Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:26:55PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: Damian Conway [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: Hecate was the goddess of the night, of magic, and travel at night. She was a cousin of Zeus, and dwelt quietly in the Underworld.

RE: JOB: Anyone interested

2001-04-18 Thread Jonathan Peterson
FYI this particular role wasn't available; they tried to put me up for some other things but didn't even get as far as interviews. Roger (now working elsewhere) Curious. Identical to my experiences with them. Jon (soon to be working elsewhere)

RE: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Jonathan Peterson
I note that the Linux distribution of Kodomo contained complete distributions of Mozilla, Perl and Python. /me cancels the download, suggests Activestate acquire some Clue Isn't that a bit harsh? If the Linux version is a Beta / Alpha type deal it seems fair enough they want people to

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 07:12:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our latest and greatest operating system which we couldn't be arsed to complete You mean, "...if you choose to install an OS over the one we're actually supporting for those

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:52:58AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: actually supporting for those operations"? No, I mean "unless you're using our latest and greatest operating system which, despite us only supporting a limited number of systems to make it This is specious. The ad is running

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:59:51AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Who said "release early, release often". Apple are doing the right thing, IMO. Probably Eric Raymond. Which reminds me, there used to be a comment in the code for an authentication server at Demon: /* fork early, fork often

Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
Anyone hackers here sent broadcast packets? I think this is how you do it: #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use Socket; my $dst = inet_aton("172.30.255.255"); socket(SOCKET, PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, getprotobyname("udp")) or die "socket: $!"; setsockopt(SOCKET, SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST,

What did I miss?

2001-04-18 Thread Lucy McWilliam
'lo again. Had to unsubscribe over Easter due to an ever-inflating inbox and an institutionally enforced disk quota. Just to keep this on topic, has anyone noticed much traffic on the perl-cert list or is my subscription just funted? L. "I wear the cheese. The cheese does not wear me."

RE: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, you wrote: I note that the Linux distribution of Kodomo contained complete distributions of Mozilla, Perl and Python. /me cancels the download, suggests Activestate acquire some Clue Isn't that a bit harsh? If the Linux version is a Beta / Alpha type deal it

Re: What did I miss?

2001-04-18 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:28:58AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: has anyone noticed much traffic on the perl-cert list or is my subscription just funted? No. Greg was going to tell us Ze Master Plan. I think it involves alcohol. -- The best book on programming for the layman is "Alice in

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:12:30AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: if it doesn't work on a standard Perl install its dead in the water IMHO FWIW, I agree. Not only that, if it conflicts with existing distribution's package management that'd be a nightmare. Paul

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dean
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:12:30AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: umm .. for a windows install where Activestate Perl seems to be the standard then yes, its fair enough. For a *nix tool it MUST work with a standard Perl install or it is of zero use (to me) .. I do not have any intention of

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:59:51AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:52:58AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: No, I mean "unless you're using our latest and greatest operating system which, despite us only supporting a limited number of systems to make it This is

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:25:09AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Anyone hackers here sent broadcast packets? I think this is how you do it: #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use Socket; my $dst = inet_aton("172.30.255.255"); socket(SOCKET, PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, getprotobyname("udp"))

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone hackers here sent broadcast packets? I think this is how you do it: Any ideas? Well covered on page 590 of Stein's book... ;-) He uses IO::Socket BTW... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:44:38AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: The iMac is one of the platforms supported by OS X. One has to assume anyone installing an OS over a different is intelligent enough to read the caveats. In fact, CD burning doesn't work under OS X on *any* machine and isn't

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:49:20AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: If you have a complete /usr/src installed, look in there for examples of how it's done in C (it looks like you have a BSD machine - so it's quite likely /usr/src is populated). The weird thing is this is even happening with

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:02:29AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:49:20AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: If you have a complete /usr/src installed, look in there for examples of how it's done in C (it looks like you have a BSD machine - so it's quite likely

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:11:45PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You're probably going to have to grep through the kernel source to see why it's being returned in that case. And I have a sneaky suspicion that the networking stuff is quite changed from the "normal" BSDs... I've been using

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:26:56AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:11:45PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You're probably going to have to grep through the kernel source to see why it's being returned in that case. And I have a sneaky suspicion that the networking

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:41:49PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: According to the book in front of me (UNP2v1, P472): "Another question is: what does a multi-homed host do when the application sends a UDP datagram to 255.255.255.255? Some systems send a single broadcast on the

CPAN search from mozilla address bar

2001-04-18 Thread Struan Donald
no idea if anyone will find this useful but: if you use mozilla (on linux/*nix at least) stick this: search name="CPAN" description="CPAN Search" method="GET" action="http://search.cpan.org/search" input name="mode" value="module" input name="query" user /search in a file called

Re: CPAN search from mozilla address bar

2001-04-18 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:35:25PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: no idea if anyone will find this useful but: if you use mozilla (on linux/*nix at least) stick this: To do something similar for Netscape, look at http://bofh.concordia.ca/ns/ns-cli.txt (Netscape can call out to a CGI program to

Re: CPAN search from mozilla address bar

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:35:25PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: no idea if anyone will find this useful but: if you use mozilla (on linux/*nix at least) stick this: search name="CPAN" description="CPAN Search" method="GET" action="http://search.cpan.org/search" input

Tech mtg?

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Houston
Do we yet know if there's going to be a data projector for the tech meeting? If not, will there be _any_ kind of mechanism for showing things to people? (OHP, blackboard, whatever) .robin.

Re: Tech mtg?

2001-04-18 Thread Richard Clamp
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:24:34PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: Do we yet know if there's going to be a data projector for the tech meeting? Yes, the Fords kindly dontated the use of theirs again, which I picked up from them on Friday. Now all that remains is me remebering to bring it

RE: Tech mtg?

2001-04-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:25 PM Do we yet know if there's going to be a data projector for the tech meeting? If not, will there be _any_ kind of mechanism for showing things to people? (OHP, blackboard, whatever) Richard had volunteered to go and

Re: Tech mtg?

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:30:01PM +0100, Richard Clamp wrote: Now all that remains is me remebering to bring it tomorrow. Cool :-) Now I've got no excuse for not finishing my slides... :/ .robin. -- Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!

Re: Mentioned in Dispatches

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:38:26PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Maybe Robin would care to comment on this :) http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/04/p5pdigest/THISWEEK-20010408.html#Robin_Hous ton_Left_On_ALL_WEEK I don't have a lot of time on my hands; I work quickly ;-) I also have a

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, you wrote: IMHO the Linux port is an afterthought, most of the effort seems to have been focused on the Windows side, the integration with Visual Studio springs to mind. umm ... since Linux accounts (at a guess) for 75% of Perl usauge, thats quite an 'afterthought'. My

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/04 11:58 +0100 Robin Szemeti said: On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, you wrote: IMHO the Linux port is an afterthought, most of the effort seems to have been focused on the Windows side, the integration with Visual Studio springs to mind. umm ... since Linux accounts (at a guess) for 75%

RE: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Jonathan Peterson
umm ... since Linux accounts (at a guess) for 75% of Perl usauge, thats quite an 'afterthought'. My guess is they see ActiveState Perl as taking over the world and these tools are simply there to help get it to that position. I think it's more than Windows accounts for 75% of the IDE

RE: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Mison
On 18/04/2001 at 15:58 +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I mean how the hell do you install CPAN packges on EPOC perl or Mac Perl or any other platform that doesn't smell of Unix? On MacPerl, non-XS modules install fine using Chris Nandor's CPAN-mac. XS modules are, erm, tricky, and usually you

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:58:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Anyway, I thought all this stuff about non-standard kinds of Win32 Perl was sorted out years ago. Activestate Perl is the same as anyone else's Perl, shurely? It's more because I have a nicely working perl installation right

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dean
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:58:00AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: umm ... since Linux accounts (at a guess) for 75% of Perl usauge, thats quite an 'afterthought'. My guess is they see ActiveState Perl as taking over the world and these tools are simply there to help get it to that position. And

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Barbie
From: "Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, I thought all this stuff about non-standard kinds of Win32 Perl was sorted out years ago. Activestate Perl is the same as anyone else's Perl, shurely? All the brain ache surrounding PPM and CPAN modules and XS is not strictly perl related

Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Mike Jarvis
CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Of course he'll probably be attacked by vampires before that can actually happen. -- mike

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:26:42PM +0100, Dean wrote: I've been using this for C coding recently and its not too bad. It has a couple of nice tricks though like clicking on the compile errors and being taken to the line. Emacs has been able to do this for probably 10 years or more. I think

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dean
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:58:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I think it's more than Windows accounts for 75% of the IDE market, rather than the Perl market... Anyway, I thought all this stuff about non-standard kinds of Win32 Perl was sorted out years ago. Activestate Perl is the same

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dean
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:17:00PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: On MacPerl, non-XS modules install fine using Chris Nandor's CPAN-mac. XS modules are, erm, tricky, and usually you wait for someone who can deal with MPW and who needs them to do the port, although it is possible to do it if you

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Simon Wistow
Dean wrote: I've been using [Kdevelop] for C coding recently and its not too bad. It has a couple of nice tricks though like clicking on the compile errors and being taken to the line. Ultraedit does this. It's great and I love it. And it works under Wine.

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Dean
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:29:43AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Of course he'll probably be attacked by vampires before that can actually happen. Or Greg ;) Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand ---

Win32 perl (was: Komodo)

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:34:17PM +0100, Dean wrote: Your right, the perls are the same ActiveState are just a lot more aware of what the OS can do and lacks the ability to do and tries to compensate for them. If you have a stocked Windows box with nmake, VC++ and a bit of time you can get

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Mison
On 18/04/2001 at 16:36 +0100, Dean wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:17:00PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: On MacPerl, non-XS modules install fine using Chris Nandor's CPAN-mac. XS modules are, erm, tricky, and usually you wait for someone who can deal with MPW and who needs them to do the port,

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:36:08PM +0100, Dean wrote: Whats MPW? Macintosh Programmers' Workshop. Delicious... Does OS X come with GNU tools like GCC and make then? Yes (on the optional developers CD) .robin. -- Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?

RE: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:30 PM CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Why would that bother us? Remember, we're all Willow fans here. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dean
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:34:49PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Emacs has been able to do this for probably 10 years or more. I think even vim can do it now, too. Never noticed that! I normally edit my code in emacs and do the compiling on the command line in another term, never got too

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:47:57PM +0100, Dean wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:34:49PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Emacs has been able to do this for probably 10 years or more. I think even vim can do it now, too. Never noticed that! I normally edit my code in emacs and do the

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:55:58PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: Dean (Cordelia fan) heresy is all very well and good but surely there are limits? Hmm. I know someone who quite fancies Anya. Martin $willow++;

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Philip Newton
Barbie wrote: The good thing about PPM is that it does all the installation for you. the bad thing is that it doesn't run any tests. Then again seeing as they've done the job of porting the package you'd hope it was tested at their end. At least that's what _I'm_ hoping. Yes. The PPM used

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread AEF
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Martin Ling wrote: Hmm. I know someone who quite fancies Anya. Mmm. Anya. Tony

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Philip Newton
Mike Jarvis wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Who's he? Is he that Wesley bloke that I haven't seen yet? (Note to self: must get around to watching all those Buffy episodes I have on CD.) Cheers, Philip PS: $willow++; -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions

RE: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 5:39 PM Mike Jarvis wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Who's he? Is he that Wesley bloke that I haven't seen yet? Nah. He's a nobody who's been dating SMG for a while. Apparently they're going to

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:43:20PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Alexis Denisof (who plays Wesley) is going out with Alyson Hannigan (Willow). For some reason, this is made even worse by the automatic word association of "Wesley" and "Crusher". Excuse me whilst I puke now. -Dom

RE: Tech mtg?

2001-04-18 Thread jo walsh
Could someone at State51, please put something useful up on the web page - or post directions to the list - or do _something_ that will make me look a little less disorganised than I really am! state51, 8-10 rhoda street, off brick lane just past junction with bethnal green road:

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/04 17:47 +0100 Dominic Mitchell said: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:43:20PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Alexis Denisof (who plays Wesley) is going out with Alyson Hannigan (Willow). For some reason, this is made even worse by the automatic word association of "Wesley" and

RE: Tech mtg?

2001-04-18 Thread jo walsh
this all gives me a creeping sense of deja type yeah, i've just looked and realised it says almost exactly the same thing on the website, except in more detail: http://london.pm.org/WhatDo.shtml oh well, i made a nice page for us: http://london.pm.org/places/state51.html ho hum, jo

RE: Tech mtg?

2001-04-18 Thread Ian Brayshaw
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=533817Y=182479A=YZ=1 Thanks Jo. Ian _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:58:00AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: umm ... since Linux accounts (at a guess) for 75% of Perl usauge, thats quite an 'afterthought'. My guess is they see ActiveState Perl as taking over the world and these tools are simply there to

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Chris Benson
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:25:09AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Anyone hackers here sent broadcast packets? I think this is how you do it: #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use Socket; my $dst = inet_aton("172.30.255.255"); socket(SOCKET, PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, getprotobyname("udp"))

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm replying! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:30:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm replying! LOL at Greg's post. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
*grins* * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Remember the Liz Castro BBS that I was talking about a few weeks ago. Simon mentioned that a couple of the natives were getting restless and seemed uncomfortable with me being there. Well, one of them has finally snapped and is

Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-18 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 08:33:29PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:52:57AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: technical meeting then you can either video it or watch the repeat on 00:35 on Friday night/Saturday morning.

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:58:00AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: umm ... since Linux accounts (at a guess) for 75% of Perl usauge, thats quite an 'afterthought'. That's irrelevant. ActiveState's business is 90% Windows, so they do Windows first. -- ZenHam heh, yeah, but Aretha could be

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Dave Cross
At 21:39 18/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:30:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm replying! LOL at Greg's post. Greg++ --

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:29:43AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. You know you've been core hacking too long when you read that as "SVtB's set magic". -- Um. There is no David conspiracy. Definitely not. No Kate conspiracy either. No. No, there

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Dave Cross
At 21:39 18/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:30:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm replying! LOL at Greg's post. And now this in a new

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At 21:39 18/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:30:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:20:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: bk:http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=bk Chris: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=chris ROFLMAO! and for your edification, 'chris' just wrote in reply to jns: " And I can program

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:58:00AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: umm ... since Linux accounts (at a guess) for 75% of Perl usauge, thats quite an 'afterthought'. That's irrelevant. ActiveState's business is 90% Windows, so they do Windows first. which is

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:23:34PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I can not see however a place in linux for any perl IDE that doesnt use a standard perl install. simple as that. Then don't buy one. Those who do, will. Isn't the free market great? -- Doubt is a pain too lonely to know that

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:23:34PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I can not see however a place in linux for any perl IDE that doesnt use a standard perl install. simple as that. Then don't buy one. Those who do, will. Isn't the free market great? but I

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:34:30PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: but I should also add that I see anyhting which looks like splintering the nice world of One Big [*nix] Perl [1] into several different incompatible AS Perl on Unix isn't incompatible. -- dngor Every little bit of seaweed kelps.

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Neil Ford
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:20:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: At 22:13 18/04/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At 21:39 18/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:30:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:34:30PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: but I should also add that I see anyhting which looks like splintering the nice world of One Big [*nix] Perl [1] into several different incompatible AS Perl on Unix isn't incompatible. can't

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Neil Ford
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:20:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: I dunno. You try to do a nice thing for people Some of the most fun on the board can be found by reading member's personal profiles: bk:http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=bk Chris:

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Roger Horne
On Wed 18 Apr, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:20:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: bk:http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=bk Chris: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=chris ROFLMAO! and for your edification, 'chris'

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Marcel Grunauer
On Wednesday, April 18, 2001, at 11:55 PM, Neil Ford wrote: One does have to wonder about someone called [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) Kinda say's it all Neil. Apparently 13 years old. Bless. (Apologies if this comes through as HTML mail - i'm trying to get mail set up on OS X, but can't

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:55:20PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: One does have to wonder about someone called [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) Kinda say's it all Yeah, psy-cop I can understand, but what on earth is rograming, and why would he want to do it to psy-cops? -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Neil Ford
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:03:20AM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote: (Apologies if this comes through as HTML mail - i'm trying to get mail set up on OS X, but can't get nmh to work, so I'm using OS X's Mail at the moment. Will hack tools in Perl, though.) Use Mutt :-) You'll have to

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Marcel Grunauer
On Thursday, April 19, 2001, at 12:12 AM, Neil Ford wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:03:20AM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote: (Apologies if this comes through as HTML mail - i'm trying to get mail set up on OS X, but can't get nmh to work, so I'm using OS X's Mail at the moment. Will hack

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:43:09PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:30 PM CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Why would that bother us? Remember, we're all Willow fans here. Heh. A friend of mine

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:43:20PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 5:39 PM Mike Jarvis wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Who's he? Is he that Wesley bloke that I haven't seen yet?

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:43:09PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:30 PM CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Why would that bother us? Remember,

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Marcel Grunauer
On Thursday, April 19, 2001, at 12:36 AM, David H. Adler wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:43:09PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:30 PM CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Why would that bother us?

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:20:45AM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote: get it to work, and not just because of fonts. Or sendmail - I haven't really used it much, just to route my personal mail; I ported exim to OS X last week, it was very easy and runs fine (qmail was a dog). Give me another day

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Marcel Grunauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Likewise. However, to both I'd have to prefer Riley. bah, Angel is the right answer to this variation. Riley is just for those that don't like a challenge! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Mike Jarvis
Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 5:37:22 PM, David H. Adler wrote: Mike Jarvis wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. DHA Clarification: That's Freddie Prinz, Jr. His father was the star of DHA Chico and the Man, a sitcom of, uh, mid-70s vintage, I think. Don't DHA know if

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 5:37:22 PM, David H. Adler wrote: Mike Jarvis wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. DHA Clarification: That's Freddie Prinz, Jr. His father was the star of DHA Chico and the Man, a sitcom of,

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Marcel Grunauer wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Why would that bother us? Remember, we're all Willow fans here. Heh. A friend of mine just asked me if I was upset about this, and my response was similar... Likewise. However, to both I'd

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 5:37:22 PM, David H. Adler wrote: Mike Jarvis wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. DHA Clarification: That's Freddie Prinz, Jr. His father was the