easier said than done - it's a lot easier to hire good people than
convince clients that perl is the way forward - i may be wrong but i think
there are less and less big Perl projects out there available to perl
consultancies. once you get to a particular price bracket (necessary to
afford and
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, alex wrote:
easier said than done - it's a lot easier to hire good people than
convince clients that perl is the way forward - i may be wrong but i think
there are less and less big Perl projects out there available to perl
consultancies. once you get to a particular
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Mark Fowler wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Aaron Trevena wrote:
I think java is likely to be associated with a load of spectacular
failures.
To be fair, most of these won't be Java's fault. It's just that Java is
No, they'll be the vendor JVM's fault. :)
the first
Chris Devers wrote:
In any event, the leading 1 is never part of the phone
number, but you always have to dial it whenever making a
"long distance" call.
Well, I would have thought that's just splitting hairs -- is the '0' part of
the number 0207 xxx is the number 207 xxx "but you
* Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I think its partially the vendors fault - they are pushing java as a
solution for things it clearly isn't right for.
out of curiousity - such as (i.e. which vendors are pushing java for
inappropriate problem sapces)?
--
Greg McCarroll
Neil Ford wrote:
I suppose I'd be splitting hairs if I pointed out that the
dialing code for London is 020, meaning numbers should be
shown as 020 .
Oh, all right. Thanks to Neil and Simon for the correction. I suppose this
misapprehension comes partly because it *used* to be two
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:16:07PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
I'd also add that Java, to my eyes, seems dreadfully uncooperative. Is it
really as hard as it seems to get a non Java program to talk to j2ee stuff?
Or is it all just part of the Java marketing? Is it me or is COM actually
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I think its partially the vendors fault - they are pushing java as a
solution for things it clearly isn't right for.
out of curiousity - such as (i.e. which vendors are pushing java for
I'm very happy this afternoon. I've just seen a copy of my book on
a shelf in a bookshop[1]. That's the first time I've seen it in the
wild. Of course, I'd have been happier if someone had been buying it :)
Dave...
[1] It was Books etc. at Monument if anyone wants to rush out and buy
it!
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:02:48PM +0100, alex wrote:
ps the big killer is that there is no large corporate generating tons of
noise about Perl - whereas this is not the case for Java.
Wait until TPC.
--
Thus spake the master programmer:
"After three days without programming, life
Greg McCarroll wrote:
# locally an rpc call is made to the remote package server, which creates
# an object and returns the local id to the other machine
That was the way I was thinking of doing it as well.
Hmm, nother thing to add to the list of things to do.
Robin Houston wrote:
A stateful server would definitely help here.
It was going to be a stateful server. But stateless could be an option.
Is the intention simply that it be possible to use modules
which aren't available locally?
If so, you could do something like:
- use request is passed to module server
- module server "require"s module (will do nothing if it's already
been required. That's a good thing)
- server
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:34:41 +0100, Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:02:48PM +0100, alex wrote:
ps the big killer is that there is no large corporate generating
tons of noise about Perl - whereas this is not the case for Java.
Wait until TPC.
Sounds
Code I wrote to do most of what you people are talking about a couple of
weeks back, loading over ssh.
This does not work for non-pure perl code. i.e. XS is a no-no
The idea I was using it for:
a) User presses a button in the web browser
b) Downloads .config.html from that directory the
"Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The recent .com crash has had many desirable effects as well as undesirable
ones, and one of these is the devaluation in hype in .com related
technologies. An awful lot of the value of the big packages is based on
future value - "You don't need
Simon Wistow wrote:
It was origially 01 ne c'est pas?
(ITYM "n'est-ce pas?") Yes, it was. I remember that time.
Cheers,
Philip
--
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All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Dominic Mitchell wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:08:59PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
Discuss.
s/fuck|tits|arse//;
Nonono. You want reusable components so you don't end up reinventing the
wheel, badly.
use Regexp::Common 'clean'; # don't muck with my $,
s/$RE{profanity}//g;
I happen to know of a nice perl / linux admin gig in the midlands if
anyone wants it ...
mail me offlist if you would be so kind.
--
Robin Szemeti
The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!
i'm not sure this does cut both ways - if what you are saying is correct -
then java's dominance becomes even more of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
i don't think it's the corporates themselves who are making all the noise
about java - it's an aggressive sun PR department which is latching on to
Original Message-
From: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:02:48PM +0100, alex wrote:
ps the big killer is that there is no large corporate generating
tons of
noise about Perl - whereas this is not the case for Java.
Wait until TPC.
Ahh come on! We need more
Robin Houston wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:23:01PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
I concur. There is simply too much of the important stuff missing from
Java to make it useable for web content delivery as far as I can tell.
I just couldn't do half of what I do without regexes
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:38:51 +0200, Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Has anyone else heard anything about yapc::Europe::19101?
Yeah. Dates and venues and stuff have been announced. And there was
a CFP. It's all on http://www.yapc.org/Europe/.
ISTR dimly that last year around this time
I quote from the MediaSurface brochure on my desk:
"The Content Server is written in Perl, the de facto standard language for
server-side applications on the World Wide Web."
It's not just that, if a software house wants to support a languages
interaction with its product, where does it go
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:59:40PM +, Greg Cope wrote:
I was thinking about this the otherday - can you recommend some (pref
open source) Java regex libs ?
OROMatcher.
http://jakarta.apache.org/oro/index.html
There's also gnu.regexp, for LGPL fans:
http://www.cacas.org/~wes/java/
Both
On 28/03/2001 at 13:23 +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:09:37 +0100, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[London phone codes]
It was origially 01 ne c'est pas? Then it changed to 071 (Inner
London) and 081 (Greater London) then it changed to 0171 and 0181 and
then finally to
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:46:43PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
nahh .. not much of a games fan .. so 3d is rather wasted on me .. but
I'll keep winders (which is already annoying the F..k out of me [1]) fo
rthngs like Autoroute and the like, which are actually very good .. in a
windoze sort
Robin Houston wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:59:40PM +, Greg Cope wrote:
I was thinking about this the otherday - can you recommend some (pref
open source) Java regex libs ?
OROMatcher.
http://jakarta.apache.org/oro/index.html
There's also gnu.regexp, for LGPL fans:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:23:01PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
I concur. There is simply too much of the important stuff missing from
Java to make it useable for web content delivery as far as I can tell.
I just couldn't do half of what I do without
Dave Cross wrote:
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:38:51 +0200, Philip Newton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone else heard anything about yapc::Europe::19101?
Yeah. Dates and venues and stuff have been announced. And there was
a CFP. It's all on http://www.yapc.org/Europe/.
I know. Thing is,
Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether:
Has anyone else heard anything about yapc::Europe::19101?
No. Yes. Maybe? ;-)
Well, you'll all be happy to know that we're resurrecting the old
yapc::Europe mailing list[1] to give everyone a better idea of what's
going on. Planning is
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:37:14PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
David H. Adler wrote:
What, no CiP rating???
Well, there wasn't any Perl code included. But it should be pretty
straightforward to hack the algorithm together, or might as well hijack the
Convert::Base32 module for the
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:33:16 -0500, "David H. Adler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:37:14PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
David H. Adler wrote:
What, no CiP rating???
Well, there wasn't any Perl code included. But it should be pretty
straightforward to hack the
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk
proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Approx module :)
You are an evil man.
MBM
--
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http://colondot.net/ Work:
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:38:16 +0100 (BST), Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk
proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Approx module :)
You are an evil man.
You know I'm
Jon Galliers wrote:
I have a real fear that this is a really stupid question, however I'm
having real problems using Archive::Zip.
Try something like:
use strict;
use Archive::Zip qw( :ERROR_CODES :CONSTANTS );
my $zip = Archive::Zip-new();
my $member = $zip-addFile("boris.pl");
* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether:
Has anyone else heard anything about yapc::Europe::19101?
No. Yes. Maybe? ;-)
Well, you'll all be happy to know that we're resurrecting the old
yapc::Europe mailing list[1] to give
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:35:33AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk
proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Approx module :)
What does it do?
.robin.
--
Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:37:14PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
David H. Adler wrote:
What, no CiP rating???
Well, there wasn't any Perl code included. But it should be pretty
straightforward to hack the algorithm together, or might as well
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:44:07 +0100, Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:35:33AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk
proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Approx module :)
What does it do?
It, er...
cheers, sorted
Try something like:
use strict;
use Archive::Zip qw( :ERROR_CODES :CONSTANTS );
my $zip = Archive::Zip-new();
my $member = $zip-addFile("boris.pl");
$member-desiredCompressionLevel(9);
$zip-writeToFileNamed("boris.zip") == AZ_OK or die "Zip write error";
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Robin Houston wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:23:01PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
I concur. There is simply too much of the important stuff missing from
Java to make it useable for web content delivery as far as I can tell.
I just couldn't do half of what I
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:09:50PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
the fuckwits at Oftel lumbered us with 01[78]1 in the first place is
something of a mystery to me...
Was it Oftel that made that choice or BT? I was assumed it was the
lumbering ineptitude of The World's Most Evil Phone Company (to
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:52:23AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:44:07 +0100, Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:35:33AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk
proposes the creation
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:08:59PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
I reckon interperability is big, and that XML-RPC (or possibly even
SOAP) will change the way we work. There's no point writing everything
in one language or environment any more. Microsoft may have understood
this with .NET.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:05:18AM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 04:11:13PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
I don't suppose anyone else chose 'root' as their primary account
name during install?
I did and am wondering if this is why my OS X installation is totally
hosed
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
There must have been *some* way Oftel could have made something similar
work here.
The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but-
it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:58:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
It's not just that, if a software house wants to support a languages
interaction with its product, where does it go for Perl? P5P? CLPM?
NetThink? :)
Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest
problems
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:04:34AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:09:50PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
the fuckwits at Oftel lumbered us with 01[78]1 in the first place is
something of a mystery to me...
Was it Oftel that made that choice or BT? I was assumed it was
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Philip Newton wrote:
I'll try the yapc-europe list and see what happens.
The rest, as they say, is history :)
/J\
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:10:00PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote:
Plain and simply I don't think java is the right technology for
e-commerce, plain and simple.
Why not?
Can Perl do distributed database transactions?
probably .. simple multi threaded app,
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:10:00PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote:
Plain and simply I don't think java is the right technology for
e-commerce, plain and simple.
Why not?
Can Perl do distributed database transactions? Can you write stored
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest
problems with Perl work in london, coming from the other side of
things.
Hmm. I wonder how we could go about fixing that.
My favourite solution in business when you are faced
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:08:59PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
I reckon interperability is big, and that XML-RPC (or possibly even
SOAP) will change the way we work. There's no point writing everything
in one language or environment any more.
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and
they say they're booked out next Thursday.
ok it looks like PO
.. or the anchor!
--
Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:08:00PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Can Perl do distributed database transactions?
probably .. simple multi threaded app, fork a few child processes,
establish the odd DBI connection, execute a query each return when
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:48:05PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
ok it looks like PO
.. or the anchor!
Anchor! Anchor! Anchor!
--
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This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine.
** I
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Anyone interested in this should contact Dave Jobling directly on
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And you'll get to work just a couple of yards from me!
'nuff said .
/J\
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
I suggest (with Dave Cross' blessing), that we
form the London.pm certification. NetThink and Iterative will
sign up to teach to a given level of skills (or several levels).
Fuck
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Anyone interested in this should contact Dave Jobling directly on
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And you'll get to work just a couple of yards from me!
'nuff
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:48:05PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
ok it looks like PO
.. or the anchor!
Anchor! Anchor! Anchor!
Hush now brother, contain thy enthusiasm, others are still not ready
for the way of the heretic. We
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
I suggest (with Dave Cross' blessing), that we
form the London.pm certification. NetThink and Iterative will
sign up to teach to a
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:
it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
() -
Twelve and eight digit phone numbers? So phalanxes of psychologists
noting that the human brain has the magic number seven genetically
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest
problems with Perl work in london, coming from the other side of
things.
Hmm. I wonder how we could go about fixing that.
At 12:04 PM 28.3.2001 -0800, you wrote:
Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by
those new fangled 'letters'. Works for DNS...
Yeah, exactly. We're already partly there, sort of. I don't know the phone numbers of
any of the people I call at all regularly (i.e. more
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and
they say they're booked out next Thursday.
ok it looks like PO
.. or the
Michael Stevens sent the following bits through the ether:
Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and
they say they're booked out next Thursday.
Michael, you're *useless*!
The only reason I haven't got the weekly summary out yet is because of
you being so useless. It has
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:51:10PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote:
I think that's what Paul was talking about. He can correct me
if I'm wrong :-)
Exactly what I meant :-) And Java's a whole lot better for this than
COBOL, C, and other things that make you go "blech".
J2EE is horribly bloated but
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
TIMTOWTDI kind of screws things up. Different people will code in
different styles. How can you evaluate this?
it doesn't matter how they achieve most things, as long as they can
do them ...
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
If I see a sensible plan for certification, this sounds sensible, but
consider what most people think of eg. MCSEs.
That's mainly due to the M rather than the C.
--
She said that she was working for the ABC News,
It was as
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
If I see a sensible plan for certification, this sounds sensible, but
consider what most people think of eg. MCSEs.
That's mainly due to the M rather than the C.
OK, well some of
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:57:45PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
Maybe I should start a mailing list for discussion of this stuff tomorrow
- thoughts ?
Sounds a good idea. We're also happy to host it, if you want.
--
"Irrigation of the land with seawater desalinated by fusion power is
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:
it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
() -
Twelve and eight digit phone numbers? So phalanxes of psychologists
noting
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:04:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Hush now brother, contain thy enthusiasm, others are still not ready
for the way of the heretic. We must consider them - they are the
sheep that may prefer their 2 half pints of lager shandy in PO, and!,
and if they are exposed
At 18:52 28/03/2001, you wrote:
Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and
they say they're booked out next Thursday.
OK. Looks like it's back to the PO next Thursday then people.
Dave...
--
http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
plugData Munging with Perl
At 20:47 28/03/2001, you wrote:
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest
problems with Perl work in london, coming from the other side of
things.
Hmm. I wonder how we could go about fixing that.
My favourite
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:04:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Hush now brother, contain thy enthusiasm, others are still not ready
for the way of the heretic. We must consider them - they are the
sheep that may prefer their 2 half pints of
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
If I see a sensible plan for certification, this sounds sensible, but
consider what most people think of eg. MCSEs.
*We* may look down on the qualification, cos we know it's worthless just
like most other qualifications,
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:07:42PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
.. or the anchor!
Where is the Anchor ? If its near LB station I'll be very up for it.
Oh, it's *very* near London Bridge. It would be the ideal venue. It
has nice beer,
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:19:55PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
London. Don't expect that to change soon either - as they've just started
charging for tests.
Perhaps the Perl community should have an online certification program
that funnels cash into the Conway Coffers? :-)
No, wait, that might
At 21:57 28/03/2001, you wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:19:05PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
gellyfish@orpheus gellyfish]$ python -v
snip
Python 1.5.2 (#1, Aug 25 2000, 09:33:37) [GCC 2.96 2731
(experimental)] on linux-i386
Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam
aol excuse="mailman"
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote:
http://www.tekmetrics.com/ aka brainbench seems to still be going
strong.
And last time I looked, they claimed I was the best Perl programmer in
London. Don't expect that to change soon either - as they've just started
charging for tests.
well I just
At 22:19 28/03/2001, Dave Cross wrote:
At 21:24 28/03/2001, Simon wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:58:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest
problems with Perl work in london,
http://www.tekmetrics.com/ aka brainbench seems to
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:29:46PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
advantage over other databases - speed. But I wasn't allowed to upgrade
to (eg) postgresql for silly reasons which I forget now.
Your PHBastard called in a $200k/month Oracle DBA and you walked after
the weekend to find your root
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:20:55PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
aol excuse="mailman"
Python 1.5.2 (#0, Apr 3 2000, 14:46:48) [GCC 2.95.2 2313 (Debian
GNU/Linux)] on linux2
My excuse was portsentry, but it sucked and I deleted it.
majordomo is the one true mailing list manager, and
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:32:15PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
well I just looked ... and their script failed to find 'Perl' even though
they have a test for Perl ...
I hope this isn't the programming language equivalent of dot-bomb
stock becoming unlisted as 'junk' on the NASDAQ...
"Perl
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:22:37PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
There _was_ a Perl certification mailing list that Skud started a while
back.
Unless we're thinking of different things, wasn't that just perl-trainers?
Don't know if it still exists tho' - been quiet for a while.
Nothing on
At 12:24 PM 28.3.2001 -0800, you wrote:
http://www.tekmetrics.com/ aka brainbench seems to still be going
strong.
Heh -- they're one of my company's main competitors. I don't know the first thing
about them (aside from the I think reasonable assumption that they must do roughly the
same things
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 04:45:09PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote:
Heh -- they're one of my company's main competitors. I don't know the first
thing about them
*cough*. Hey, that's not good, you know. :)
--
The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be
regarded as a
At 22:44 28/03/2001, you wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:22:37PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
There _was_ a Perl certification mailing list that Skud started a while
back.
Unless we're thinking of different things, wasn't that just perl-trainers?
No. There was definitely a perlcert as well.
At 10:49 PM 28.3.2001 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 04:45:09PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote:
Heh -- they're one of my company's main competitors.
I don't know the first thing about them
*cough*. Hey, that's not good, you know. :)
Well, yeah, I suppose. :)
I just keep our
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:35:25AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:05:18AM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 04:11:13PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
I don't suppose anyone else chose 'root' as their primary account
name during install?
I did
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:48:05PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
ok it looks like PO
.. or the anchor!
Do either do real ale?
L.
"Take your haddock to the paddock"
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:26:38PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
(my pseudo-transaction scheme for MySQL is basically : .. do this and
return a closure to undo it if I to .. bung the closures in an array ..
if something screws up then back it all off by
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
The US approach (longer local numbers- everywhere is 7 digits now,
prepended by a three digit 'city' code) combined with the fact there
s/city/area/;
NYC, for instance, has at least two area codes at this point. I
notice, in
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by
those new fangled 'letters'. Works for DNS...
Oh @deity, let's not do that. Consider the mess the WIPO's causing
now, and then think about competition for "good"
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:57:45PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
Maybe I should start a mailing list for discussion of this stuff tomorrow
- thoughts ?
Sounds a good idea. We're also happy to host it, if you want.
either is ok, although once/if
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:04:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Hush now brother, contain thy enthusiasm, others are still not ready
for the way of the heretic. We must consider them - they are the
sheep that may prefer their 2 half pints of
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
At 21:57 28/03/2001, you wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at
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