Re: Speaking Japanese (Re: Access Control Lists and Functions)
Dave Cross wrote: The language spoken by the droogs in 'A Clockwork Orange'. Isn't it a pidgin mix of Russian and English?
Re: PIMB T-shirts
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:32:47PM +, Marcel Grunauer wrote: How about "Smoking Perl" for Amsterdam? "YAPC::Europe::Amsterdam - A Week-Long Hashref" Alex
Re: PIMB T-shirts
"David H. Adler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 11:37:57AM +, Simon Wistow wrote: David Hodgkinson wrote: Can I reserve 2 to go to the States? I guess I should enquire about sizes... Sure, no problem. Shall I enquire at NY.pm tomorrow about demand? Forget mine. They guy cried off when he found out they were for real. Pussy. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire -
Speaking Welsh (Re: Speaking Japanese (Re: Access Control Lists and Functions))
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 11:47:44AM +, Redvers Davies wrote: And possibly some welsh... The welsh word "drwg" (pronounced the english way is "droog") and means 'Bad, naughty, evil, wicked' etc. Anthony Burgess spoke fluent Welsh (his first wife was Welsh), so I'd have thought that was quite likely. .robin. -- Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:47:52AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Yes. I converted a little script I have that puts some stuff into a database to use LRP. [snip interesting discussion] Can we see the result? I'm fascinated... .robin. -- "You are bound to be in a state of mental unrest, even turmoil. And of course there can be no inner peace: be proud of it!"
Partitioning schemes (was RE: Mailman....)
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 10:42:34AM +, Steve Mynott wrote: "David H. Adler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, you're much too kind. My redhat box is disintigrating before my very eyes. root partition filled up for no reason and, thus I looked at the partition table: / /boot /home With home being the largest. What *were* they thinking when they configured this? I don't think you can really blame the distribution (which allows you to partition the disk how you want) for someone partitioning the disk wrongly. Except that the box came to me like this. I intend to rectify this in a bit by scaping red hat off with a large trowel and installing something useful, but I'm still trying to figure out why *anyone* would partition it this way... :-/ Because they were used to the BSD way of things where most stuff goes in /usr and were expecting Linux to put it all in /home. As an example, our BSD box is configured like so; Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 49583354411017678%/ /dev/ad0s1f 13350937 3817961 846490231%/usr /dev/ad0s1e 19815 61701206034%/var procfs 440 100%/proc So that might be one answer. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.binky.ourshack.org
Re: PIMB T-shirts
* Marcel Grunauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll writes: Apparently Amsterdam.pm are looking for a design for YAPC::Europe 2001 ;-) however, having said that, still like the # , ! , perl one ;-) that ought to be |\/| | \__/ | |______| \ / | | | | | hash bang perl | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |/\| i know, i was protecting simon's trademarks, besides this is just the sort of thing that gives perl a bad name (i'll have an XXL simon) I'd like to set up a standing order for 2 of the largest size you can do of each new design as they are produced. In actual fact thinking about it, best make that 4 of. Cheques at monthly intervals okay? Neil. -- Neil C. Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.binky.ourshack.org
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
Robin Houston wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:47:52AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Yes. I converted a little script I have that puts some stuff into a database to use LRP. Can we see the result? I'm fascinated... Well, you asked for it. Here it is, cleaned up just a little bit (mostly line length reformatting -- hopefully Outlook doesn't break it that way) and with username and password XXX'd out. Enjoy! (I note while looking at it that it isn't a rewrite of the other script as I had imagined it to be -- it only selects instead of inserting. But the DBI code is roughly the same.) (I had to "use DBI" ahead of LRP because "ute DBI" failed due to the -I ending; and the "doneq" at the end is the English word "done" with a random letter to mask the -e ending.) Cheers, Philip #!/vmp/app/ActivePerl-5.6/bin/perl -w use DBI; use Lingua::Romana::Perligata; ute mysql intra DBD. Looking tum up inquementum tum biguttam tum novumversum oraculo scribe. meo blanko lacunam da. praecide blanko. wordere sic coniungementum blankum tum applicamentum sic indementum hoc cis haec cis meo dsno da wordementum LXVIII tum LXVI tum LXXIII tum LVIII tum CIX tum CXXI tum CXV tum CXIII tum CVIII tum LVIII tum C tum XCVII tum CXVI tum XCVII tum XCVIII tum XCVII tum CXV tum CI tum LXI tum CX tum CI tum CXIX tum CXVI tum CXI tum CX tum LIX tum CIV tum CXI tum CXV tum CXVI tum LXI tum CII tum CV tum XCIX tum CXVII tum CXV tum XLVI tum CII tum CXIV tum CXI tum CIII tum CXV tum CXII tum XCVII tum XCIX tum CI tum XLVI tum CX tum CI tum CXVI. meo usernameo da wordementum XXX tum XXX tum XXX. meo passwordo da wordementum XXX tum XXX tum XXX. meo attributibus. RaiseError inquemento attributuum da unum. AutoCommit inquemento attributuum da unum. meo classo da wordementum LXVIII tum LXVI tum LXXIII. meo dbho da classum tum dsnum tum usernameum tum passwordum tum ad attributibus connectementum intra DBI morive errstrum intra DBI. oraculo scribe Selecting inquementum tum novumversum. meo selecto da wordementum LXXXIII tum LXIX tum LXXVI tum LXIX tum LXVII tum LXXXIV tum XXXII tum CV tum C tum XLIV tum XXXII tum C tum XCVII tum CXVI tum CXVII tum CIX tum XLIV tum XXXII tum XCVII tum CX tum CXXII tum XCVII tum CIV tum CVIII tum XLIV tum XXXII tum CI tum CXV tum CXV tum CI tum CXIV tum XXXII tum LXX tum LXXXII tum LXXIX tum LXXVII tum XXXII tum CI tum CXV tum CXV tum CI tum CX tum XXXII tum LXXXVII tum LXXII tum LXIX tum LXXXII tum LXIX tum XXXII tum C tum XCVII tum CXVI tum CXVII tum CIX tum XXXII tum LXI tum XXXII tum LXIII. meo todayo da wordementum L tum XLVIII tum XLVIII tum XLVIII tum XLV tum XLIX tum L tum XLV tum XLVIII tum LVI. meo stho da selectum prepareementum apud dbhum. todayum executee apud sthum. meo rowo da fetchementum apud sthum. nisi non confirmamentum rowum fac sic oraculo scribe nullimum rowum arcessementorum tum biguttam tum lacunam tum tertium rowum arcessementorum tum novumversum. cis finishe apud sthum. disconnecte apud dbhum. oraculo scribe doneq inquementum tum novumversum.
Re: PIMB T-shirts
It's been done. But go for it.
http://www.uiowa.edu/~commstud/adclass/camel/images/motorcycle.jpg
(http://www.uiowa.edu/~commstud/adclass/camel/JoeCool.html)
S.
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Alex Page wrote:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:59:44PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
There is a temptation to insert a joint into the mouth of the "Republic of
Perl" camel. Of course this would never happen[1].
[1] Something tells me that would have to be a trademark thing that O'Reilly
would protect.
IANAL, but AFAIK parody is protected under trademark law, as long as you're not
making profit (I presume beer money for the hassle of T-shirt making is excusable).
Alex
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Shevek
I am the Borg.
sub AUTOLOAD { ($s=$AUTOLOAD)=~s/.*:://; eval qq{ *$AUTOLOAD=$s
?sub {$s*{$s-1}} :sub {1}; }; goto $AUTOLOAD; } print {'4'};
trade mark parody (Re: PIMB T-shirts)
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:09:55AM -0500, Alex Page wrote: IANAL, but AFAIK parody is protected under trademark law, as long as you're not making profit (I presume beer money for the hassle of T-shirt making is excusable). IANAL either, but I think it's quite complicated. "More interestingly the Court held that in trade mark law, there is no "parody" defence to an infringement action." (from http://www.bristows.com/news/news_items/elvis.html) Other cases seem to contradict that view though. Also relevant is http://www.murdoch.edu.au/elaw/issues/v5n1/blake51.html#infringet paragraph 48: "derogotary use", involving the "suggestion of an unwholesome, or unsavoury association" seems to qualify as infringement in the US. Don't we have someone here who *is* a lawyer? :-) .robin.
Re: Partitioning schemes (was RE: Mailman....)
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:01:24PM +, Neil Ford wrote: On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 10:42:34AM +, Steve Mynott wrote: I don't think you can really blame the distribution (which allows you to partition the disk how you want) for someone partitioning the disk wrongly. Except that the box came to me like this. I intend to rectify this in a bit by scaping red hat off with a large trowel and installing something useful, but I'm still trying to figure out why *anyone* would partition it this way... :-/ Because they were used to the BSD way of things where most stuff goes in /usr and were expecting Linux to put it all in /home. One would expect VA Linux to be more used to linux than bsd. YMMV. :-) dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "I have no idea what that is. Thank goodness we didn't order three!" - some nameless induhvidual quoted in Dilbert Newsletter 31.0
Re: PIMB T-shirts
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, you wrote: however, having said that, still like the # , ! , perl one ;-) that ought to be |\/| | \__/ | |______| \ / | | | | | hash bang perl | | | careful now fellas .. that is a bit risque' .. cant you stick with something less contraversial .. like semi naked hooters girls or summink?? :)) wouldn't want to upset our corporate overlords now would we ... (err thats a joke by the way before anybody says anything ..) -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention
From: "Nathan Torkington" [EMAIL PROTECTED] We're planning a London Open Source Convention. The dates we're looking hard at now are August 20-23. Are there any obvious clashes that you can think of? You mean apart from the traditional British summer hols[1]? August is, in some quarters at least, considered a non-month for the purposes of all sorts of events - possibly even for an Open Source Convention :-) Having said that, most London PM types aren't constrained by the likes of school-age children, so will probably take holidays at better value times of year... In case it's of interest, Monday, August, 27th, 2001 is the summer bank holiday (i.e. a public holiday) this year, at least according to http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/bankhol.htm HTH, Andrew. [1] What with us having such long vacations over here and all.
Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention
Andrew Bowman writes: You mean apart from the traditional British summer hols[1]? August is, in some quarters at least, considered a non-month for the purposes of all sorts of events - possibly even for an Open Source Convention :-) Bugger, we were afraid of that. It's more than just Perl, it's for a lot of Open Source (Python, Linux, MySQL, PHP, etc.) What we really need to know is: will our attendance from Europe suffer because it's in August? Thanks, Nat
Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:54:50PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: We're planning a London Open Source Convention. The dates we're looking hard at now are August 20-23. Are there any obvious clashes that you can think of? Linuxbierwanderung 2001. To be held in Belgium but with a large UK contingent. Date to be confirmed within the next couple of weeks, but will almost certainly be a week somewhere between 19 Aug and 8 Sept. It would be *really* great - especially for intercontinental visitors - if your con could be immediately before or after the LBW. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention
David Cantrell writes: Linuxbierwanderung 2001. To be held in Belgium but with a large UK contingent. Date to be confirmed within the next couple of weeks, but will almost certainly be a week somewhere between 19 Aug and 8 Sept. It would be *really* great - especially for intercontinental visitors - if your con could be immediately before or after the LBW. The Amsterdam YAPC folks have a bunch of venues they're looking at, but only some have given them specific dates they're free. The only dates they've been told about are for the week before the London OScon. I hope the L16G 2001 doesn't clash with either. As I said, though, we're REALLY worried about Europeans being on vacation and unable to attend. We don't know much about the mysterious habits of this strange and noble race, and would appreciate your guesses as to their actions: will our attendance be buggered[1] because those on the Continong will be sunning their lily-white bottoms in the south of France instead of getting lilier-white by hanging out with other open source geeks?[2] Nat [1] not O'Reilly Official Wording[tm], of course [2] there's an open sores joke to be made there, but I won't do it
Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention
From: "Nathan Torkington" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugger, we were afraid of that. It's more than just Perl, it's for a lot of Open Source (Python, Linux, MySQL, PHP, etc.) What we really need to know is: will our attendance from Europe suffer because it's in August? I imagine it will to some extent - but probably not too much. See what other folk here think and ask around on some of the European (i.e. continental) lists to see what they think. I know the Germans are quite keen on heading en masse to southern Europe[1] in the summer. Andrew. [1] An improvement on their previous European excursions :-)
Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, you wrote: Bugger, we were afraid of that. It's more than just Perl, it's for a lot of Open Source (Python, Linux, MySQL, PHP, etc.) What we really need to know is: will our attendance from Europe suffer because it's in August? I suspect most UK based families would rather not be in London in August ... other EU countries may still be in holiday mode and London will be a nice break for them and their families. Since the majority of UK programmers work in London they are less than likely to want to attend a conference there in peak holiday season IMHO .. Orlando would be a nice alternative tho' .. :) -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
