bbspot article

2001-02-09 Thread Robert Shiels

Student Suspended Over Suspected Use of PHP

http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/6/php_suspend.html

The last paragraph is amusing, and, surprisingly for me, nearly on-topic.

-- 
Robert




Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions

2001-02-09 Thread Neil Ford

Well it looks like I have my first serious customer and I need to 
find a home for a machine for them.

My first instinct is to put the box in Mailbox as it'll be fairly low 
usage but with the recent outage to london.rhizo I'm concerned what 
Mailbox's record is like.

I have an alternative location but they require a 1U server which is 
going to greatly increase the inital cost.

I know a number of people on here have boxes at Mailbox, so I'd be 
interested to hear people's thoughts. On the list or by private email 
is fine.

Thanks in advance.

Neil.
-- 
Neil C. Ford
Yet Another Computer Solutions Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions

2001-02-09 Thread David Cantrell

On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 03:04:10PM +, Neil Ford wrote:

 My first instinct is to put the box in Mailbox as it'll be fairly low 
 usage but with the recent outage to london.rhizo I'm concerned what 
 Mailbox's record is like.

That is the first major outage I've noticed.

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/

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Re: Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions

2001-02-09 Thread Chris Heathcote

on 9/2/01 4:23 pm, David Cantrell wrote:

 That's why I recommend Nildram...  They're
 expensive, but it's worth it.

Indeed. Real people to talk to. Real people to help out when things
inevitably go pear shaped. Real people to plug things in and unplug them.

c.
-- 
 every day, computers are making people easier to use

  http://www.unorthodoxstyles.com




London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-05

2001-02-09 Thread Leon Brocard

This is the third of hopefully many weekly summaries of the London
Perl Mongers mailing list. The list has grown so popular (a hundred
messages a day is not uncommon) that I think this is
necessary. Comments welcome. For the week starting 2001-02-05:

Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting
is a technical meeting on Thursday, February 22th when Matt Sergeant
will be talking about AxKit.

This year's yapc::Europe has now been announced, with all the regulars
giving talks no doubt:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02119.html
http://yapc.org/Europe/

Dave Cross attempted to sort out the great London.pm Mailing List
Confusion, and got sidetracked rather cleverly by Jonathan Stowe
("Yeah, can I have a pony ?") into an irc #perl obsession. By the way,
in addition to the mailing list there is also a London.pm IRC server
at london.rhizomatic.net, channel #london.pm (btw dodgy connectivity
recently):
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02014.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02028.html

Damian Conway is coming at the end of the month, and we may well be
hosting it in... the Conway Hall!
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02080.html
http://www.ethicalsoc.org.uk/conway/hall.htm

Should the general public be able to program? Jonathan Peterson
reckons (amongst others) that they should, and that "Perl for Dummies"
kind of books should be encouraged. Others disagreed, saying that bad
programmers tend not to realise how bad they are, which is bad and
dangerous, and that bad habits are hard to unlearn. A car and oil
metaphor got taken way too far. Books with errors got mentioned.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02025.html

Mark Fowler and Shevek talked about garbage collection, which is crazy
deep magic:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02072.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02077.html
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc/

An interesting thread happened describing interesting jobs people had
before entering the Perl world. Best ones so far include working in
Iceland in fish factories ("The Artic Ocean is way cool!") and offal
processing.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg01928.html

Some discussion about the location of this month's meeting (which was
fun) occured. It was basically quite noisy, expensive, and not very
central. People are looking at alternatives. The discussion meandered
into talk about Wong Kei, a Chinese with legendary bad service.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02011.html

On Thursday, a London.pm Heretic Meeting happened in a lovely pub with
a nice warm fire by the Thames. For the uninitiated, a Heretic Meeting
happens when the first thursday of the month is the 1st. Heretic
meetings thus happen on the 7th, and are organised (?) by Greg and not
Dave. This'll happen again next month...
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02074.html

A little discussion on Midgard lead onto a new Perl Application server
wotsit, currently being discussed on the Template-Toolkit list. It
also contains Yet Another Perl Object Persistence Framework.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02091.html
http://www.midgard-project.org/
http://openinteract.org/
http://openinteract.org/spops/

Getting rapidly back on topic, Mark Fowler discusses the poor/good
Buffy film. This thread evolved into why film trailers contain all the
jokes in the actual film, or sometimes even more:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02105.html

Simon Wistow is still looking for moose, and presents "Dada Dodo Does
Four Char Word Ouli Perl". #london.pm is also getting a bit of a crazy
place for Ouilipo stuff:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02118.html
http://www.twoshortplanks.com/simon/four/

And finally, we now know how famous Perl authors such as Dave Cross
spend their day:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg01982.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2001/01/perl_god.html

Leon
-- 
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/

... 3 out of 4 Americans make up 75% of the population



Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-05

2001-02-09 Thread Philip Newton

Leon Brocard wrote:
 On Thursday, a London.pm Heretic Meeting happened in a lovely
 pub with a nice warm fire by the Thames. For the uninitiated,
 a Heretic Meeting happens when the first thursday of the month
 is the 1st. Heretic meetings thus happen on the 7th, and are
  ^^^
8th. (For the summary in four weeks' time :-)

 organised (?) by Greg and not Dave. This'll happen again next
 month...

Cheers,
Philip



Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-05

2001-02-09 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Leon Brocard wrote:
  On Thursday, a London.pm Heretic Meeting happened in a lovely
  pub with a nice warm fire by the Thames. For the uninitiated,
  a Heretic Meeting happens when the first thursday of the month
  is the 1st. Heretic meetings thus happen on the 7th, and are
   ^^^
 8th. (For the summary in four weeks' time :-)
 

london.pm meetings happen on the day after the first wednesday
of the month - some misinformed people may have meetings on the
1st of the month occasionally, but what can i say? they are just
crazy!

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions

2001-02-09 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 04:23:36PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
 That's why I recommend Nildram.

I've been banging their drum since '98. Good folk, in it for the joy
rather than merciless customer accruement.

P