RE: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

+1 From: Dominik Psenner [mailto:dpsen...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 1:45 AM To: Log4J Developers List ; Logging PMC ; Logging General ; Log4Net Developers List ; log4php-...@logging.apache.org; log4cxx-...@logging.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev

Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

The votes are way too scattered over the different mailing lists so that I didn't even find my own vote. ;-) Therefore I'm trying to summarize the current state of the vote: log4j-dev@, log4php-dev@, log4net-dev@, log4cxx-dev@ ->d...@logging.apache.org Matt Sicker: +1 Ralph Goers: +1 Stefan Bo

Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

Guten Tag Apache, am Mittwoch, 8. März 2017 um 13:38 schrieben Sie: > The reason for doing this is a result of the last board meeting. > The PMC had to discuss something on the private mailing list simply > because PMC members don't subscribe to every list, nor do they want > to, so it was not pos

Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

Based on the voting so far, it looks like merging user lists isn't desired. I'm cool with that, so I'll -1 the user list merge as well. I'm still +1 for merging developer lists unless someone has a better idea. We shouldn't have to rely on the private list for public discussions. On 8 March 2017 a

Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

The reason for doing this is a result of the last board meeting. The PMC had to discuss something on the private mailing list simply because PMC members don't subscribe to every list, nor do they want to, so it was not possible to have the discussion on the correct mailing list. Ralph > On Mar

Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

On 2017-03-08, Matt Sicker wrote: > I may be missing some mailing lists considering I just subscribed to half > of them less than five minutes ago. > This is a vote to merge the various Apache Logging Services mailing lists. > The proposal is to combine them as follows: > log4j-dev@, log4php-dev

Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

No wait, the lazy voting thing at Commons is just the same form we use for code, just with an email plus a 72 hour notice. Makes sense for repository changes since those are a pain to reverse once the format is changed to git. On 7 March 2017 at 23:07, Matt Sicker wrote: > The -1 thing is mentio

Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

The -1 thing is mentioned here regarding a -1 being a veto for anything consensus-related (generally anything to do with adding or removing committers/PMCs). I suppose in that context, a mailing list change probably falls under lazy majority, though what

Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

+1 Note that generally a -1 is a veto only on code commits. On everything else it just means you are against the proposal. However, we generally strive for consensus so great weight is given to binding votes that are opposed. Ralph > On Mar 7, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > This is

Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

This is my +1. If this is the incorrect voting format and we need to do a 2/3 majority instead, please veto this and let me know. This situation is not spelled out in the bylaws. On 7 March 2017 at 22:20, Matt Sicker wrote: > I may be missing some mailing lists considering I just subscribed to