Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Cross
At 12:12 19/05/2001, Robin Houston wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 11:30:28PM +0100, Barry Pretsell wrote: It sounds like a good idea (must be better than having 3 editions of Programming Perl) and I'm tempted to give it a go, so any Safari subscribers out there with an opinion? Don't

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Cross
At 01:46 20/05/2001, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 07:20:31AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: Who here has written a book? Simon and Dave at least. It's not easy, is it? You're asking the wrong guy. I don't write books for money, I write them to contribute information. Don't

Buffy - Argh!

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Cross
For some reason, on Friday night Sky One, NTL and my VCR all conspired against me to give me a recording of Buffy and Angel with perfect picture and no sound. I'm guessing that's not how they were intended to be seen. If anyone can lend me a recording at some time this week I'd be most

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Cross
At 17:28 19/05/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote: Robin Houston writes: Don't forget the ever-fabulous http://corvin.spb.ru/ I'd also like to say that I'm pretty disgusted that the Perlmongers, of all people, would advocate pirating the Camel.

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Cross
At 00:18 20/05/2001, Dean S Wilson wrote: I suppose the issue with books as PDF is that it leaves you wide open to rampant copying... A problem we're currently encountering with DMP. Some dickhead in Israel thinks it's clever to distribute the PDF for free from his website. Dave... --

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Cross
At 00:06 20/05/2001, James Powell wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as follows; The really interesting bit was Mr

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Barry Pretsell
A problem we're currently encountering with DMP. Some dickhead in Israel thinks it's clever to distribute the PDF for free from his website. Why do Manning sell their books online as pdf files? and do they plan to stop it now that rampant copying is taking place? Barry - Original Message

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Cross
At 10:14 20/05/2001, Barry Pretsell wrote: A problem we're currently encountering with DMP. Some dickhead in Israel thinks it's clever to distribute the PDF for free from his website. Why do Manning sell their books online as pdf files? and do they plan to stop it now that rampant copying

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never really understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to objectify women in this way. Just 'cause no one would

Piracy (was Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?)

2001-05-20 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At 17:28 19/05/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote: Robin Houston writes: Don't forget the ever-fabulous http://xx.xxx.xx/ I'd also like to say that I'm pretty disgusted that the Perlmongers, of

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Sun, 20 May 2001, Barry Pretsell wrote: A problem we're currently encountering with DMP. Some dickhead in Israel thinks it's clever to distribute the PDF for free from his website. Why do Manning sell their books online as pdf files? and do they plan to stop it now that rampant

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At 00:06 20/05/2001, James Powell wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At 00:06 20/05/2001, James Powell wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread duncan
I suspect the current 'Lad's' magazines phase is a backlash against the crazy political correctness of the 80's .. hopefully the whole thing will settle down eventually. [snip] I do find it rather objectionable is having them learing off the counter of every petrol station and newsagent you go

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At 00:18 20/05/2001, Dean S Wilson wrote: I suppose the issue with books as PDF is that it leaves you wide open to rampant copying... A problem we're currently encountering with DMP. Some dickhead in Israel thinks it's clever to distribute

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Martin Ling
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 10:47:43AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I suspect the current 'Lad's' magazines phase is a backlash against the crazy political correctness of the 80's .. hopefully the whole thing will settle down eventually. I don't particularly care that much about it. The women in

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Simon Cozens
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 09:10:02PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: I'm curious what the perceived payback is on books: kudos on the one hand, benefit to humankind on the other, and then cash. How does it all stack up? The kudos is fun but unless you write something completely earth-shattering,

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Simon Cozens
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 11:23:05AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I have in the past had a pirate copy of O'Reillys Network Bookshelf ... but a) I would not have paid for the CD in the first place and b) Iliked what I saw so much that I went on to buy a whole bookcase full of O'Reilly stuff.

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Simon Cozens
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:49:56AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: I disagree. IMO, posting a link to site containing pirate copies of books _is_ advocating piracy. YMMV. Here is how to do it. Now *you* have a choice. Have you read A treatise on the construction of locks? -- The C Programming

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Dave Cross [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: * *I disagree. IMO, posting a link to site containing pirate copies of books *_is_ advocating piracy. YMMV. In a world that advocates Napster, this is no different. Someone buys a copy of the book, scans it in and shares it with the world. Outrage by the

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Niklas Nordebo
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 07:27:39AM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: You can't expect to steal music and then bitch about how someone is stealing copies of your book on line. Ah, good old piracy is theft analogy - what would we do without you? I think I'll start reloading that russian site

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 05:15:44PM +0200, Niklas Nordebo wrote: Seriously, I don't advocate copyright violation, but I much prefer it to theft or high sea piracy if people are going to commit crimes. I always found arms trafficking far more fun. Although I supposed nowadays we should be

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Cross
At 13:27 20/05/2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: You can't expect to steal music and then bitch about how someone is stealing copies of your book on line. True. But just so as we know where we all stand. I have only ever used Napster to find copies of unavailable music. Dave... --

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Cross
At 10:52 20/05/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote: I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never really understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-20 Thread Robert Shiels
I bought 3 CDs yesterday, about 32 quids worth . I downloaded 2 Napster tracks last week. I object to paying 3.99 gbp (for a single), or 12.99gbp (for an album track) to just get one song. However, if I hear another track from those artists, and like it, I will probably get the full album. I

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 00:06 20/05/2001, James Powell wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Mike Jarvis
Sunday, May 20, 2001, 3:19:47 AM, Dave Cross wrote: DC And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man) was DC simply by looking at a photo. This is really two questions: 1) Can you tell from looking at a photo if this is someone you'd like to have a relationship with?

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Dave Cross
At 20:50 20/05/2001, Mike Jarvis wrote: Sunday, May 20, 2001, 3:19:47 AM, Dave Cross wrote: DC And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man) was DC simply by looking at a photo. This is really two questions: 1) Can you tell from looking at a photo if this is someone you'd

Re: [OT] Cordelia (was Re: They are all vampires!)

2001-05-20 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 06:40:32AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: Speaking of vampires, you've got a treat coming up with Angel. After the exploitative tv show there was a lull of a week, and then ... Boobapalooza! You boys will be capturing plenty of stills from the season-ending shows.