Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-13 Thread Michael Stevens

On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 02:53:57PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
  Surely, then, rpm should have the ability to install and fetch
  dependencies from the network automagically? 
 Yes it should.  It doesn't.  Which is why Helix's installer is so much
 easier to use.

start type="holy_war"
Or, more sensibly, debian.

apt-get install foo

already knows how to fetch foo from the network and install, grabbing
any required dependencies.

I even hear you can use it with rpms these days.

Michael



OT : DVD

2001-01-13 Thread Greg McCarroll


Did I hear correctly a rumour recently that you could currently on
in the near future get Dragons Lair on DVD. For those of you unfamiliar
with it Dragons Lair was a laser disk based game where you only had to 
hit one or two buttons each scene. I can't see a reason it couldn't
be done on DVD somehow.

While talking about it, i have a very very old memory of it being
the cover story in computer and video game annual or some such

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net




Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-13 Thread David Cantrell

On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:19:18PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote:

 It continues to amaze me that people still use Red Hat. It's
 just a pile of marketing driven crap. Debian is so far superior
 it hurts watching people struggle with RPMs.

Yeah, I know, but then I compile plenty of stuff from scratch rather than
rely on RPMs.  The real reason I haven't switched is because it's really
*nasty* trying to switch from one distro to another without a) losing
valuable config data and b) ending up with a ton of unused junk on the disk
which is nigh-on impossible to tell apart from stuff that's in use.

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Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-13 Thread Shevek

On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, David Cantrell wrote:

 rely on RPMs.  The real reason I haven't switched is because it's really
 *nasty* trying to switch from one distro to another without a) losing
 valuable config data and b) ending up with a ton of unused junk on the disk
 which is nigh-on impossible to tell apart from stuff that's in use.

I had always committed to the nature of Unix being that one does end up
with a pile of stuff on disk which one doesn't use. The point is that this
doesn't matter. Unless you're upgrading something every day or every week,
the junk pile-up on a production server won't do much more than double or
treble the hard disk usage of the OS, which will be small compared to the
user data, and is still in a small order of magnitude.

I bet you have libc5 and libc6 installed...

It's still smaller than win2k...

S.

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Shevek
I am the Borg.
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