Re: Technical Meeting Venues
Matthew Jones wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? For the love of God NO! Every time you're down in This I end up the next morning feeling fragile wearing nothing but a traffic cone and a policwoman's helmet ;)
.emacs
"MF" == Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MF 2) Got any nice bits of your .emacs file to share? My only foray into elisp was this chunk: / Start / ;; This revert function does not prompt. ;; Use a `permenant-local' buffer local variable to allow the function ;; to be switched on once per file; this will prevent accidental ;; damage to important files. (defvar first-call-to-revert t "By default we do not allow serious buffer reverting") (put 'first-call-to-revert 'permanent-local t) (make-variable-buffer-local 'first-call-to-revert) (defun abw-revert-buffer () "Serious, unprompting revert-buffer" (interactive) (progn (if first-call-to-revert (if (y-or-n-p "Enable serious revert buffer ? ") (progn (revert-buffer t t) (message "Buffer reverted") (setq first-call-to-revert nil))) (progn (revert-buffer t t) (message "Buffer reverted") -/ End /- You then bind 'abw-revert-buffer' toa handy key, and have an ask-first-time-only buffer reverting thing. I daresay there's on option for this now, but hey ! - Adam PS: If anyone out there is sick enough to use the folding editor extension to emacs, I have lots of hand crafted glue to make it play nicely with font-lock ...
Re: London.pm nearly have a new server (fwd)
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: OK Groovers, The DNS has been set up so now london.pm.org is penderel.state51.co.uk as outlined below. The only problem with this is that the http server doesnt appear to be running at the moment and there is no-one alive on #london.pm who has a login - could someone who can kick the server into life and check the content is up to date. /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
Re: London.pm nearly have a new server (fwd)
At Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:45:09 + (GMT), Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: OK Groovers, The DNS has been set up so now london.pm.org is penderel.state51.co.uk as outlined below. The only problem with this is that the http server doesnt appear to be running at the moment and there is no-one alive on #london.pm who has a login - could someone who can kick the server into life and check the content is up to date. Strictly speaking, that isn't the _only_ problem :) The version of the website is at least a month out of date and the last time I looked the webserver on Penderel was set up differently to the hfb one. In order to get it working, one of two things need to happen. Either the Apache configuration needs to change so that .cgi files in any directory are executed (this is how hfb worked) or I need write access to the cgi-bin directory. As a short term-fix, just getting the pages from hfb would work - I could fix up the SSI and CGI stuff later. Cheers, Dave... [who would help more if it wasn't for this fscking firewall]
Re: London.pm nearly have a new server (fwd)
At Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:57:56 + (GMT), Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:45:09 + (GMT), Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: OK Groovers, The DNS has been set up so now london.pm.org is penderel.state51.co.uk as outlined below. The only problem with this is that the http server doesnt appear to be running at the moment and there is no-one alive on #london.pm who has a login - could someone who can kick the server into life and check the content is up to date. Strictly speaking, that isn't the _only_ problem :) The version of the website is at least a month out of date and the last time I looked the webserver on Penderel was set up differently to the hfb one. In order to get it working, one of two things need to happen. Either the Apache configuration needs to change so that .cgi files in any directory are executed (this is how hfb worked) or I need write access to the cgi-bin directory. We'll get the first person to turn up in the channel who has root to fix this :) If you need the password for the login on hfb, just SMS me on 07973 553385 and I'll send it right back. Dave...
Re: .emacs
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:53:00PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: I like my .emacs file. It sets nice fonts and colours, and sets the editing mode and wrapping mode of choice ;-) I'm sure it can do more... 1) Where do I find handy things to put into my .emacs file on the web? 2) Got any nice bits of your .emacs file to share? Note that (shock, horror) I can't program lisp properly (duh, I program perl) so that I may sound stupid when it comes to these things. The real trick is trying to write something portable between emacs and xemacs. Anyway... ;; inhibit annoying messages (setq inhibit-startup-echo-area-message t) (setq inhibit-startup-message t) ;; set general defaults (setq tab-width 2) (setq indent-tabs-mode nil) (setq initial-major-mode 'text-mode) (setq default-major-mode 'text-mode) ;; add my libraries to load-path (setq load-path (append (list (expand-file-name "~michaels/etc/emacs")) load-path)) p4.el available from http://www.dsmit.com/p4/ is kinda nice if you're working with perforce. Michael
Re: .emacs
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:55:58AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:11PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: Robin said: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:53:00PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: 2) Got any nice bits of your .emacs file to share? Hmm, well this: (add-hook 'ange-ftp-process-startup-hook '(lambda () (ange-ftp-raw-send-cmd proc "passive on"))) enables ange-ftp mode to work from inside our firewall. Not very exciting unless you have the same problem... I can't get this to work. At least not with efs under xemacs. It just hangs after issuing the command. Unfortunately, my elisp debugging skills aren't up to sorting it out. :-( -Dom You'll be wanting ;; efs passive FTP mode as behind firewall (setq efs-use-passive-mode t) If you want to send some passwords in plaintext then ;) jp (who has trouble getting OpenSSH's scp to work)
Re: .emacs
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:55:58AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:11PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: Robin said: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:53:00PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: 2) Got any nice bits of your .emacs file to share? Hmm, well this: (add-hook 'ange-ftp-process-startup-hook '(lambda () (ange-ftp-raw-send-cmd proc "passive on"))) enables ange-ftp mode to work from inside our firewall. Not very exciting unless you have the same problem... I can't get this to work. At least not with efs under xemacs. It just hangs after issuing the command. Unfortunately, my elisp debugging skills aren't up to sorting it out. :-( That cause efs != angeftp. M-x apropos efs-.*-process would be my best guess for where to start tweaking. Either that or look for something like ftp-command, and change the value of that from ftp to pftp[0] [0] YMMV is you're not using the same ftp doohicky as my box does. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Leon Brocard wrote: Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Embperl is entirely Apache and web based, which is good for some things and bad for some things, like having the template wotsit work orthogonally to everything else. And entirely impossible for a lot of the things that I am using TT for like creating printed documents and e-mail messages Add to that, generating mails to Nominet and Network (ack!) Solutions, data mapping templates and Oracle table definitions, constraints and triggers. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire -
Re: London.pm nearly have a new server (fwd)
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:23:38AM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: OK Groovers, The DNS has been set up so now london.pm.org is penderel.state51.co.uk as outlined below. Does anyone have any feelings to delegating the DNS to servers under our own control at some juncture ? /me volunteers. I appear not to have fscked up djbdns on my box. I did, of course, test it with Someone Elses Domain :-) Haven't figured out how to do zone transfers yet, but I'm sure it can't be difficult. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
Re: .emacs
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:53:00PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: I like my .emacs file. It sets nice fonts and colours, and sets the editing mode and wrapping mode of choice ;-) I'm sure it can do more... 1) Where do I find handy things to put into my .emacs file on the web? 2) Got any nice bits of your .emacs file to share? Note that (shock, horror) I can't program lisp properly (duh, I program perl) so that I may sound stupid when it comes to these things. ;; working for me to get unix line endings on a win32 system (set-default-coding-systems 'undecided-unix) ;; I like auto-fill when I'm editing text. usually (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'auto-fill-mode) ;; show me the region selected right now (setq transient-mark-mode t) Michael
Damian's Latest
Damian's latest diary entry http://www.yetanother.org/damian/diary_latest.html talks about the work he's been doing on a module called Regex::Common. It's the usual Damian brain-stretching stuff - and this time he manages to find a good use for the $; variable which is _so_ deprecated that I can't even find it mentioned in the latest Camel. Dave...
Re: TT vs EmbPerl (was Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit])
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:33:30AM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On 30 Jan 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Add to that, generating mails to Nominet and Network (ack!) Solutions, Which is exactly what I was using it for yesterday :) Well except not Netowrk Solutions as we are using another registrar ... Interestingly .tv use gpg-signed messages sent over https... for all aspects of registration. They supply (slightly dodgy) perl modules as well. jp
Re: Damian's Latest
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 05:23:41AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: Damian's latest diary entry talks about the work he's been doing on a module called Regex::Common. I'm still waiting for him to do Parse::Perl. Goddamnit, I *need* that module! -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
Re: Damian's Latest
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 05:23:41AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
It's the usual Damian brain-stretching stuff - and this time he
manages to find a good use for the $; variable which is _so_
deprecated that I can't even find it mentioned in the latest Camel.
From p674
quote
Although we haven't deprecated this feature, you should instead consider
using "real" multidimension hashes now, such as $foo{$a}{$b}{$c} instead of
$foo{$a,$b,$c}. The fake ones may be easier to sort, however, and are much
more amenable to use as DBM files.
/quote
Richard - who also found a good use for it (Algorithm::MarkovChain)
--
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Meeting Reminder
Greg McCarroll wrote: The Anchor, near London Bridge, 8/1/2001, starting 6.30 ish ;-) (ask me for directions if you dont' know it) Top pub. Although I'm partial to Davy's Pot House under the bridge as well. Conveniently close to Cynthia's Cyberbar. Simon [who decided to give up drinking for Feburary and is now regretting it ...]
london.pm.org seems to be working
for at least some values of working todo - 1/ get mailman properly configured 2/ set up sudo for web stuff 3/ profit! jo
RE: Damian's Latest
Actually, it's Regexp::Common in case you were looking for it on CPAN. [vast regex snipped] U.. shouldn't one do this stuff with Lingua::Stem really?
Re: Bad Perl
At Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:11:36 +, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this in a bookshop on Saturday (Borders?) and I've been meaning to send it to you lot. There's this book - "Perl and CGI for the World Wide Web: Visual QuickStart Guide" by Elizabeth Castro (online at http://beta.peachpit.com/vqs/perlcgi/) which I saw so I picked it up and started flicking through it. You might be interested to read the reviews of this book at PerlMonks. http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=21576 Seems to bear out Simon's impressions. Dave...
Re: Meeting Reminder
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Simon Wistow wrote: Simon [who decided to give up drinking for Feburary and is now regretting it ...] voice type="Mr T"Crazy fool/voice /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
RE: London.pm nearly have a new server (fwd)
Title: RE: London.pm nearly have a new server (fwd) -Original Message- From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: London.pm nearly have a new server (fwd) On or about Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:23:38AM +, Jonathan Stowe typed: Does anyone have any feelings to delegating the DNS to servers under our own control at some juncture ? I'll be happy to provide secondary - box is in Mailbox's Fulham location. See also soa.granitecanyon.com. Roger I can provide another secondary, if needed... ns.kieser.net (possibly) or ns.3drevolution.net (definitely). Also not a bad hand at setting up DNS servers :-) Mike
.emacs
Mark Fowler writes: I like my .emacs file. It sets nice fonts and colours, and sets the editing mode and wrapping mode of choice ;-) I'm sure it can do more... 1) Where do I find handy things to put into my .emacs file on the web? 2) Got any nice bits of your .emacs file to share? Apart from the options menu settings, my .emacs file contains: (require 'gnuserv) (gnuserv-start) (load-library "my-startup") i.e. all my '.emacs' code is in another file and byte compiled for faster loading. Most of the code in that file is pretty specific to me (not to mention being a f**king mess), so I'm not going to post it. However, one of the more general functions that I have not yet seen elsewhere is: (defun bfr-mouse-call-last-kbd-macro (event) "*Execute last keyboard macro at point of mouse click" (interactive "e") (progn (mouse-set-point event) (call-last-kbd-macro))) (global-set-key [(control meta button1)] 'bfr-mouse-call-last-kbd-macro) This is for xemacs BTW. I seem to remember setting the point being different in GNU emacs IIRC. I have just started looking at http://tiny-tools.sourceforge.net. It seems to have a fair bit of interesting emacs ( Perl) related stuff and links. Indeed, one of the tips I saw there (can't remember exactly where though) was don't prefix your own functions with your initials as this make your code harder to share. Oh well. HTH -- Brian Raven When in doubt, parenthesize. At the very least it will let some poor schmuck bounce on the % key in vi. -- Larry Wall in the perl man page
Re: Bad Perl
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, you wrote: Saw this in a bookshop on Saturday (Borders?) and I've been meaning to send it to you lot. There's this book - "Perl and CGI for the World Wide Web: Visual QuickStart Guide" by Elizabeth Castro (online at http://beta.peachpit.com/vqs/perlcgi/) which I saw so I picked it up and started flicking through it. I got that some time ago when I first started doing a bit of web stuff .. and soon reallised it was pants .. i put a review on Amazon but I think they migh thave deleted it. *cough* MAP! *cough* CGI.pm! Parse_Form? no use CGI;, use strict;? Where are the 'my's. I only flicked through briefly but found references to Matt's Script Archive and non to *any* Templating system. yeah .. for the level and style of reader she was aiming at I think CGI.pm would have saved a lot of bother, although I would no longer reccomend it for 'proper' stuff it could be useful for people trying to build little stand alone scripts. but I think you have to look at it the context of the readership it was aimed at .. yes it uses what I would call 'poor programming style' and is way way way away from 'Good Perl' but it was aimed at non programmers and as such the idea of subroutines and lexically scoped variables is probably a bit hard for them. but the code does stink. I have to keep it in a plastic bag just to stop the smell from getting out. -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: London.pm nearly have a new server (fwd)
Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:23:38AM +, Jonathan Stowe typed: Does anyone have any feelings to delegating the DNS to servers under our own control at some juncture ? I'll be happy to provide secondary - box is in Mailbox's Fulham location. See also soa.granitecanyon.com. Granitecanyon? The boxes that are chronically down? Which resulted in me getting mail from the domain registry telling me to get a working nameserver up with thein week or they might yank the domain? Where noone seems to care about support. Granitecanyon -- where You Get What You Pay For. IMO, at least. Cheers, Philip (What use is a place where you can put anything you like in your zone files if the things are down half the time?)
Re: London.pm nearly have a new server (fwd)
On or about Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 02:11:41PM +0100, Philip Newton typed: Granitecanyon? The boxes that are chronically down? Which resulted in me getting mail from the domain registry telling me to get a working nameserver up with thein week or they might yank the domain? Where noone seems to care about support. I haven't had any problems with them, but I don't use them as primaries. Granitecanyon -- where You Get What You Pay For. IMO, at least. What you get is redundancy in the DNS. If they're down, so what? Roger
CGI.pm Question
Hi,
I know how to redirect using the GET method
print $q-redirect("$url?$query_string");
but how do I do it for POST?
TIA
Andy
"This sounds like a twelve-change-of-underwear trip."
Re: CGI.pm Question
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Andy Williams wrote:
Hi,
I know how to redirect using the GET method
print $q-redirect("$url?$query_string");
but how do I do it for POST?
You can't properly - I think there is a rant on :
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/www/
about this matter but I dont have the time to check the whole lot. The
best way to achieve the effect is to use LWP to submit the request and
then display the resulting output.
This might answer:
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/www/post-redirect.html
/J\
--
Jonathan Stowe |
http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one
http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
Re: Bad Perl
Simon Wistow [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: * *It's terrible. Look at this particular gem of code entitled "Modifying *all the members of an array" There is a second edition in the works right now so I would encourage you to make its flaws known though I think this is a peachpit press book, not AW as the amazon.com listing says. And speaking of bad books, who is this Martin Brown guy who has a new book every month these days, certainly he must have a ghostwriter. Also, be sure to queue up for 'Instant Perl Modules', water not included. e.
Re: CGI.pm Question
You can't properly - I think there is a rant on : http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/www/ about this matter but I dont have the time to check the whole lot. The best way to achieve the effect is to use LWP to submit the request and then display the resulting output. This might answer: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/www/post-redirect.html Thanks Jonathon. It appears that it'll only work if all my users have Lynx 2.8.3. (I can dream I suppose.) Just added another page to the mix that auto submits on load, and that seems to work. Andy
Migrating from 5.005 to 5.6
So, we've a pretty large system running on 5.005_03. We want to move to 5.6. We've been running several development machines on 5.6 without any noticeable problems, but it's impoosible to test by hand every possible script etc that could be run. Are there any known gotchas that we should be aware of before switching on our production machines? I can't find a list anywhere. All the deltas and what's news etc all just talk about new features, not any backwards problems... Thanks, Tony -- - Tony Bowden | Belfast, NI | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.tmtm.com | www.blackstar.co.uk every tool is a weapon - if you hold it right -
Re: Fwd: [uri@sysarch.com: free copy of data munging with perl]
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 07:59:29AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:03:19PM +, Dave Cross wrote: It's starting to sound like I@m the only bugger who _hasn't_ got a copy of my book yet :( I got a copy in the mail yesterday when I got home :-) the bloke who works in the kebab shop opposite also had one yesterday ;-) dave, do you think manning are trying to tell you something? ;-) FWIW, I got three of them... :-/ Mr. "here! take books from me!" (as far as publishers are concerned, anyway...) -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Pancakes is the better part of valor- Toothgnip
Re: Migrating from 5.005 to 5.6
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Tony Bowden wrote: So, we've a pretty large system running on 5.005_03. We want to move to 5.6. We've been running several development machines on 5.6 without any noticeable problems, but it's impoosible to test by hand every possible script etc that could be run. Are there any known gotchas that we should be aware of before switching on our production machines? All the ones that have got me are going in the other direction - from a development machine on 5.6.o back to the production one with 5.005 - thats where the pain starts :) -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
Re: Fwd: [uri@sysarch.com: free copy of data munging with perl]
At Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:32:49 -0500, "David H. Adler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 07:59:29AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:03:19PM +, Dave Cross wrote: It's starting to sound like I@m the only bugger who _hasn't_ got a copy of my book yet :( I got a copy in the mail yesterday when I got home :-) the bloke who works in the kebab shop opposite also had one yesterday ;-) dave, do you think manning are trying to tell you something? ;-) FWIW, I got three of them... :-/ OK. I'm working under the theory that my box of books is too big to fit thru the letter box - so they'll deleiver it when they think I'll be in - i.e. Saturday. Mr. "here! take books from me!" (as far as publishers are concerned, anyway...) Me too, generally. This seems to be the exception. Dave...
Re: london.pm.org seems to be working
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:57:58AM +, jo walsh wrote: for at least some values of working todo - 1/ get mailman properly configured 2/ set up sudo for web stuff 3/ profit! So *that's* what phase 2 is!!! dha o/~underwear gnomes, underwear gnomes...o/~ -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ ... nononono. And to use nonononono just to negate that is, uhm, confusing. Someone might think I'm stuttering. - Abigail, p5p
Re: Fwd: [uri@sysarch.com: free copy of data munging with perl]
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 11:41:20AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: At Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:32:49 -0500, "David H. Adler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. "here! take books from me!" (as far as publishers are concerned, anyway...) Me too, generally. This seems to be the exception. "Well, *he* certainly doesn't need to read it..." :-) -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ A picture is worth several hundred thousand words... in the right haiku - Damian Conway
London Community News 30/01/00
Welcome to the first post of the London Community News. The LCN is a fortnightly (Or so) e-mail that contains a brief summary of the London based open source community groups and their activities for the month ahead and any major open-source events. If you have any suggestions for the mail or know of a group that you'd like to get added to this please drop me a note at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The User Groups: --- London Perl Mongers Home Page: http://www.london.pm.org Contact Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are a group who are dedicated to the encouragement of all things Perl-like in London. Its a busy month this month for the London PMer's, in addition to the monthly meeting on the 1st of February (http://london.pm.org/WhatDo.shtml) with guests Mark Jason Dominus (Perl luminary) and Beginning Perl author Simon Cozens there is the bi-monthly technical meeting featuring Matt Sergeant of axkit fame (http://www.axkit.org/) on Thursday 22nd February and on the 26th of February Damian Conway, author of Object Orientated Perl and the slave of Perl mongers everywhere (http://yetanother.org/damian/) will be in London to say hi and scare people with his Quantum::Superpositions module. --- Lonix Home Page: http://www.lonix.org.uk/ Contact Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The aim of Lonix is quite straightforward although it comprises of many points. The overall aim is to unite many Linux individuals in and around London. Below is a list of aims, but you as a member may not agree to all of them. (Hopefully at least one!) Meet like minded individuals to share ideas and discuss opinions. To provide a Linux force in London to persuade the industry to opt for a more Linux friendly approach to their services and products. To assist users with problems, providing advice and physical help. Linux advocacy For details of the monthly meetings you can look here: http://www.lonix.org.uk/Meetings.html This months Lonix is to be held on the 1st of February. Details of the location have not yet been confirmed but can be found at http://www.lonix.org.uk/Meetings.html nearer the date. --- GLLUG Home Page: http://gllug.linux.co.uk/ Greater London Linux User Group's (GLLUG) purpose is to bring together London's Linux users so they can share experiences and expertise (or revel in their inexperience and quest for expertise), to chat about the state of the (Linux) world, that sort of thing. We try to arrange meets so that there is space for users to set up their equipment, so you are welcome to bring your kit along, either to go through the problems you are having or just to show off what you are up to. There are no formalities to attending a GLLUG meeting, no subscription or entry fees, you can just turn up on the day. We welcome and encourage new and inexperienced users, young and old. Due to the high turnout GLLUG meetings are less frequent than the other user groups, you can get notification of the next meeting either on the home page or through this mail :) --- SAGE-WISE Home Page: http://www.sage-wise.org/ Map: http://www.sage-wise.org/lecture/directions.html SAGE-WISE is the System Administrators Guild for Wales, Ireland, Scotland and England, hence the "-WISE" suffix. Our aim is to form a professional association for system administrators in the UK and Ireland. But what is a system administrator? Professional system administrators, however, often look after large numbers of computers and networks - they are the people who keep the systems running, repair faulty discs, install and debug new software, upgrade existing systems, and generally take care of the computing resources needed for their users to perform their tasks effectively. A shorter definition is "A system administrator is one who manages computers not solely for his or her own use". If you know the joys and frustrations of this then feel free to come and visit one of our meetings. This months SAGE-WISE meeting is on Tuesday 13th February and is held at the Eisai Lounge, University College London, LONDON WC1. (Directions and a map are available from the homepage.) The host of this months discussion is James Hobson (Server-Side J2EE developer and Linux guru) leading a BoF (informal discussion) entitled The Battle of the Scripting Languages a BoF (informal discussion) covering the various scripting languages available for web-page generation (jsp, asp, perl, etc.). Outside London Events: --- This month sees the Open Source Free Software Developers' Meeting (http://www.osdem.org) on February 3-4 in Brussels, Belgium. Among the speakers are Fydor, creator of Nmap (www.insecure.org), Renaud Deraison (Nessus), Richard Stallman (FSF), Werner Koch (GnuPG), Jeremy Allison (Samba), Philippe Biondi (LIDS and kernel security), Rasterman (Enlightenment), and Wichert Ackerman (Debian). A delegation may be leaving from London comprising of GLLUG and Lonix members so if your interested in
Re: London Community News 30/01/00
LCN much kudos to Dean for this , it is a fucking wonderful idea -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Fwd: [uri@sysarch.com: free copy of data munging with perl]
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:15:31PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: Yes. I've actually got a copy of this fine book lying in my bedroom right now. An actual book! Hardcopy! Not on the screen! Let's buy Dave a drink or two ;-) Yay - got mine too. Three cheers for Dave! Well done that man. dj
Re: Meeting Reminder
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether: Conveniently close to Cynthia's Cyberbar. No, please god, no! Can't we just try and forget this excuse for a bar?[1] Leon [1] Which may be handy in the "I need a weird bar which is bound to be empty, and, oh, by the way, how about a robotic barmaid too?" sense -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/ ... Don't try to outweird me, three-eyes!
