Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-16 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:


 Some people asked about how to get on the modlist, as far as I know
 the process is detailed here 

   http://www.cpan.org/modules/04pause.html#namespace


And I bet Johan was figuring on a quiet weekend :)

/J\




CMS frameworks

2001-06-16 Thread Dave Hodgkinson


Some guys out here in Brizzle want to do Yet Another CMS. Are there
any frameworks out there they can plug together to make something
plausible?

I guess bits of the 2.0 slashcode do the job nicely, what with being
TT based and all.


Any other offers?




Re: CMS frameworks

2001-06-16 Thread Steve Mynott

Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Any other offers?

http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/

-- 
1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

bom shankar



Re: CMS frameworks

2001-06-16 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:


 Some guys out here in Brizzle want to do Yet Another CMS. Are there
 any frameworks out there they can plug together to make something
 plausible?


What is CMS ?  I guess it isnt the Compact Muon Solenoid in this context.

/J\




Re: CMS frameworks

2001-06-16 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What is CMS ?  I guess it isnt the Compact Muon Solenoid in this context.

content management.

AFAIK IANAL.

-- 
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
  Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
   



brief penderel outage

2001-06-16 Thread jo walsh


i'm taking penderel down for a little bit
services shouldnt be gone too long
all will be back better and shinier sooner

jo




Re: brief penderel outage

2001-06-16 Thread Greg McCarroll

* jo walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 i'm taking penderel down for a little bit
 services shouldnt be gone too long
 all will be back better and shinier sooner
 
 jo

jo++ # for doing this sort of stuff on a saturday


-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: brief penderel outage

2001-06-16 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 * jo walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  i'm taking penderel down for a little bit
  services shouldnt be gone too long
  all will be back better and shinier sooner
  
  jo
 
 jo++ # for doing this sort of stuff on a saturday

* _Dave passes Jo a life
* _Dave calls the pot _and_ the kettle black

-- 
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
  Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
   



Re: CMS frameworks

2001-06-16 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 12:09:53PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Any other offers?
  http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/
 Why do all these things have to look like Slashdot? It that now the
 ONLY metaphor for these things. I know Nielsen would approve of the
 familiarity part but...

...Nielsen's a fuckwit?

It is interesting that this is the conclusion that we came to at work while
trying to analyse web forums...
... we weren't impressed.

MBM




Re: CMS frameworks

2001-06-16 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 12:09:53PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
  Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Any other offers?
   http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/
  Why do all these things have to look like Slashdot? It that now the
  ONLY metaphor for these things. I know Nielsen would approve of the
  familiarity part but...
 
 ...Nielsen's a fuckwit?

No, that's not what I was implying. But yes, that's debateable.

One of his usability arguments is that if you're trying to build a
usable site, you really want to make it work like all the others. And
slashdot have their niche sewn up.


 It is interesting that this is the conclusion that we came to at work while
 trying to analyse web forums...
 ... we weren't impressed.

Add it to the all $things suck list.
-- 
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
  Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
   



(Open|Net)BSD local root exploit

2001-06-16 Thread David Cantrell

As there's plenty of BSDers here, and I expect that at least some of you
don't subscribe to Bugtraq and friends ...

http://www.securityfocus.com/vdb/?id=2873

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/

  Good advice is always certain to be ignored,
  but that's no reason not to give it-- Agatha Christie



Re: (Open|Net)BSD local root exploit

2001-06-16 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 As there's plenty of BSDers here, and I expect that at least some of you
 don't subscribe to Bugtraq and friends ...
 
 http://www.securityfocus.com/vdb/?id=2873
 

Yeah but its a local exploit, so it ain't that bad. I'm generally
of the opinion (warning ADD discussion on the horizon) that 
if someone gets into your box they can get r00t, so best to deal
with the problem before that and keep a careful eye of
people who are you in your box.

Its a bit like castle really, with external security and guards
wandering the corridors, if a sufficiently skilled assasin/thief
can get past the external security,  he can evade your normal
internal security and kill your king or steal your treasure.
Unless of course you hire Vadrienal the Elven Assasin/Fighter
to help guard your treasure (ok i'm going to far now).  

However this reminds me of how a top notch security consultant from a 
3 letter company described the security of a product i was at a time 
involved with (not in a security capacity).

He explained in a manner similar to the following 

Imagine you want to protect something, and its a treasure
chest, now you put the treasure chest in a room, you lock
the room. The room is in a castle, there are guards wandering
the corridors checking for intruders. The castle only has
one entrance via the drawbridge, its heavily guarded and all
incoming visitors are watched closely. There are guards on
the castle wall watching that no one tries to swim the moat.

Now imagine a big field, with a treasure chest in the middle
of it - this is your security.

Greg




-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



YAPC::Europe and Dungeons and Dragons

2001-06-16 Thread Greg McCarroll


 of the opinion (warning ADD discussion on the horizon) that 

i've got a new plan for the London.pm ADD game involving hacking
MudOS, but enought of that on to the point of this post

Do any people going to YAPC::Europe 2001, fancy a one
off ADD game in the hotel (as in THE hotel) DM'd by
yours truly on one of the nights? Probably starting
9ish till late.

 

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



checking your CPAN modules are up to date?

2001-06-16 Thread Dave Hodgkinson


I can't find the incantation! Help!




Re: (Open|Net)BSD local root exploit

2001-06-16 Thread David Cantrell

On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 08:58:02PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 ... ADD discussion on the horizon ...

So, anyone else up for some swords n' sorcery malarkey?

-- 
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  Good advice is always certain to be ignored,
  but that's no reason not to give it-- Agatha Christie



Re: Default library paths

2001-06-16 Thread Matthew Robinson


Had a brain wave this evening and came up with the following solution.

Replace /usr/lib/perl5 with /usr/local/.p5 in the perl binary[1].  Then
create a symlink from /usr/local/.p5 to /usr/local/lib/perl5.  The .p5
directory doesn't display in /usr/local so everything looks neat and tidy.

I am then left with the whole perl installation entirely contained in
/usr/local which means I can remove the Compact Flash card (containing perl)
without leaving any loose ends lying around in the main filesystem of my
iPAQ.

The next challenge will be getting gcc onto the iPAQ so that I can then
rebuild perl from scratch :)

Matt

[1] Strangely enough, perl came in pretty handy for this task.

--
s!msfQ!s$utvKs(Q)\1!sfiupoBs^reverse Ibdlfses^#
s$#!uojsqs(.)chr(ord($1)-1)ges(.*)reverse $1see

- Original Message -
From: Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: Default library paths


 On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:25:32AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
  You're very probably stuck.  Whilst you can use a hex editor to change
  strings in the binary, you can't expand the length of those strings,
  only contract them or retain the same length.
 
  However, a solution would be to change the perl binary to use /opt/lib
  instead of /usr/lib and make /opt a symlink to /usr/local.
 
  There's a couple of reasonable hex editors out there, but I usually just
  tend to use M-x hexl-find-file in emacs.  If you're a vim user, see
  xxd(1).

 Presumably if you know the string, and they're all going to be replaced
 (as sounds like the case) you could use perl -pi -0e
 's~/usr/lib/~/opt/lib~g' in whole-file-slurp mode (is that the right
 switch, -0?).

 Paul

 --
 Intentions
 -credibility of
 -nobility of
 -humility of





Re: checking your CPAN modules are up to date?

2001-06-16 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton

Dave Hodgkinson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*
*I can't find the incantation! Help!

CPAN.pm has an autobundle feature that comes in handy for this. Make an
autobundle then use it to update all the modules you like. 

http://www.cpan.org/misc/cpan-faq.html#How_installed_modules show the use
of ExtUtils::Installed which I use quite a lot for such things and the
question following it also shows how to use autobundle.

enjoy,

e.