donkin and myself. And I´m still on holiday until this time next week; I´m following the email discussions but can´t do any active work on things now.

Re: [POLL] Moving UGLI outside Apache?

2005-04-06 Thread Ceki Gülcü
log4j.jar would almost certainly include the code of the new project in the same way it includes UGLI. As such, I'd also expect the new project to replace UGLI. As for JCL, there are very encouraging signs that commons-dev participants are becoming more and more aware of the problems associated

RE: [POLL] Moving UGLI outside Apache?

2005-04-06 Thread Mark Womack
options. I'm sorry I have not been able to keep up with the latest JCL discussions, so I am commenting in that vacuum. -Mark -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:34 AM To: log4j-dev@logging.apache.org Subject: [POLL] Moving UGLI

Re: [POLL] Moving UGLI outside Apache?

2005-04-06 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Simon, Thank you for your informative input which is highly appreciated. I agree with what you wrote so won't add anything except extend a firm invitation for your participation in the new project when it comes to being. At 06:36 PM 4/6/2005, Simon Kitching wrote: Hi All, The set of people

Re: [POLL] Moving UGLI outside Apache?

2005-04-06 Thread Curt Arnold
I haven't gotten deep into UGLI, however as far as I know there was not an UGLI adapter for log4j 1.2, but required log4j 1.3. Since I expect that it will take some time for log4j 1.3 to displace 1.2, any UGLI or JCL like project in the interim should be able to support the deployed versions