Stupid Email

2001-01-24 Thread Andy Wardley
On Jan 23, 11:53pm, Roger Horne wrote: A single email was sent by the powers that be[1] [...] Similar thing happened when I worked at ICL many moons ago. Some executive sent an email to the 'icl' alias, which for some mind-bogglingly stupid reason was a valid alias expanding to everyone who

XP, testing and perl

2001-01-24 Thread Greg Cope
Dear All All the posts about XP and a Slashdot article about it got me thinking and I have a generic question for the virtual floor. Does Anyone know of any good perl test tutorials - i.e how to make various test suites for a perl modules "make test" target ? I've seen the Test::Harness stuff

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Robert Shiels
- Original Message - From: "Mark Fowler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2001 11:19 Subject: Re: odd -w effect Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions? I've also had this problem with CGI scripts running under apache on Windows. Keep the -w in the file,

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Philip Newton
Mark Fowler wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions? Unix might have a problem if you take the -w out using a windows based editor which will insert some nasty line terminator at the end of the lines and screw up the file. That's what I normally find

Re: Stupid Email

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:32:58AM +, Andy Wardley wrote: There was a moral in this story but I forgot it in the process of rambling on. Probably something about munging Reply-To, or putting all middle management up against a wall and shooting them (which ICL did a short while later).

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread jduncan
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:57:13PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Mark Fowler wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions? Unix might have a problem if you take the -w out using a windows based editor which will insert some nasty line terminator at

Re: XP, testing and perl

2001-01-24 Thread Philip Newton
Greg Cope wrote: Does Anyone know of any good perl test tutorials - i.e how to make various test suites for a perl modules "make test" target ? I've seen the Test::Harness stuff - but am after a guide - or a few simple examples. All the code I read in CPAN modules t/ dir appears to be

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr... I

Re: Stupid Email

2001-01-24 Thread Andy Wardley
On Jan 24, 11:07am, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: The line I heard was "they decided to line up all the inept middle managers at ICL up aganst a wall but they couldn't find a wll long enough..." That's frighteningly close to being true. I worked at ICL Bracknell 01, the large building you see

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:35:17PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: Let's be kind to the poor Windows users, encouraging them with the lure of free powerful software; once they get a taste for it they'll be begging you to help them get Linux installed as a dual boot on their home machines, then

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:43:46PM +, Michael Stevens typed: We need to just get on with using linux, and other sensible stuff, and IF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS then we can tell them about it. But we shouldn't try to promote it as what they want, because invariably they start going

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:46:13PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:43:46PM +, Michael Stevens typed: We need to just get on with using linux, and other sensible stuff, and IF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS then we can tell them about it. But we shouldn't try

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Mark Fowler
As I seemed to be destined to be ignored, I'll do what I should have done and shoult a little louder: UltraEdit32 is a really good windows editor[1] if you like the way of Windows. It does all the right things (in the way that perl does all the right things) with line endings. And a lot more

Re: Stupid Email

2001-01-24 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Andy Wardley wrote: Meanwhile, the usual bunch of know-nothing, self-important idiots with nothing better to do (i.e. failed middle management moved sideways to another middle managment position) starting sending replies to everyone demanding that they stop being sent

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Robert Shiels
From: "Michael Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2001 12:43 Subject: Re: odd -w effect OTOH, that doesn't help us much with the desirable goal of getting unix used more in the workplace. I dunno. Well, it does actually, in a roundabout way. People who run it

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Simon Wistow
Michael Stevens wrote: I hate to say it, but I'm slowly becoming converted to windows cut paste. I like being able to highlight a block of text and hit ctrl-v to replace that with the contents of the clipboard. troll Why do you hate to say it? It's better than cut and paste of X. Linux

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Richard Clamp
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:50PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: Emacs is available for windows. Now if I can just persuade it to save with unix line ending conventions... Having recently done this, the thing you want is set-buffer-file-coding-system, the default keybinding being 'C-x RET

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread James Powell
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:39:13PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:36:40PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed: I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins you see

RE: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Jonathan Peterson
*nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh well. Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment.

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Robert Shiels
From: "Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh well. Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:18:17PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: Must remember to try IE under WINE. Don't bother. It doesn't work. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is nice. Any idea what body-part it is?

RE: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Bates, Duncan
I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest way to produce it. so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in? -- Duncan Bates Developer Proxicom UK Tel: 020 7321 3812 Mobile: 07884 336 532 http://www.proxicom.com/

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dean S Wilson
-Original Message- From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment. Strangely enough, thats exactly what I do at home. With Exceed for doing X stuff. If you've got a nice meaty

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dean S Wilson
Original Message- From: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Must remember to try IE under WINE. Don't bother. It doesn't work. I've seen IE5 running under wine on Debian. The machine did have a 98 partition though so he might have been using the libraries from there, is that cheating?

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: From: "Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh well. Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine

Web site

2001-01-24 Thread Neil Ford
Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Neil. -- Neil C. Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.binky.ourshack.org

Re: Web site

2001-01-24 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:36:28PM +, Neil Ford wrote: I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? http://dave.told.us.to is correct though :-) -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread DJ Adams
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:23:57PM -, Bates, Duncan wrote: I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest way to produce it. so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in? docbook? markup / WYSINWYG rules dj

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread DJ Adams
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment. I'm with you on that one. That's what I'm doing right now, and with PuTTY being such a great

RE: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:23:57 -, "Bates, Duncan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest way to produce it. so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in? Oh, I'd probably do something based using the

Re: Web site

2001-01-24 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me. Dave..

Re: Web site

2001-01-24 Thread Neil Ford
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me. Dave.. The

Re: Web site

2001-01-24 Thread Simon_Wilcox
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me. Dave..

Re: Web site

2001-01-24 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:20:36 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps?

Re: Web site

2001-01-24 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:41:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Which

Re: word processors

2001-01-24 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:35:17PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I wonder if anyone has written a novel in Latex? That sounds like a challenge to me :-) You have to set it in Computer Modern as well though. .robin.

Re: word processors

2001-01-24 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 05:11:25PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: Much as I love Computer Modern for technical work, using it for fiction would just be WRONG WRONG WRONG. In a good way :-) .robin.

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment. Aye aye. Windows UI is much nicer than

Re: Dumb-assed question

2001-01-24 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:17:45PM +, Robin Houston wrote: I suppose you were hoping for a simpler procedure, but this is the simplest I've found. Possibly IE doesn't have that problem. It has others, it'll s/\./_/g for all except the last. Exercise: Implement the "except the last" in a

Re: Dumb-assed question

2001-01-24 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:42:58PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: Exercise: Implement the "except the last" in a regex :-) Extra points for squeezing it into a single regex rather than a while / $' solution s/\.(?=.*\.)/_/g; .robin. -- Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new

JOB: desperately seeking symbian

2001-01-24 Thread jo walsh
a friend asked me to pass this on, it seems interesting. (symbian looking for 1 junior 1 senior perm perl bods) in a parallel world where i have cft, this has gone in the jobs database. um. -- The contact details are: Dave Jobling