Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> "David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Sorry.  Can't make it.  :-(
> 
> we didn't miss you
> 

oh yes we did ...

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Someone's famous...

2000-12-18 Thread Redvers Davies

http://slashdot.org/articles/00/12/18/1914253.shtml

Quote:

"Every time I see this name, I assume people are talking about British Perl
Monger David Cantrell, instead of American Linux Hacker David Cantrell.
Obviously the open source world needs better naming conventions... :)"



Re: Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 08:14:26AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
> At the last minute, Piers wins the award for the most badly timed
> post on london.pm this year.

What's the story here, EMAP switched to Java or something?

Paul, had that happen twice this year already.



Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread David Hodgkinson

"David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Sorry.  Can't make it.  :-(

we didn't miss you

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Re: Compare and Contrast

2000-12-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 10:19:20AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
> 
> We'd need someone with complete archives of (void), London.pm,
> yapc::europe and possibly YAS mailing lists from around July 10th
> (although tehre are mails from July 7th which is weird 'cos I hadn't
> posted the announcement by then).

I may qualify for 2/3 of that...

dha, packrat extrordinaire

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Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 12:02:47PM +, Leon Brocard wrote:
> Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
> 
> > > New World?
> >
> > very good idea - what is the name of the street that it is off
> > the one with the cinema on it
> 
> New World, China Town, 12.30. See you there!

Sorry.  Can't make it.  :-(

dha

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seen the Internet.



RE: Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Dave Cross


From: Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12/18/00 4:34:59 PM

>Dave Cross wrote:
>> But it may be worth pointing out that Sportal are still 
>> looking for Perl developers. CVs to me.
>
> In Germany, too? I know I've seen adverts for Sportal in 
> Germany (assuming it's the same outfit...), but I don't 
> know whether they have an office here, too.

Yep. It's in Munich. But their current Perl resource is at University
in Vienna.

Dave...

-- 


"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one",
he said. But still they come.







Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Philip Newton

Dave Cross wrote:
> But it may be worth pointing out that Sportal are still looking
> for Perl developers. CVs to me.

In Germany, too? I know I've seen adverts for Sportal in Germany (assuming
it's the same outfit...), but I don't know whether they have an office here,
too.

Cheers,
Philip



RE: Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Dave Cross


From: Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12/18/00 11:34:11 AM

>Piers Cawley sent the following bits through the ether:
>
>> > Just as a reminder, still looking for Senior Perl Guys 
>> > to join Leon and the rest of our team, and I get to
>> > donate $1000 if they come from the list *nudge* 
>> > *nudge*.
>> 
>> Hmm... you interested in contractors?
>
> The answer is NO, is many many ways. We here at Emap 
> Online all have lots of free time now. 

But it may be worth pointing out that Sportal are still looking
for Perl developers. CVs to me.

Dave...

-- 


"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one",
he said. But still they come.







Re: Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread James Powell

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 08:14:26AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
> 
> From: Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 12/18/00 9:40:40 AM
> 
> >"Leo Lapworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> [snip]
> >> 
> >> Just as a reminder, still looking for Senior Perl Guys 
> >> to join Leon and the rest of our team, and I get to
> >> donate $1000 if they come from the list *nudge* *nudge*.
> >
> > Hmm... you interested in contractors?
> 
> At the last minute, Piers wins the award for the most badly timed
> post on london.pm this year.
> 
> Second place (by a narrow margin) was Leo's post which Piers
> was replying to.
> 
> Dave...
> 

Third place you for nominating EMAP for services to perl ;) ?


jp



RE: Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Dave Cross


From: Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12/18/00 9:40:40 AM

>"Leo Lapworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Ok, ok, *stop twisting my arm Greg!* yes we did 
>> get Aaron from the perl list.
>> 
>> So I've wangled the authorisation for $500 as 
>> a donation to YAS.
>> 
>> Leon asked me to 'trust' him and give him the money,
>> so if it doesn't get there you know who to lynch.
>> 
>> Just as a reminder, still looking for Senior Perl Guys 
>> to join Leon and the rest of our team, and I get to
>> donate $1000 if they come from the list *nudge* *nudge*.
>
> Hmm... you interested in contractors?

At the last minute, Piers wins the award for the most badly timed
post on london.pm this year.

Second place (by a narrow margin) was Leo's post which Piers
was replying to.

Dave...

-- 


"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one",
he said. But still they come.







FW: Perl Developer position.

2000-12-18 Thread Dave Cross



This is from an agent who contacted me this morning. I'd have
investigated further myself, but I accepted an offer half an
hour before I heard of it.

Dave...

From: Adam Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12/18/00 12:18:54 PM

> Hi Dave,
>
> here is the initial requirements needed for the Perl 
> Developer consultant at FT.com.
> This information has come from the consultant that is 
> finishing up there.
>
> The skills are required for someone to look after the 
> feeds:
>
> Strong Perl (including DBI). 
> Strong UNIX.
> Reasonable SQL, with a knowledge of Oracle (or similar 
> DBMS).
> Must know basics of HTML and XML.
> Must understand CGI and have a good/ general web 
> knowledge.
> Knowledge of C would be good for the THM migration.
>
> Java/JavaScript, etc skills are not necessary for feed 
> work, although the basics should be understood by any 
> candidate.
>
> Hope this helps - I will get further info soon.  The role 
> is looking for someone to start beginning / middle Jan 
> 2001.
>
> Please forward the names of the Perl / web consultants you

> know or have them contact me on the numbers/ email below. 

>
> Best regards 
>
> Adam
>
> PS - there is a strong possibility of this post offering a

> perm slot/however, if not I also have another exclusive 
> client that is always looking for well recommended Perl 
> consultants/ developers.
>
>
> Adam Bassett
> Technical Consultant
> Maxim Group
> A Division of Aerotek Europe
> Information Technology Consultants
> Therese House 
> 29-30 Glass House Yard
> London, EC1A 4JN
> Tel:  +44(0) 20  7608 8308
> Fax: +44(0) 20  7608 8301
> http://www.aerotek.com
> http://www.maximgroup.com

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Re: discussion of dynamic typing was never so much fun

2000-12-18 Thread Philip Newton

Greg McCarroll wrote:
> from comp.lang.functional ...
> 
> > > Programming in statically typed languages is like having
> > > sex while being handcuffed. Some people think it's
> > > terribly exciting (and fair play to them!), but I find it
> > > rather restrictive. ;-)

Yeah, I saw that on rec.humor.best-of-usenet -- or, rather, a follow-up:

> "Albert Y. C. Lai" wrote:
> > 
> > "felix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Programming in statically typed languages is like having
> > > sex while being handcuffed. Some people think it's
> > > terribly exciting (and fair play to them!), but I find it
> > > rather restrictive. ;-)
> > 
> > This thread is becoming hilarious.  So programming in dynamically
> > typed languages is like having sex without being handcuffed?  And
> > programming in general ...
> 
> 
> In any case, I found often that debugging Lisp is like being
> handcuffed without having sex. But is was also very exciting,
> you never knew what would be the next disaster. 

Any Lispers around?

Cheers,
Philip



Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
> 
> > > New World?
> >
> > very good idea - what is the name of the street that it is off
> > the one with the cinema on it
> 
> New World, China Town, 12.30. See you there!
> 

what is the name of the street that is not in china town but really near
the new world

> Leon
> -- 
> Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
> yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
> 
> ... All new improved Brocard, now with Template Toolkit!
-- 
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Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Leon Brocard

Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:

> > New World?
>
> very good idea - what is the name of the street that it is off
> the one with the cinema on it

New World, China Town, 12.30. See you there!

Leon
-- 
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yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/

... All new improved Brocard, now with Template Toolkit!



Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Piers Cawley sent the following bits through the ether:
> > 
> > > > Just as a reminder, still looking for Senior Perl Guys 
> > > > to join Leon and the rest of our team, and I get to
> > > > donate $1000 if they come from the list *nudge* *nudge*.
> > > 
> > > Hmm... you interested in contractors?
> > 
> > The answer is NO, is many many ways. We here at Emap Online all have
> > lots of free time now. Dim sum today anyone?
> 
> New World?
> 

very good idea - what is the name of the street that it is off
the one with the cinema on it

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread David Hodgkinson

Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Piers Cawley sent the following bits through the ether:
> 
> > > Just as a reminder, still looking for Senior Perl Guys 
> > > to join Leon and the rest of our team, and I get to
> > > donate $1000 if they come from the list *nudge* *nudge*.
> > 
> > Hmm... you interested in contractors?
> 
> The answer is NO, is many many ways. We here at Emap Online all have
> lots of free time now. Dim sum today anyone?

New World?


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Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Piers Cawley sent the following bits through the ether:
> 
> > > Just as a reminder, still looking for Senior Perl Guys 
> > > to join Leon and the rest of our team, and I get to
> > > donate $1000 if they come from the list *nudge* *nudge*.
> > 
> > Hmm... you interested in contractors?
> 
> The answer is NO, is many many ways. We here at Emap Online all have
> lots of free time now. Dim sum today anyone?
> 

err i could do this

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Leon Brocard

Piers Cawley sent the following bits through the ether:

> > Just as a reminder, still looking for Senior Perl Guys 
> > to join Leon and the rest of our team, and I get to
> > donate $1000 if they come from the list *nudge* *nudge*.
> 
> Hmm... you interested in contractors?

The answer is NO, is many many ways. We here at Emap Online all have
lots of free time now. Dim sum today anyone?

Leon
-- 
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yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/

... All new improved Brocard, now with Template Toolkit!



Re: Compare and Contrast

2000-12-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Greg McCarroll wrote:
> 
> > ah, but will you include this discussion as well?
> 
> And will that discussion, include this discussion and will that have an
> effect on the future if I go back into the past and 

can i play Jonny B. Goode now?

-- 
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Re: Compare and Contrast

2000-12-18 Thread Paul Mison

On 18/12/2000 at 10:19 +, Simon Wistow wrote:
>Jonathan Stowe wrote:
>
>> I am beginning to wonder if it is possible to reconstruct this exchange
>> from the beginning - there are obviously things being crossposted out of
>> (void) that I never saw.  Maybe we ought to get this all in one big
>> archive.
>
>We'd need someone with complete archives of (void), London.pm,
>yapc::europe and possibly YAS mailing lists from around July 10th
>(although tehre are mails from July 7th which is weird 'cos I hadn't
>posted the announcement by then).

Yeah, but then some people know not the wonder of NTP.

I do have archives of the first three (but not YAS), as Simon knows
(for we looked through them at the last meeting). Mind you, I'm not
entirely sure how good an idea it would be to drag them all out into
the open again.

Is anyone that interested?

--
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:: all  dead -  jm keynes





Re: Compare and Contrast

2000-12-18 Thread Simon Wistow

Greg McCarroll wrote:

> ah, but will you include this discussion as well?

And will that discussion, include this discussion and will that have an
effect on the future if I go back into the past and ... no, I'm sorry,
I've gone cross eyed.



Re: Compare and Contrast

2000-12-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Jonathan Stowe wrote:
>  
> > I am beginning to wonder if it is possible to reconstruct this exchange
> > from the beginning - there are obviously things being crossposted out of
> > (void) that I never saw.  Maybe we ought to get this all in one big
> > archive.
> 
> We'd need someone with complete archives of (void), London.pm,
> yapc::europe and possibly YAS mailing lists from around July 10th
> (although tehre are mails from July 7th which is weird 'cos I hadn't
> posted the announcement by then).
> 
> Hypermail (http://www.hypermail.org/) should then be able to convert it
> to a ncie HTML archive :)


ah, but will you include this discussion as well?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Compare and Contrast

2000-12-18 Thread Simon Wistow

Greg McCarroll wrote:

> and then do what, torch it?

What! And pass up the oppurtunity for more mischief? Never! I'll not
rest until I've been thoroughly ostracised by the perl community and I
can work safely in Java. Or Python. Or VB. Without fear of ridicule. 

Ok maybe not VB. Even VB programmers ridicule VB programmers.

Simon



Re: Compare and Contrast

2000-12-18 Thread Simon Wistow

Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 
> I am beginning to wonder if it is possible to reconstruct this exchange
> from the beginning - there are obviously things being crossposted out of
> (void) that I never saw.  Maybe we ought to get this all in one big
> archive.

We'd need someone with complete archives of (void), London.pm,
yapc::europe and possibly YAS mailing lists from around July 10th
(although tehre are mails from July 7th which is weird 'cos I hadn't
posted the announcement by then).

Hypermail (http://www.hypermail.org/) should then be able to convert it
to a ncie HTML archive :)



Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Piers Cawley

"Leo Lapworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ok, ok, *stop twisting my arm Greg!* yes we did 
> get Aaron from the perl list.
> 
> So I've wangled the authorisation for $500 as 
> a donation to YAS.
> 
> Leon asked me to 'trust' him and give him the money,
> so if it doesn't get there you know who to lynch.
> 
> Just as a reminder, still looking for Senior Perl Guys 
> to join Leon and the rest of our team, and I get to
> donate $1000 if they come from the list *nudge* *nudge*.

Hmm... you interested in contractors?

-- 
Piers




discussion of dynamic typing was never so much fun

2000-12-18 Thread Greg McCarroll


from comp.lang.functional ...

> > Programming in statically typed languages is like having
> > sex while being handcuffed. Some people think it's
> > terribly exciting (and fair play to them!), but I find it
> > rather restrictive. ;-)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net