Re: Dedrat 7.0 and PGP
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 02:01:11PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, someone wrote:
I'm using 7.0, and hating it. I should never have upgraded.
I am beginning to wonder whether we should have gone that route on the
swerver .. bu still.. too late now.
What I'm really hating is the stuff that broke when I upgraded from 6.2.
Mainly X font stuff, and I rally can't be bothered to dig through the
gazillion different places that X puts stuff so I can fix it.
Hmm. Both my laptop and desktop are running 6.2 atm. I find that
whenever I do a helix-gnome update (or whatever they're calling it this
week) it breaks the fonts. The server works fine, it's just that the
/etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs file is knackered. Typing xfs from the command
line still works fine for me, so I'd check that first as it's probably the
same b0rken RPM they both install.
I'm running 6.2 with the following key additions: helix-gnome, perl 5.6,
new apache (with mod_perl), sudo, and the 2.4.2 kernel. I recently
installed my laptop from scratch and this took me about a day to install
(+ a day fscking around with partition magic and windows.) It Works For
Me(tm) but I'm sure there's a better way.
Later.
Mark.
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print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Matt's Scripts Projects
Seems like we've made a reasonable start on this project. We already have a few scripts written - anyone want to report progress on any of the others? What we need now is to start to impose some structure on the project. Here are a few ideas: * CVS Repository (on Penderel?) * Testing both our versions and the originals on as many platforms as possible. Ensuring that our scripts do the same thing as Matt's. * Licensing. Matt has a huge great license on all of his scripts. We should replace it with the standard "under the same tersm as Perl itself" statement. * Copyright. All the scripts (and the HTML pages) have Matt's copyright. We should change that to ours. * HTML. Most of the scripts have associated HTML pages. I've not looked at them yet, but judging by the HTML I've seen in the scripts I've looked at, Matt's HTML isn't much better than his Perl. I'd recommend changing all the HTML to XHTML. * Bundling. Need to build gzipped tarballs of our new versions (I guess this should be built on top of the CVS stuff). Matt makes pkzipped versions avaiable as well - so should we. * Web page. Need somewhere to point potential users at. Probably two versions - one for the developers and one for the users. This can be a subdirectory on london.pm.org. Anyone fancy taling any of that on? Dave...
Re: Matt's Scripts Projects
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
* Web page. Need somewhere to point potential users at. Probably two
versions - one for the developers and one for the users. This can be
a subdirectory on london.pm.org.
I don't mind doing this bit of it. I would quite like the idea of
creating a few web pages for someone other than myself or for work for a
bit, unless anyone's got any objections...
Later.
Mark.
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print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: Matt's Scripts Projects
It has occured to us we need a decent name for this. Discussion on IRC
has concluded that:
a) It shouldn't mention Matt in the title.
b) That is should have a name that appeals to newbies.
c) It should sound at least semi-professional[1].
But apart from that we've been useless
Later.
Mark.
[1] Okay, so I added this one myself, but I think it's a good idea.
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print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: Matt's Scripts Projects
At 12:40 19/03/2001 +, Mark Fowler wrote: It has occured to us we need a decent name for this. Discussion on IRC has concluded that: a) It shouldn't mention Matt in the title. So "Not the Matt Wright Archive" is out then ;-) b) That is should have a name that appeals to newbies. How about EasyScripts ? the domain name is available, anyway. c) It should sound at least semi-professional[1]. Can we make use of the PerlMonger connection and/or use the Programming Republic logo ? Simon.
Re: Matt's Scripts Projects
At Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:27:57 + (GMT), jo walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * CVS Repository (on Penderel?) i can sort this, perhaps with veeghelp. for leon and marcel's aspect oriented programming project we started a /home/projects directory, we could put the not-matt stuff in there and CVS all of it, and make a dev group as well as the www group we are using now would we want public access to part or all of the cvs repository? Sounds like a good plan to me. No strong opinions here about public access to CVS. Anyone else? Dave...
Re: Matt's Scripts Projects
At 13:18 19/03/2001 +, Mark Fowler wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote: b) That is should have a name that appeals to newbies. How about EasyScripts ? the domain name is available, anyway. Not very perl, but I like it. Something similar though. EasyPerlScripts or even EZPerlScripts (for the American audience :) ? c) It should sound at least semi-professional[1]. Can we make use of the PerlMonger connection and/or use the Programming Republic logo ? Yes, IMHO, though IANAL. http://www.pm.org/faq.shtml http://republic.perl.com/logo.html The perl mongers logo is a little on the big size (and we're not allowed to resize it.) Maybe a page that says "Who did this ?" "Why did we do it ?" and fit the logo in there ? Perhaps we should try and get the project endorsed in some way so that we can say "The Perl Mongers bring you Easy Perl Scripts" ? But now I'm descending into Marketing so I'll shut up ! S.
RE: Matt's Scripts Projects
At 13:18 19/03/2001 +, Mark Fowler wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote: b) That is should have a name that appeals to newbies. How about EasyScripts ? the domain name is available, anyway. Not very perl, but I like it. Something similar though. EasyPerlScripts or even EZPerlScripts (for the American audience :) ? My own two-penn'orth would be that it's better without the 'perl'. It's easier to say, easier to type, and to be honest, the target audience for Matt's archive don't give a monkeys what language the script is written in. They're told they want "a guestbook script", they go get "a guestbook script." Perl can be emphasised in the text of the page, and brought to the fore when you come to optimise the page to be found in search engines, etc etc. It's also more generic, which means you can legitimately 'funnel in' websurfers who are looking for PHP scripts, and then brainwash^Weducate them as to why they don't want that shit, they want *this* shit. -- Simon Batistoni userfrenzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 7209 4117
Re: Matt's Scripts Projects
From: "Simon Wilcox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 March 2001 13:34 Subject: Re: Matt's Scripts Projects At 13:18 19/03/2001 +, Mark Fowler wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote: b) That is should have a name that appeals to newbies. How about EasyScripts ? the domain name is available, anyway. Not very perl, but I like it. Something similar though. EasyPerlScripts or even EZPerlScripts (for the American audience :) ? EZPS, pronounced Easy Peas :-) /Robert
Re: Matt's Scripts Projects
Chris Devers wrote: Probably, as is "The Matt's Wrong Archive", which is probably far too negative obvious anyway... ;) But if Matt Sergeant put it up ...
Re: Matt's Scripts Projects
At 14:59 19/03/2001 +, Simon Wistow wrote: Chris Devers wrote: Probably, as is "The Matt's Wrong Archive", which is probably far too negative obvious anyway... ;) But if Matt Sergeant put it up ... ... it would all be in XML ;-)
xemacs / cperl question
Anyone know how to stop xemacs cperl-mode to stop knackering it's
auto-tab indentation after you confuse it with a line like
my $dbh = ${$self-{params}-{dbh}};
(doesn't seem to like the curly braces).
jp
Re: xemacs / cperl question
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 06:23:27PM +, James Powell wrote:
Anyone know how to stop xemacs cperl-mode to stop knackering it's
auto-tab indentation after you confuse it with a line like
my $dbh = ${$self-{params}-{dbh}};
(doesn't seem to like the curly braces).
my $dbh = $ {$self-{params}-{dbh}} I think is the only way to do it --
it seems to think that the variable is '${' thus the terminating bracket
clobbers its count.
--james.
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