Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: There are a number of people looking for resolution on the code signing cert question (Eclipse plugins, maven artifacts, etc).  I'll file a Jira issue. Our case is relatively straightforward - hopefully infra can automate

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-04 Thread Scott Deboy
Since we never had offiical release of receivers or component, is it ok to nuke them from subversion now? Christian, do you mind doing site-related stuff? I'll update wording on the Chainsaw page and update the screenshots...and I think we could be ready soon to vote on a release.. Not sure

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: Since we never had offiical release of receivers or component, is it ok to nuke them from subversion now? Probably we should make a new mail thread with [ANN] in the subject to make sure everybody reads, give 72h and then

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-04 Thread Scott Deboy
OK, I'll send out an announcement email and delete after 72 hours if there are no objections. Thanks for the help on the web site. Regarding Web Start, the old old old version of Chainsaw is currently available via Web Start, signed by Paul Smith a long time ago..available from the 'download

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
http://logging.apache.org/chainsaw/download.html - by clicking on the 'Java Web Start' link, Chainsaw will download, install and run.. To update the version of Chainsaw we provide via Web Start, we need to sign the jars, since Chainsaw writes to the local file system, can initiate socket

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-04 Thread Scott Deboy
We need a code signing certificate that is trusted by a root cert auth, and use that cert to sign the jars - I would prefer the ASF handle this. See http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/javaws/developersguide/faq.html Scott On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Christian

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
OK understood. Not sure were do ask, but maybe infra has an idea if such a thing exists. If not, we might ask the board if we can buy something like that On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: We need a code signing certificate that is trusted by a root cert

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-04 Thread Scott Deboy
There are a number of people looking for resolution on the code signing cert question (Eclipse plugins, maven artifacts, etc). I'll file a Jira issue. Our case is relatively straightforward - hopefully infra can automate it so we can send them binaries/drop binaries into a folder, along with a

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-03 Thread Scott Deboy
OK, I pulled receivers and component companion sources into Chainsaw in svn 1178304. Is deleting the entire component and receivers companions hierarchy from svn sufficient or do I need to do something else? There is also the question of 'companions' only being one now (extras) - not sure what

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I pulled receivers and component companion sources into Chainsaw in svn 1178304.  Is deleting the entire component and receivers companions hierarchy from svn sufficient or do I need to do something else? we need to

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-10-03 Thread Scott Deboy
Thanks Christian, Extras are useful and should be kept around as is, unless we choose to pull them back in to core... I agree, replacing companions with just extras seems to be a good choice. Scott On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 3,

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Scott Deboy
ok, I'll nuke component and receivers and pull the useful bits in to chainsaw...does that mean we should remove the parent maven project then? Scott On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Curt Arnold carn...@apache.org wrote: Forget the packaging renaming bit. No need to make Chainsaw an OSGi package

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: ok, I'll nuke component and receivers and pull the useful bits in to chainsaw...does that mean we should remove the parent maven project then? If you speak of the parent for Companions: yes. I think we can remove the

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Scott Deboy
ok, moving ahead with removal then On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: ok, I'll nuke component and receivers and pull the useful bits in to chainsaw...does that mean we

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: ok, moving ahead with removal then Thanks, and have fun - removing old stuff makes me always feel good, hope it is the same feeling for you :-) On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Scott Deboy
Definitely! Anything to simplify things and get this out the door! Thanks for all your help Christian, Scott On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: ok, moving ahead with

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Scott Deboy
I need to use some of the classes that were copied to core from receivers in 1165491 (rewriteappender, utillogginglevel)... Will there be a log4j release soon or should I duplicate these classes in Chainsaw? I don't want a log4j release to hold up a Chainsaw release. Scott On Fri, Sep 30, 2011

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: I need to use some of the classes that were copied to core from receivers in 1165491 (rewriteappender, utillogginglevel)... Will there be a log4j release soon or should I duplicate these classes in Chainsaw?  I don't

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Scott Deboy
I'm leaning toward keeping them in the same package location - when log4j is released, I can remove the classes from Chainsaw and everything will still work. Scott On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Scott Deboy

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: I'm leaning toward keeping them in the same package location - when log4j is released, I can remove the classes from Chainsaw and everything will still work. But you need to make a new release of chainsaw together with

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Scott Deboy
I would need to make a new release of Chainsaw after the log4j release at some point, assuming I needed other things from the updated version of log4j, but right now Chainsaw depends on 1.2.16 and bundles it in the standalone and DMG builds...so I think I'm ok.. (?) Scott On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: I would need to make a new release of Chainsaw after the log4j release at some point, assuming I needed other things from the updated version of log4j, but right now Chainsaw depends on 1.2.16 and bundles it in the

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-02 Thread Curt Arnold
Forget the packaging renaming bit. No need to make Chainsaw an OSGi package and no need to add additional work. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Scott, Curt had an interesting idea lately, he mentioned it might make sense to move the companions code into chainsaw. What do you think on that? I like the idea - less releases, and no other interested parties in having companions. Please comment, when you can :-) Cheers Christian

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-01 Thread Ralph Goers
At this point I'm only focusing only on 2.0. I've been wondering if I should create a subproject for chainsaw or if it should remain separate. I already moved a large part of extras in as a core part of the functionality. Ralph On Sep 1, 2011, at 4:13 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Scott,

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote: I think pulling in component would make sense...no one else probably uses it.  Receivers?  I suppose if they were built as a separate jar that'd be fine too, I have no idea who uses them if anyone. We can always cut them

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: At this point I'm only focusing only on 2.0. I've been wondering if I should create a subproject for chainsaw or if it should remain separate. I already moved a large part of extras in as a core part of the

Re: Companions - Chainsaw?

2011-09-01 Thread Curt Arnold
On Sep 1, 2011, at 6:13 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Scott, Curt had an interesting idea lately, he mentioned it might make sense to move the companions code into chainsaw. What do you think on that? I like the idea - less releases, and no other interested parties in having