Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-05-01 Thread Matt Sicker
Glad to hear it. With the duplicate OSGi modules gone, now it doesn't seem so bad to add more modularity. On 30 April 2014 20:37, Ralph Goers wrote: > That makes a lot of sense to me > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 30, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Bruce Brouwer > wrote: > > Can we agree to pull out jp

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-30 Thread Ralph Goers
That makes a lot of sense to me Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Bruce Brouwer wrote: > > Can we agree to pull out jpa and jms? > > As for web, I know there was some discussion on how we could not register a > shutdown hook. If we broke out log4j-web, maybe we could make it

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-30 Thread Bruce Brouwer
Can we agree to pull out jpa and jms? As for web, I know there was some discussion on how we could not register a shutdown hook. If we broke out log4j-web, maybe we could make it as simple as registering a shutdown hook if log4j-web is not included, but if log4j-web was included, the shutdown hook

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-29 Thread Matt Sicker
I mean I split off log4j-streams and put it in a branch. It being the streams module. The web stuff actually makes sense to keep in core. JPA and JMS should probably be in their own modules. The syslog stuff could be at least in its own packages but still in log4j-core. I'm unsure about the JSON/Y

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-29 Thread Ralph Goers
What do you mean “you took care of it?” jpa, jms, web as well as the json and yaml support are still in core. I don’t know that we have agreed to move them out yet. Ralph On Apr 29, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > I took care of it and added it to the experimental branch in svn (along

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-29 Thread Matt Sicker
I took care of it and added it to the experimental branch in svn (along with a log4j-camel module I was working on). On 29 April 2014 18:18, Bruce Brouwer wrote: > Was there any support in creating any of these new modules? > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Bruce Brouwer wrote: > >> I'll p

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-29 Thread Bruce Brouwer
Was there any support in creating any of these new modules? On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Bruce Brouwer wrote: > I'll put together a list of things that I think could be pulled out of > log4j-core because they are integrations with other tools. Go ahead and > throw darts, that's what my list

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-18 Thread Bruce Brouwer
I'll put together a list of things that I think could be pulled out of log4j-core because they are integrations with other tools. Go ahead and throw darts, that's what my list is for. * log4j-jms * log4j-mail * log4j-web * log4j-jpa * log4j-mongodb * log4j-couchdb Some more questionable ones to p

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-18 Thread Gary Gregory
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: > I agree with all that as well. Part of the "no more modules" problem comes > from all the unnecessary OSGi modules. I'll be deleting those soon as I'm > porting over the OSGi metadata to the appropriate modules so that extra > parallel module

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-18 Thread Matt Sicker
I agree with all that as well. Part of the "no more modules" problem comes from all the unnecessary OSGi modules. I'll be deleting those soon as I'm porting over the OSGi metadata to the appropriate modules so that extra parallel modules are unneeded. On 17 April 2014 23:48, Ralph Goers wrote:

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-17 Thread Ralph Goers
I agree with you completely. In fact, the items you have specifically identified are where I would start. Are there more? Ralph On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Bruce Brouwer wrote: > This discussion about having modules or not having modules keeps coming up > and I see different opinions here

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-17 Thread Bruce Brouwer
This discussion about having modules or not having modules keeps coming up and I see different opinions here on the log4j team. Generally, the argument of "please, no more modules" has won. I wanted to present my perspective to see if I can sway anyone's opinion. There are plenty of reasons why pr

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-17 Thread Matt Sicker
Done. Deleted the two modules after branching to branches/experimental. On 17 April 2014 12:33, Matt Sicker wrote: > Thanks, Ralph. I'll move the experimental code to a feature branch. > > > On 17 April 2014 12:27, Paul Benedict wrote: > >> If you want to retroactively create a branch, and you

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-17 Thread Matt Sicker
Thanks, Ralph. I'll move the experimental code to a feature branch. On 17 April 2014 12:27, Paul Benedict wrote: > If you want to retroactively create a branch, and you're doing Eclipse, > simply show the project's SVN history; then select create a branch at the > revision you want to split fro

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-17 Thread Paul Benedict
If you want to retroactively create a branch, and you're doing Eclipse, simply show the project's SVN history; then select create a branch at the revision you want to split from. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > Google “svn move”. > > Ralph > > > On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:33 AM

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-17 Thread Ralph Goers
Google “svn move”. Ralph On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: > I know how to create one, but not retroactively. > > > On 17 April 2014 10:11, Ralph Goers wrote: > Matt, > > Creating a branch in subversion is trivial. A quick google would give you the > answer to that. > >

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-17 Thread Matt Sicker
I know how to create one, but not retroactively. On 17 April 2014 10:11, Ralph Goers wrote: > Matt, > > Creating a branch in subversion is trivial. A quick google would give you > the answer to that. > > Everyone - Do we already have a sandbox? > > Ralph > > On Apr 17, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Matt Si

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-17 Thread Ralph Goers
Matt, Creating a branch in subversion is trivial. A quick google would give you the answer to that. Everyone - Do we already have a sandbox? Ralph On Apr 17, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: > I'm not very good at subversion. I just put it in the trunk. If someone could > move it to a

Re: New log4j-streams Module

2014-04-17 Thread Matt Sicker
I'm not very good at subversion. I just put it in the trunk. If someone could move it to a branch, that would be great. Same goes for the experimental log4j-camel module I started yesterday. On 17 April 2014 06:49, Gary Gregory wrote: > Now I am confused. I thought we decided to keep this in a