Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
As usual I'll aim at having four or five lightning talks and two or three
longer talks.
I could do a lightening talk on playing around with skinning stuff with
Template Toolkit's brand spanking new VIEW directive. This would be very
quick as we've seen Andy do this kind of thing before in the pre-release
version. I'd be skinning XML again in my example, but this time I'd be
using XML::XPath...
I'll also be able to give a quick status update on the website for NMS
(probably at the same time as I'll be using it as my example)
Later.
Mark.
(Who thinks this is almost a show 'n' tell situation)
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: Perl on HPUX
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:54:54PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: http://cpan.valueclick.com/ports/#hpux The http://hpux.connect.org.uk/ site looks like a good resource if a little behind. http://lists.perl.org/showlist.cgi?name=perl-hpux could also use some life :) Not another mailing list... You can't make me! I'm only moving some Linux scripts across to HPUX so i doubt I'd be much use on the list. The error threw me since i'm too new to this to know Perl 4. Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
RE: Installing Perl/Tk on Win32
From: Barbie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quote Installing CPAN modules requires that you have Microsoft DevStudio or nmake.exe installed. If you are installing modules that contain xs files, then you need DevStudio, otherwise you only need nmake.exe. You can download nmake from http://download.microsoft.com/download/vc15/Patch/1.52/W95/EN-US/Nmake15.exe . Run the self-extracting exe and copy nmake.exeto the perl\bin directory. /quote Thanks for the tip. I tried this before bothering the list with my query (which was itself rendered redundant with the helpful suggestion of ActiveState's ppm's). I didn't put the MS nmake in the perl\bin dir (this doesn't strike me as significant). When I ran it it chuntered away happily on the Tk makefile for a while, and then stopped, looking for a program called 'cl' - presumably a c linker. There are 25 xs files in the Tk distribution, so I guess this is where that approach went wrong. Thanks again all, Andrew.
Re: Wavelan
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, you wrote: http://www.expansys.com/category.asp?cat=WIREL claim delivery 3 days, but whether they are what you want or how their prices compare I have no idea. (Cheap efficient when I bought my Psion netBook some time ago.) I'll phone em in the morning ... 'Hello there .. have you got any .. blah' ..'let me just check ... no .. we'd have to get them from our suppliers ..' 'OK .. how long will that take?' 'it depends if they have any in stock themselves ...' 'OK have they got any in stock then' 'I don;t know sir, I'd have to ask my colleague' pause 'err are you going to ask your colleague then?' 'he might not know either sir' click b -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)
* at 11/04 08:28 +0100 Mark Fowler said: On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: snip I'll also be able to give a quick status update on the website for NMS (probably at the same time as I'll be using it as my example) what is the status of the NMS thing. i'm liable to have some spare time over the weekend so if there's anything that needs doing on this i could have a bash. struan
Re: OT: parsing xml
Mike Jarvis sent the following bits through the ether: Has anybody dealt with the data exchange xml standard called BMEcat? I've got to hack a parser together quickly and I was hoping to nick somebody else's code. It appears that no-one has answered this. In general, I find XML::Simple very useful (and simple!) for dealing with XML data structures. If you need anything more fancy, look into XML::XPath. Always remember to cache aggressively whenever you use XML. HTH, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... All in a day's work for..."Confuse-a-Cat"!
Re: Tie::Scalar::Decay ...
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:41:51PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Didn't Tony from Blackstar do this already? Yes, but a) he never released it on CPAN At the time I was under a contract which didn't let me do this... I should really upload some stuff now ... Tony -- -- Tony Bowden | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.tmtm.com/ epiphany just went to ground, 3 wise men just can't be found -- PGP signature
London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09
This is the twelth of hopefully many weekly summaries of the London Perl Mongers mailing list. For the week starting 2001-04-09: Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting is a technical meeting and is on Thursday April 19th at State 51: http://london.pm.org/ Neil Ford obviously gets too much mail as he asked about scripts to help with breaking up mailbox files. Jonathan Stowe mentioned Graham Barr's mailtools, and Simon Cozens plugged his excellent Mail::Audit: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04055.html http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=MailTools http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Mail-Audit Andy Williams confused us all with traceroute, until we read the manpage that is. Dominic Mitchell recommended "TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols", which is excellent indeed: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04094.html http://www.kohala.com/start/tcpipiv1.html Amongst a HTML- and uuencoded-email fest, Dominic Mitchell and Merijn Broeren gave mutt and mailcap tips for viewing HTML emails: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg03987.html http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04140.html http://www.mutt.org/ The social meeting last week was a lot of fun, if a little crazy. However, we really need to start organising the meetings (hey, even Lonix is more organised!), as it was too loud and crowded: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04134.html http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04145.html Robert Shields asked about copyright and licenses for his Perl code, which launched into the typical "GPL evil", "BSD good", "but GPL gives back" , "write your own license", "GPL is unenforcable" thread. Generally Perl code is distributed under the sames terms as Perl itself, that is dual GPL and AL: http://www.opensource.org/ http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html http://language.perl.com/misc/Artistic.html Aaron Trevena announced a piece of Perl which creates UML class diagrams showing relationshiops, methods, attributes, etc for a bunch of scripts/modules so that you can edit them with dia: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04227.html http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/dia.shtml Dean Wilson asked about Perl on HPUX and the error: 'syntax error in file p2.pl at line 2, next 2 tokens "use strict"'. This is a clear case of Perl 4 being installed when you expected Perl 5. There's been some talk on how Perl 6 might avoid this mess: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04231.html Dave Cantrell announced that he had uploaded Tie::Scalar::Decay to CPAN, which simulates radioactive decay with a fairly arbitrary half-life of five seconds. Anyone want some PDP-11s? http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Tie-Scalar-Decay http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04250.html http://www.telnet.hu/hamster/pdp-11/ And finally, Simon Cozens reckons Italy is very far for antipasti, Paul Makepeace finds truth in Duke Nukem, and Jonathan Stowe brings some poetry to the list: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04131.html http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04171.html http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04033.html Note that you can now subscribe just to this summary, if you don't want the hassle of tons of london-list mail but still want to keep up: http://www.astray.com/mailman/listinfo/london-list-summary I'm away snowboarding next week (well, okay, hurting myself trying out all those moves I pulled off in SSX) so Simon Wistow will take over the summary and hopefully do another wonderful job ;-), Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... Squeeze
Re: Tie::Scalar::Decay ...
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:00:54PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Cool Uses For Technology #497: Hmm, triggered on first access would be interesting too. That way you could put an object wrapper around the sinking platforms in Manic Miner. but, to be *really* evil ... Use Tie::Array::blah to implement functions which take more than one parameter. Overload the stringify operator to make it easy to get the result. You could even define tied arrays which do matrix things. There wouldn't be much point to this. I'm wittering, so shall stop now. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
RE: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09
From: Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:00 PM The social meeting last week was a lot of fun, if a little crazy. However, we really need to start organising the meetings (hey, even Lonix is more organised!), as it was too loud and crowded: Not sure I like the idea of 'organised' social meetings. Sounds a bit too 'SPUG' to me. However, I'm quite happy to listen to any alternative opinions. Note that you can now subscribe just to this summary, if you don't want the hassle of tons of london-list mail but still want to keep up: http://www.astray.com/mailman/listinfo/london-list-summary Have you submitted this to the Perl mailing lists list at http://lists.perl.org? Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 01:00:16PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: crazy. However, we really need to start organising the meetings (hey, even Lonix is more organised!), as it was too loud and crowded: You have a weird idea of organized ;) We tried to get 60 people into 30 places... Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
Re: Perl on HPUX
Dean [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: * *The http://hpux.connect.org.uk/ site looks like a good resource if a little *behind. What part of HP-UX didn't scream 'behind' :) *Not another mailing list... You can't make me! I'm only moving some Linux *scripts across to HPUX so i doubt I'd be much use on the list. The error *threw me since i'm too new to this to know Perl 4. Sadly, the list isn't terribly active but, depending on the platform, vendor specific lists can be very useful in such situations. e.
Linux::Svgalib
A couple of people have made interested noises about this - I have uploaded an alpha version to CPAN (dont be misled by the version number) if you want to have alook its at : http://cpan.valueclick.com/modules/by-authors/id/J/JS/JSTOWE/Linux-Svgalib-1.2.t ar.gz I wouldnt suggest running on your most popular server though ... /J\
RE: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09
From: Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:39 PM dcross - David Cross sent the following bits through the ether: Not sure I like the idea of 'organised' social meetings. Sounds a bit too 'SPUG' to me. However, I'm quite happy to listen to any alternative opinions. Well, we *could* have a formal agenda for the social meeting, starting off my voting in the new social meeting committee, and voting for how many beers we will drink in the first hour (and what muffins to supply)... BUT: :) We have to book a room. Not doing so is silly, considering 30 or so people turned up and we only had one table. I blame mstevens ;-) Where will the next social be? Book the room now! Booking a room is a good idea, but whenever we've tried this before pubs have been loathe to give space to such a small group. David Cantrell once wasted most of an afternoon calling pubs. If anyone has any suggestions for venues that would allow us to book a room, please let us know. If anyone wants to volunteer to try to organise this for next month then I'm sure we'll all be very grateful. Blaming mstevens is a good idea too. He's gone very quiet. I reckon he's embarassed :) Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 01:17:37PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:00 PM The social meeting last week was a lot of fun, if a little crazy. However, we really need to start organising the meetings (hey, even Lonix is more organised!), as it was too loud and crowded: Not sure I like the idea of 'organised' social meetings. Sounds a bit too 'SPUG' to me. However, I'm quite happy to listen to any alternative opinions. SPUG don't have organised social meetings, every meeting is a technical meeting. I think what Leon was refering to, was getting organised of finding a good reliable venue. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Re: NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)
4) Install Apache::Template, Bundle-XML, Template Toolkit 2.02 on penderel I think this has already been mostly done, but I could be wrong. after much grappling with CPAN shell trying to upgrade us to 5.6.1, this is all done now, though a couple of newer versions of XML modules - not the crucial ones - failed tests, i didn't want to force. let me know if there's anything you want or need missing, jo
TPJ Reborn
Excellent news from Jon Orwant at http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/11/1533244 Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: Perl on HPUX
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 08:58:55AM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: What part of HP-UX didn't scream 'behind' :) The price tag ;) Sadly, the list isn't terribly active but, depending on the platform, vendor specific lists can be very useful in such situations. But do they have Buffy discussions ? Or Grep ;) Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
Re: TPJ Reborn
* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Paul Mison sent the following bits through the ether: If you're going to do IRC style karma-ing, at least make sure there's a bot present ... and before someone magically has enough time to link dipsy to email, no email bots please! ;-) I guess i'll unsub then -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: TPJ Reborn
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:28:38PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Paul Mison sent the following bits through the ether: If you're going to do IRC style karma-ing, at least make sure there's a bot present ... and before someone magically has enough time to link dipsy to email, no email bots please! ;-) I guess i'll unsub then further evidence (scribble scribble) PGP signature
stocks
Does anyone use any online brokers that they would recommend? I need a broker service which is quick and hassle free to set up. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: TPJ Reborn
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:10:12PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Paul Mison sent the following bits through the ether: If you're going to do IRC style karma-ing, at least make sure there's a bot present ... and before someone magically has enough time to link dipsy to email, no email bots please! ;-) Sorry, ol bean, I'm already piping this list through two bots (my archiver and my URL-hunter). They don't say anything in public though. Yet. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
Re: TPJ Reborn
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:44:57PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Sorry, ol bean, I'm already piping this list through two bots (my archiver and my URL-hunter). They don't say anything in public though. Yet. You could make them auto-send a rude message on encountering text/html... -Dom
Re: TPJ Reborn
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:10:12PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Paul Mison sent the following bits through the ether: If you're going to do IRC style karma-ing, at least make sure there's a bot present ... and before someone magically has enough time to link dipsy to email, no email bots please! ;-) Sorry, ol bean, I'm already piping this list through two bots (my archiver and my URL-hunter). They don't say anything in public though. Yet. point of order - they are filters, not bots -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: TPJ Reborn
* at 11/04 17:50 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:10:12PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Paul Mison sent the following bits through the ether: If you're going to do IRC style karma-ing, at least make sure there's a bot present ... and before someone magically has enough time to link dipsy to email, no email bots please! ;-) Sorry, ol bean, I'm already piping this list through two bots (my archiver and my URL-hunter). They don't say anything in public though. Yet. point of order - they are filters, not bots point of information: isn't that a point of information? struan
Re: stocks
I use stocktrade.co.uk who are OK, it must have been easy to set up, as I managed it. I've known other people to use etrade. Do you want to trade on foreign markets? If you do then you should check that this is possible with whoever you go with. Got any good tips :) -- Robert - Original Message - From: "Greg McCarroll" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "London.pm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 April 2001 17:42 Subject: stocks Does anyone use any online brokers that they would recommend? I need a broker service which is quick and hassle free to set up. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: TPJ Reborn
From: "Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] point of order - they are filters, not bots Isn't that two points? And is a line the shortest distance between them? Point of yet further pedantry: I think you mean a directed line segment that intersects two points... Andrew.
