Stupid Email
On Jan 23, 11:53pm, Roger Horne wrote: A single email was sent by the powers that be[1] [...] Similar thing happened when I worked at ICL many moons ago. Some executive sent an email to the 'icl' alias, which for some mind-bogglingly stupid reason was a valid alias expanding to everyone who worked for ICL. After an hour or so, the mail host had failed to deliver this one message to all NN thousand recipients, so it tried to resend it. But of course the machine and network were already a little busy trying to send the first message so it didn't get too far before deciding it had failed and re-sending it. GOTO 10. Meanwhile, the usual bunch of all-knowing, self-righteous idiots with nothing better to do (i.e. failed technical people promoted to middle management) starting sending replies to the sender telling him not to use the global 'icl' alias for such messages. Naturally, they wanted everyone to share from the benefit of their wisdom so they made sure that the original 'icl' distribution was kept intact. Meanwhile, the usual bunch of know-nothing, self-important idiots with nothing better to do (i.e. failed middle management moved sideways to another middle managment position) starting sending replies to everyone demanding that they stop being sent duplicate copies of all these different emails. cc'd to 'icl', of course, because the default (using OfficePower, a truly jank ICL middleware system) was to simply copy the To: and CC: list from the original message. Naturally, it wasn't long before the whole shebang ground to a halt and fell deeply into castors-up mode. One of the interesting things I discovered in the ensuing disentanglement of mail was that our expertly configured mail system would have accepted mail from the outside world to huge aliases like 'icl'. Could we spell "Dinial of Serviss"? I think not. But I gleefully shirked my responsibilies and didn't tell anyone about it, just in case I decided to become a disgruntled ex-employee with a grudge at some point in future. :-)= There was a moral in this story but I forgot it in the process of rambling on. Probably something about munging Reply-To, or putting all middle management up against a wall and shooting them (which ICL did a short while later). A -- Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signature regenerating. Please remain seated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a good time: http://www.kfs.org/~abw/
XP, testing and perl
Dear All All the posts about XP and a Slashdot article about it got me thinking and I have a generic question for the virtual floor. Does Anyone know of any good perl test tutorials - i.e how to make various test suites for a perl modules "make test" target ? I've seen the Test::Harness stuff - but am after a guide - or a few simple examples. All the code I read in CPAN modules t/ dir appears to be written in any old fasion. Clues please, otherwise I'll continue to add to the t/ dir code pool in any old way.. ;-) Greg
Re: odd -w effect
- Original Message - From: "Mark Fowler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2001 11:19 Subject: Re: odd -w effect Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions? I've also had this problem with CGI scripts running under apache on Windows. Keep the -w in the file, that's been my solution. /Robert
Re: odd -w effect
Mark Fowler wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Unix might have a problem if you take the -w out using a windows based
editor which will insert some nasty line terminator at the end of the
lines and screw up the file. That's what I normally find the
problem is when 'nix can't find the file.
That is, replacing \n by \r\n. As you can see in the error message:
": no such file or directory
which is undoubtedly short for qq("/usr/local/bin/perl\r": no such file or
directory) -- the carriage return causing the filename to be overwritten by
the rest of the error message.
Cheers,
Philip
Re: Stupid Email
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:32:58AM +, Andy Wardley wrote: There was a moral in this story but I forgot it in the process of rambling on. Probably something about munging Reply-To, or putting all middle management up against a wall and shooting them (which ICL did a short while later). Was this simple yet violent process found to be of benefit to the company? michael
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:57:13PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
Mark Fowler wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Unix might have a problem if you take the -w out using a windows based
editor which will insert some nasty line terminator at the end of the
lines and screw up the file. That's what I normally find the
problem is when 'nix can't find the file.
That is, replacing \n by \r\n. As you can see in the error message:
": no such file or directory
which is undoubtedly short for qq("/usr/local/bin/perl\r": no such file or
directory) -- the carriage return causing the filename to be overwritten by
the rest of the error message.
Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr... I forgot
that some people use windows.
--james.
PGP signature
Re: XP, testing and perl
Greg Cope wrote: Does Anyone know of any good perl test tutorials - i.e how to make various test suites for a perl modules "make test" target ? I've seen the Test::Harness stuff - but am after a guide - or a few simple examples. All the code I read in CPAN modules t/ dir appears to be written in any old fasion. Well, there's the Test module, which is supposed to help you write tests, specifically, tests that will be run under Test::Harness later. Besides that, I don't know of any good documentation for testing. Maybe some enterprising soul with too much time on his hands could write some (hint, hint). "Patches welcome" :-) You could also try talking to Schwern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), who's the Perl6 "Kwalitee Ashurance" guy and is also working a bit on Perl5 QA. Cheers, Phillip
Re: odd -w effect
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr... I forgot that some people use windows. If only I could. Try using CVS when some people insist on editing with Windows... Emacs is available for windows. Now if I can just persuade it to save with unix line ending conventions... And Xemacs. Seems to work fine with both Unix and DOS line endings, but I haven't yet worked out how to change them. Dave...
Re: Stupid Email
On Jan 24, 11:07am, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: The line I heard was "they decided to line up all the inept middle managers at ICL up aganst a wall but they couldn't find a wll long enough..." That's frighteningly close to being true. I worked at ICL Bracknell 01, the large building you see coming into Bracknell from the A322. On the bottom floor we had the humungous machine hall which accounted for about 2/3rds of the floor space. There were offices surrounding it. People did work here. The machine room was 2 floors high so the first floor had only the offices around the edge and a gallery looking down onto the tops of all the boxes in the machine room. People did work here. The 3rd floor was for sales and marketing suits. They did what they would claim was "work" here. There were a few small groups of people on the 5th floor who also did some real "work". But apart from them, the upper 8 floors of the building were all management. Managers progressed up the company and up the building. In the late eighties, ICL was bleeding money and got bought out by Fujitsu, presumably at a knock-down rate. They kept the top floor and the bottom 3 floors and kicked the rest out. The people that is, not the actual floors themselves. Unfortunately, the few people who did survive the culling were generally the really useless twats who spent their time colouring their noses the right shade of brown and making sure that they weren't the first ones up against the wall when the revolution came. Such is the way. Nevertheless, I was amused that I went from being 13 layers of management separation away from Peter Bonfield, the man at the top, to only 4 away. But he still didn't answer my calls or accept the invitation for a beer after work. :-( A -- Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signature regenerating. Please remain seated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a good time: http://www.kfs.org/~abw/
Re: odd -w effect
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed: I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins you see outside offices. DD is vaguely useful sometimes. Just not when I'm editing text. Anyone played much with PowerArchiver? Freeware WinZip clone. Given how many unregistered copies are floating around... R
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:35:17PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: Let's be kind to the poor Windows users, encouraging them with the lure of free powerful software; once they get a taste for it they'll be begging you to help them get Linux installed as a dual boot on their home machines, then as they get used to it and driver support gets better they'll find themselves booting Linux more than Windows, then their conversion away from the dark side will be complete :-) I think the appropriate attitude is to NOT try to convert people, except possibly in a slightly silly "muh, you must use linux for everything" way that I personally don't take too seriously. We need to just get on with using linux, and other sensible stuff, and IF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS then we can tell them about it. But we shouldn't try to promote it as what they want, because invariably they start going "aargh, it' doesn't have all the shiny windows features, it must suck, and you said it was good", whereas if they get interested in it themselves, and come to you, you've made no promises so they can't be dissappointed. OTOH, that doesn't help us much with the desirable goal of getting unix used more in the workplace. I dunno. Michael
Re: odd -w effect
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:43:46PM +, Michael Stevens typed: We need to just get on with using linux, and other sensible stuff, and IF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS then we can tell them about it. But we shouldn't try to promote it as what they want, because invariably they start going "aargh, it' doesn't have all the shiny windows features, it must suck, and you said it was good", whereas if they get interested in it themselves, and come to you, you've made no promises so they can't be dissappointed. OTOH, that doesn't help us much with the desirable goal of getting unix used more in the workplace. I dunno. I think it's just like proactive evangelism vs "living a good life" - when your box hasn't crashed six times today, and it's running a clone of a production web site faster than the live box, and it's doing all the monitoring for the company, and... people start to say "ooh, how can I get some of that". This is a reaction that hitting them over the head with Debian CDs rarely engenders (though it's fun anyway). Roger
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:46:13PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:43:46PM +, Michael Stevens typed: We need to just get on with using linux, and other sensible stuff, and IF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS then we can tell them about it. But we shouldn't try to promote it as what they want, because invariably they start going "aargh, it' doesn't have all the shiny windows features, it must suck, and you said it was good", whereas if they get interested in it themselves, and come to you, you've made no promises so they can't be dissappointed. OTOH, that doesn't help us much with the desirable goal of getting unix used more in the workplace. I dunno. I think it's just like proactive evangelism vs "living a good life" - when your box hasn't crashed six times today, and it's running a clone of a production web site faster than the live box, and it's doing all the monitoring for the company, and... people start to say "ooh, how can I get some of that". This is a reaction that hitting them over the head with Debian CDs rarely engenders (though it's fun anyway). I was actually thinking religion here as the analogy... Anyway, we seem to be in furious agreement. Michael
Re: odd -w effect
As I seemed to be destined to be ignored, I'll do what I should have done
and shoult a little louder:
UltraEdit32 is a really good windows editor[1] if you like the way of
Windows. It does all the right things (in the way that perl does all the
right things) with line endings. And a lot more (but in a good way, not
in a bloat way)
If you're on Windows and you want to be on Linux then get emacs or
whatever, which do work, but don't bitch about the people using
their metophor of choice not using emacs. Just bitch at them for
using a shit program (e.g. notepad) and give them a really nice
windows style program (e.g. ultraedit). TMTOWTDI.
Later.
Mark.
[1] It's shareware. It's actually the last commerical software (excluding
games) I bought.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: Stupid Email
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Andy Wardley wrote: Meanwhile, the usual bunch of know-nothing, self-important idiots with nothing better to do (i.e. failed middle management moved sideways to another middle managment position) starting sending replies to everyone demanding that they stop being sent duplicate copies of all these different emails. cc'd to 'icl', of course, because the default (using OfficePower, a truly jank ICL middleware system) was to simply copy the To: and CC: list from the original message. OfficePower *sigh* I wrote an X.400 - SMTP gateway for that once - in Perl (4) of Course. /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
Re: odd -w effect
From: "Michael Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2001 12:43 Subject: Re: odd -w effect OTOH, that doesn't help us much with the desirable goal of getting unix used more in the workplace. I dunno. Well, it does actually, in a roundabout way. People who run it at home, will want to play with it at work too. They'll see an old Pentium box in the corner of the office not being used, and stick Linux on it. They will hook it up to the network and /Robert
Re: odd -w effect
Michael Stevens wrote: I hate to say it, but I'm slowly becoming converted to windows cut paste. I like being able to highlight a block of text and hit ctrl-v to replace that with the contents of the clipboard. troll Why do you hate to say it? It's better than cut and paste of X. Linux isn't the be all and end all. It's not even the best Unix clone out there in my opinion - it just has the most support. But if that's the measure of how good it is then Windows is better. Inux just happens to be better at doing most stuff that we need to do. But it doesn't mean that it's the best OS. In fact when you think about it it's a bit shit and is based on 30 year old technology which wasn't even the best OS back then (c.f http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html) but then at least it's not nearly as bad as X is. *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. /troll Simon [grumpy today]
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:50PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: Emacs is available for windows. Now if I can just persuade it to save with unix line ending conventions... Having recently done this, the thing you want is set-buffer-file-coding-system, the default keybinding being 'C-x RET f'. I can highly recommend undecided-unix. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:39:13PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:36:40PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed: I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins you see outside offices. DD is vaguely useful sometimes. Just not when I'm editing text. I hate to say it, but I'm slowly becoming converted to windows cut paste. I like being able to highlight a block of text and hit ctrl-v to replace that with the contents of the clipboard. Presume you have Pending-delete-mode in Xemacs set up then I also have this in my .emacs (ctrl changed to alt, just to confuse me when moving platforms but not to confuse emacs or X). ;; windows emu (require 'pc-select) (pc-select-mode t) (global-set-key [(alt c)] copy-primary-selection) (global-set-key [(alt v)] yank) (global-set-key [(alt x)] copy-region-as-kill) (global-set-key [(alt left)] backward-word) (global-set-key [(alt right)] forward-word) (global-set-key [(alt up)] backward-paragraph) (global-set-key [(alt down)] forward-paragraph)
RE: odd -w effect
*nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh well. Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment.
Re: odd -w effect
From: "Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh well. Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment. Strangely enough, thats exactly what I do at home. With Exceed for doing X stuff. /Robert
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:18:17PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: Must remember to try IE under WINE. Don't bother. It doesn't work. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is nice. Any idea what body-part it is?
RE: odd -w effect
I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest way to produce it. so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in? -- Duncan Bates Developer Proxicom UK Tel: 020 7321 3812 Mobile: 07884 336 532 http://www.proxicom.com/
Re: odd -w effect
-Original Message- From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment. Strangely enough, thats exactly what I do at home. With Exceed for doing X stuff. If you've got a nice meaty box at home then run Linux with NT in vmware, you get a very nice system that way. You have a two machine subnet for clean network testing that can be firewalled off at the Linux host os, you can use procmail to check for vbs viri and then use outlook and IE for web browsing. Its how I used to do 95% of my work. Well until my motherboard started frying harddrives... Dean PS Running Linux in VMWare on NT works fine as well but its sick :) -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand. --- Anon
Re: odd -w effect
Original Message- From: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Must remember to try IE under WINE. Don't bother. It doesn't work. I've seen IE5 running under wine on Debian. The machine did have a 98 partition though so he might have been using the libraries from there, is that cheating? :) Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand. --- Anon
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: From: "Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh well. Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment. Strangely enough, thats exactly what I do at home. With Exceed for doing X stuff. I am using X-WIn32 right now. /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
Web site
Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Neil. -- Neil C. Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.binky.ourshack.org
Re: Web site
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:36:28PM +, Neil Ford wrote: I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? http://dave.told.us.to is correct though :-) -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is nice. Any idea what body-part it is?
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:23:57PM -, Bates, Duncan wrote: I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest way to produce it. so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in? docbook? markup / WYSINWYG rules dj
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment. I'm with you on that one. That's what I'm doing right now, and with PuTTY being such a great tiny-footprint client, the combo is lowest-common- denominator and extremely portable. I don't get involved with the e.g. Gnome vs KDE or whatever - because I don't have a 'desktop' as such. luvverly. dj '80x25' adams
RE: odd -w effect
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:23:57 -, "Bates, Duncan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest way to produce it. so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in? Oh, I'd probably do something based using the Template Toolkit :) But seriously, probably DocBook, or Latex. Dave...
Re: Web site
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me. Dave..
Re: Web site
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me. Dave.. The front page on Penderel (currently down I beleive) has a little calendar, list PO as the venue. Or was I getting cached pages? Neil. -- Neil C. Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.binky.ourshack.org
Re: Web site
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me. Dave.. I've been looking at london.pm.org which is still showing the tech meeting on the 18th on the front page. Is that the right url ? Simon. __ This document should only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed and is not intended to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of its contents. Accordingly, our company disclaim all responsibility and accept no liability (including in negligence) for the consequences for any person acting, or refraining from acting, on such information prior to the receipt by those persons of subsequent written confirmation. If you have received this E-mail message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone. Please also destroy and delete the message from your computer. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited.
Re: Web site
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:20:36 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me. The front page on Penderel (currently down I beleive) has a little calendar, list PO as the venue. Or was I getting cached pages? Ah. OK. You shouldn't trust anything on penderel as that was just a snapshot copy of the main site http://london.pm.org that I did as an experiment a while ago. The _real_ site had some major updates recently. Perhaps we could get something set up that mirrors london.pm.org to penderel? Jo? Alex? Dave...
Re: Web site
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:41:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps? Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me. I've been looking at london.pm.org which is still showing the tech meeting on the 18th on the front page. Is that the right url ? Yep. That's right. Everything else is not to be trusted. Dave...
Re: word processors
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:35:17PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I wonder if anyone has written a novel in Latex? That sounds like a challenge to me :-) You have to set it in Computer Modern as well though. .robin.
Re: word processors
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 05:11:25PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: Much as I love Computer Modern for technical work, using it for fiction would just be WRONG WRONG WRONG. In a good way :-) .robin.
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment. Aye aye. Windows UI is much nicer than linux's (right now) and linux doesn't have a decent browser which is a serious handicap. My mileage varies. Although you're right about the browser. Michael
Re: Dumb-assed question
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:17:45PM +, Robin Houston wrote: I suppose you were hoping for a simpler procedure, but this is the simplest I've found. Possibly IE doesn't have that problem. It has others, it'll s/\./_/g for all except the last. Exercise: Implement the "except the last" in a regex :-) Extra points for squeezing it into a single regex rather than a while / $' solution Paul
Re: Dumb-assed question
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:42:58PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: Exercise: Implement the "except the last" in a regex :-) Extra points for squeezing it into a single regex rather than a while / $' solution s/\.(?=.*\.)/_/g; .robin. -- Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?
JOB: desperately seeking symbian
a friend asked me to pass this on, it seems interesting. (symbian looking for 1 junior 1 senior perm perl bods) in a parallel world where i have cft, this has gone in the jobs database. um. -- The contact details are: Dave Jobling Manager, Tools and Processes Team System Documentation Symbian Switchboard: +44 (0)20 7563 2000 Desk: +44 (0)20 7563 2842 Mobile:+44 07747 065564 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Job title: 2x Build and Tools Software Engineer, reporting to me as team leader within the SysDoc group. (1 junior, 1 senior; both permanent.) Location: Central London (nearest tube station: Edgeware Road). Broad content of the role: The System Documentation Group is responsible for producing and maintaining documentation targetted at developers working with the Symbian software platform. The resulting Developer Library documentation is released as part of the Software Development Kits (SDKs) that are used by Symbian licensees, partners, third party developers and in-house software engineers. Within the System Documentation Group, the Tools and Processes Team is responsible for the development and maintenance of a tool chain to support the documentation production process. The technology areas supported by the team include XML and HTML, source control and configuration management, builds, testing, system and product integration and product release. Tools are typically engineered using Perl. Key tasks: * support, maintain and extend document building tool chain and processes * evolve the design and structure of the documentation component of Symbian SDKs * identify process improvements * create and maintain process documentation Essential qualifications: * experience of Perl development in a commercial environment (scaled according to role sought) * problem-solver, team player, adaptable and flexible, suited to working under pressure, attention to detail, good communicator Desired qualifications: * for the senior role, education to software engineering (or similar) degree; for the junior role, degree in an IT-related subject * knowledge of XML/HTML * knowledge of (not necessarily direct involvement in) C++ development in a commercial environment * knowledge of software development methodologies, software integration and testing
